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Its just a planned seasonal reduction, presumably to tie back in with the VS summer routes.
No real need for it anyway with frequent rail route.
Has always been a hit and miss route.
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Whilst Connect Airways bought Flybe cheaply, they’ve already likely invested tens of millions simply to keep it going. This is a business that has failed to make money for a number of years so I imagine any thoughts about re-fleeting in the coming 3/4 years are highly unlikely.
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It's not that bad a drive either using as it does the only bearable part of the M6 through the lovely Lake District with the prospect of a plesant stop at the UK's best motorway services half way up. No laptop out, belts off, let's have look at your shoes mate nonsense either.
I can imagine there being a market for it though for connecting traffic in the future.
I can imagine there being a market for it though for connecting traffic in the future.
I think the jury is out on whether the train is better than the plane.
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Typical train journey Stockport - Glasgow Central is c3h45 with one change.
Pretty close to the time it would take to ho Stockport by train (if very lucky) to MAN or taxi + check in mjn 1 hr before flight + 1 hour flight + travel from GLA to city centre.
Maybe not worth hassle.
Pretty close to the time it would take to ho Stockport by train (if very lucky) to MAN or taxi + check in mjn 1 hr before flight + 1 hour flight + travel from GLA to city centre.
Maybe not worth hassle.
Typical train journey Stockport - Glasgow Central is c3h45 with one change.
Pretty close to the time it would take to ho Stockport by train (if very lucky) to MAN or taxi + check in mjn 1 hr before flight + 1 hour flight + travel from GLA to city centre.
Maybe not worth hassle.
Pretty close to the time it would take to ho Stockport by train (if very lucky) to MAN or taxi + check in mjn 1 hr before flight + 1 hour flight + travel from GLA to city centre.
Maybe not worth hassle.
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Not sure it is that good. Lots of complaints over the summer of people having to stand all the way to/from Scotland due lack of rolling stock, trains curtailed due lack of drivers etc. Constant promises of new trains and additional carriages. If you take Trip Advisor the ratings for TPE are : Excellent 38, Very Good 33, Average 37, Poor 38 & Terrible 168. Maybe they are improving? -
I think the jury is out on whether the train is better than the plane.
I think the jury is out on whether the train is better than the plane.
This, I think, would take care of most of the O&D stuff. As for connections, Glasgow appears to have a fairly mixed picture with routes coming and going but a solid long haul service from Emirates along with KLM and BA. Maybe connection demand isn't there, especially when there are better alternatives to connecting in Manchester which as a connection experience leaves quite a bit to be desired.
Willingness to ditch a route is probably a good sign, given the situation they're in. If the O&D is there, I'm sure Loganair will mop it up.
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However, I don't live on the pavement outside MAN terminal and didn't work right outside GLA Arrivals.
The important thing, for me anyway would be Point to Point Total Time of Journey.
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My money would be on Logan taking it if they have sufficient capacity as it used to be a decent route for them before Flybe turned up. Lower capacity = higher yields (assuming reasonable timings) and the demand should be there given that it's over 3 hours on the train.
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ATR & Colours
On the matter of GLA-MAN going I have been looking at the aircraft requirement (posted on the MAN thread) and I could only get to 46 aircraft required albeit one Monday in November and although that is not the greatest sample it potentiially leaves a host of aircraft not flying come winter and has any leases been terminated early or is this just to stop leaking money?
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The ATR has gone to Dublin tonight under BE flight number
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I completely get about the franchisees fleets being completely separate but I thought I'd read on here at some point that they'd be having some of the FlybeNordic ATRs too???
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Ah yes, this is true. There was something about them taking some of those. Must admit, I'd forgotten about their Scandinavian venture.
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Flybe is owned by Connect Airways of which VS own 30% and DL own nothing. I can imagine the holders of the other 70% simply want to bring stability and a chance of realising their investment back long before thinking about wild expansion plans or the possibility of investing in a new fleet.
Whilst Connect Airways bought Flybe cheaply, they’ve already likely invested tens of millions simply to keep it going. This is a business that has failed to make money for a number of years so I imagine any thoughts about re-fleeting in the coming 3/4 years are highly unlikely.