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It would give IAG a stranglehold on the UK domestic market, eliminate competition at LCY and LHR and be a great feeder network.
Virgin would be another option but I think they have bigger fish to fry.
CityJet? I know they've changed focus but Flybe might be helpful for them.
Which leaves BMI/Loganair which would be delightful. I've posted my thoughts on their spat earlier.
Virgin would be another option but I think they have bigger fish to fry.
CityJet? I know they've changed focus but Flybe might be helpful for them.
Which leaves BMI/Loganair which would be delightful. I've posted my thoughts on their spat earlier.
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I think though if IAG were interested they could make money by operating under the BA branding. The planes are similar in size to the BA Cityflyer ones, albeit, turboprops rather than jets. The could ditch some of the loss making routes and use the planes to expand at London City, whilst keeping the more profitable ones.
The market has changed a lot since BA exited BA Connect. At that time the low cost carriers were a novelty and price alone was the prime focus. Now the novelty has worn off and it is not all about the lowest cost anymore. Some of the customers are willing to pay a bit more for a perceived better service. Many people will have been introduce to flying by low cost carriers, but as they have got a bit older and better off they are willing to pay a bit more. BA can offer a more upmarket image, internationally known brand, a global alliance, a frequent flyer scheme and a much wider marketing platform through the BA website.
An ideal scenario would be a partnership between Stobart and IAG buying flybe, and flying under the BA brand, but making use of Stobart's experience of operating turboprops.
Unfortunately though I just can't see IAG being interested.
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So without Brexit Flybe would be flying high and making lots of money and there I was thinking Flybe has made loses even before anyone had heard of the word Brexit. Of course Flybe’s woes has nothing to do with Flybe management?
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IAG it, rebrand to Aer Lingus Regional, EI register the fleet, switch out the fault plagued E195s with more reliable same type, get a bond away to refinance debt, tax domicile the lot from Ireland to realise aggressive corporate tax regime savings, gives staff security, gives it a good fighting chance to pull it out of the fire. Move all IT onto EI estate, decommission all BE IT, crystallize those IT savings immediately. All M&A 101 basics, need to squeeze minimum 20%8 total cost savings. Almost forgot, hedge fuel via IAG hedge pool.
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Virgin would be another option but I think they have bigger fish to fry.
Bit of an outsider though IMHO, i'd peg Stobart for the takeover. Remember when their bid was rejected earlier in the year because FlyBe though they were being undervalued?...now the company is worth around 1/10th of the price, it would seem like a steal to them
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Can't help but think that the shareholders should be held to account here, they had the chance to save the airline when Stobart came in but they said no and thought that they could do better. Now the company is worth nowhere near what Stobart offered and so they will all be out of pocket and we could see the end of BE. If Stobart do go back in for BE it would be a steal for them however with the state the business is in would Stobart have the time and money to turn things around?
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How strong are Loganair/Bmi Regional? Could they "buy" in the way that BA bought Dan Air, ( e.g. for £5) retaining some E-Jets and crews operating ex BHX, SOU and MAN. BMi could drop the regional and become British Midland once again unless BA hold the rights to that name. Stobart would take over IOM,NQY. LCY would be left to an expanded BA Cityflyer. Easy to pick up some sun routes where viable e.g. SOU and EXT.
VS won't return to domestic flying- they weren't "VS Atlanta" when they dabbled with that. LHR domestic will be BA BA BA again.
VS won't return to domestic flying- they weren't "VS Atlanta" when they dabbled with that. LHR domestic will be BA BA BA again.
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IAG it, rebrand to Aer Lingus Regional
The fact that Stobart have already started flying a couple of EMB's (or are about to) for CFE could be described as interesting.
More likely a pre-pack administration, where the sale is agreed before entering administration, ensuring continuity of service, whilst the creditors are hung out to dry. Either that or a purchase by a bunch of venture capitalist sharks such as Greybull.
Tabs please !
Blaming Brexit ? I thought Flybe were taking a kicking thanks to EU261 and Brexit offered the best chance of becoming exempt. Not so long ago my family had a 5 hour delay on the way home which not only paid for all flights but made me a 4 figure profit. That has to be wrong but thank you Brussels.
Easy's share price is virtually unchanged year on year and they are in the same market so Flybe's excuses are totally bolleaux. Nothing at all to do with paying the over-rated CEO a shed load of "golden hello's" then ?
Easy's share price is virtually unchanged year on year and they are in the same market so Flybe's excuses are totally bolleaux. Nothing at all to do with paying the over-rated CEO a shed load of "golden hello's" then ?