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Old 5th Jan 2020, 16:58
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
I assume this is it the end of 195 era at Flybe or is the last one going to be used as a standby aircraft?
Jethro's site listed G-FBEK as being WFU 04 March 2020 (and G-FBEJ on 14 January 2020) so maybe just being used as the BHX standby aircraft from now on? Would be sensible, really, since if they scheduled it on the network and it went tech and they'd booked 118 passengers on it, there's no other E195 in the fleet to take over from it. So minimum 30 passengers would be left-behind.

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Any further news on the remaining 9 x 175's left.
These are remaining in the fleet; two of the ones that were due to leave had their leases re-negotiated (I believe G-FBJI and G-FBJJ), would assume they'll go through the same cabin refurbishment and repainting as the Q400s although it will be interesting to see where Virgin Connect use them on the network.
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 17:57
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Jethro's site listed G-FBEK as being WFU 04 March 2020 (and G-FBEJ on 14 January 2020) so maybe just being used as the BHX standby aircraft from now on? Would be sensible, really, since if they scheduled it on the network and it went tech and they'd booked 118 passengers on it, there's no other E195 in the fleet to take over from it. So minimum 30 passengers would be left-behind.



These are remaining in the fleet; two of the ones that were due to leave had their leases re-negotiated (I believe G-FBJI and G-FBJJ), would assume they'll go through the same cabin refurbishment and repainting as the Q400s although it will be interesting to see where Virgin Connect use them on the network.
Makes sense if the lease doesn't finish to March.

Interesting information re the 175's with the lease renewals and I hope on better terms!!!

The 175's are split 6 (BHX) and 3 (MAN) at the moment with one arrived back in BHX from Exeter and another from Manchester.

Pete

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Old 5th Jan 2020, 20:42
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Stobart have resumed flying part of the IOM route schedule, with one of the ex-BE ATR72-600's appearing as EI-GPP. It is operating LPL and BHX rotations.

IOM-MAN continues with BE Q400, for the time being.
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 21:46
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
You're right of course but the problem is away they've gone about putting a stop to it. Publish your hand luggage rules, then allow people to ignore them for a long time, then suddenly start applying the rules without any notice and in a haphazard and inconsistent manner - asking for trouble.
Well, they did give notice, the notice was on a disclaimer on the website when you booked a ticket stating clearly their new hand luggage rules (or their old rules will be enforced). People still chose to ignore it then had a sook and a whinge when they realised that Flybe were actually serious. If people chose to ignore it who's fault is that?
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 23:07
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There is a concept spread quite widely in English contract law (ie not criminal law) that if a person wishes to claim rights to something, then they need to be seen to trying in good faith to defend those rights on a regular basis. No, not just 'put in the small print' but actively say 'No' to people when those rights are being breached. Doesn't apply to everything, but one can't allow 9 people to take liberties over your rights and then get upset when the 10th person claims those same liberties
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 01:48
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
I'd have thought it would be Virgin's or maybe a long shot but KLM/AF Flying Blue?
Virgin are launching a cross-brand loyalty scheme called Virgin Red. Seems implausible that Virgin Connect would not be part of it...
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 07:40
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Virgin Red has been about for years
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 15:12
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I'm sorry that the latest announcement leaves many of the ground staff/office workers in a difficult position and uncertain about redundancies. Makes thoughts of slight schedule changes and paint schemes seem unimportant ...
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Originally Posted by ETOPS
I'm sorry that the latest announcement leaves many of the ground staff/office workers in a difficult position and uncertain about redundancies. Makes thoughts of slight schedule changes and paint schemes seem unimportant ...

What is the latest announcement?
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 15:47
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Well it was actually couched the other way - flight crew, cabin staff and engineers will be safe during a period of reductions in head count starting very soon.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 16:26
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What was the latest announcement, nothing in media?
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 17:04
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You would have had to be pretty naive to think that there wouldn't be job losses (especially in head office functions) when you've essentially got 3 airline head offices in Crawley, Exeter and Dublin all to do with Virgin Connect.....
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 21:06
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Originally Posted by GCILover
I was advised by a member of staff at SOU airport last week, that tomorrow is the big announcement day for Virgin Connect, their future plans, additional summer routes etc. Does anyone else know anything further???
Any update on any big announcements?
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 09:26
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I was advised by a member of staff at SOU airport last week, that tomorrow is the big announcement day for Virgin Connect, their future plans, additional summer routes etc. Does anyone else know anything further???
Any update on any big announcements?
It seems not despite the fact that, for example, NQY announced on their FB page a few weeks ago (after some chasing) that 6th Jan was the date that S20 NQY-LHR flights would be released for booking. And having just checked, it appears they still aren't?
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
It seems not despite the fact that, for example, NQY announced on their FB page a few weeks ago (after some chasing) that 6th Jan was the date that S20 NQY-LHR flights would be released for booking. And having just checked, it appears they still aren't?

cant remember if they said 6th or the week of the 6th


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Old 7th Jan 2020, 11:22
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cant remember if they said 6th or the week of the 6th
Checked back and to be fair it did say from the week of the 6th.
Saying that I still think this is very poor from a Customer relationship/comms perspective.
It's not unreasonable that people want to book flights on NQY's most important route after 28th March!

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Old 7th Jan 2020, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
Checked back and to be fair it did say from the week of the 6th.
Saying thay I still think this is very poor from a Customer relationship/comms perspective.
It's not unreasonable that people want to book flights on NQY's most important route after 28th March!

100% with you and iv been right there at the front of the queue bartering both NQY and BE

its quite frankly pathetic.

lets get EIr twice daily to optimize connections via Dublin and that way the messing around with BE at LHR is somewhat mitigated for those wanting to connect onward.


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Old 7th Jan 2020, 14:03
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Originally Posted by lfc84
Virgin Red has been about for years
Currently it is more of a bonus/selling scheme. Virgin Red is the brand for the cross company scheme moving forward and will replace FlyingClub.
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 14:04
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Is this the announcement?

https://ukaviation.news/flybe-to-beg...-office-staff/
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 15:00
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Flybe usually announce their schedule releases on Thursdays; I'd expect to see them released on the 9th.
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