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There is no doubt it is difficult to get a strong return on domestic services when you consider the sheer level of taxes levied. After costs are considered and the taxes there is such a narrow margin on air travel. The trains are going after the same business and they are not taxed remotely in this way.
It is also a bit of an old chestnut to suggest the deal on the embraers is the issue... still... at this stage. They are already disposing of them. Can somebody also tell me how brexit is to blame for the state of affairs, nobody yet knows the full impact of brexit yet. Are there indicators that companies profits are down at this point, am I not correct in saying rusty there are currently positive financial indicators in the UK economy? Time to go down an acmi route, cut the HQ overheads and steal a march on outs like Cityjet and get in there, and bring their best or top 15 routes as bargaining power, just like WX did with EI on LCY route...supporting the network carriers and removing a world of pain for them...
Just my opinions above...
It is also a bit of an old chestnut to suggest the deal on the embraers is the issue... still... at this stage. They are already disposing of them. Can somebody also tell me how brexit is to blame for the state of affairs, nobody yet knows the full impact of brexit yet. Are there indicators that companies profits are down at this point, am I not correct in saying rusty there are currently positive financial indicators in the UK economy? Time to go down an acmi route, cut the HQ overheads and steal a march on outs like Cityjet and get in there, and bring their best or top 15 routes as bargaining power, just like WX did with EI on LCY route...supporting the network carriers and removing a world of pain for them...
Just my opinions above...
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Brexit
Brexit isn’t directly to blame although as many airlines pay for fuel and parts (and in some cases maintainance costs, leases, etc) in US dollars, Stirling’s fall in value since the referendum has undoubtedly added a significant amount to outgoings.
Various speculation about flight disruption come March 29th is almost certain to have impacted on forward bookings too I’d guess.
Various speculation about flight disruption come March 29th is almost certain to have impacted on forward bookings too I’d guess.
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Time to go down an acmi route, cut the HQ overheads and steal a march on outs like Cityjet and get in there, and bring their best or top 15 routes as bargaining power, just like WX did with EI on LCY route...supporting the network carriers and removing a world of pain for them...
Just my opinions above...
Just my opinions above...
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good question PDXCWL45,
if you compare with the US this side of the Atlantic is untapped by comparison. They need to prospect with big carriers just as Cityjet have, who expected Cityjet to sign up SAS, Brussels Airlines, KLM, Aer Lingus, Air France etc. I don't see any opportunity with easyJet or locos.
Focus on the network carriers ... Flybe have plenty of advantages over other airlines to compete in this space.
if you compare with the US this side of the Atlantic is untapped by comparison. They need to prospect with big carriers just as Cityjet have, who expected Cityjet to sign up SAS, Brussels Airlines, KLM, Aer Lingus, Air France etc. I don't see any opportunity with easyJet or locos.
Focus on the network carriers ... Flybe have plenty of advantages over other airlines to compete in this space.
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good question PDXCWL45,
if you compare with the US this side of the Atlantic is untapped by comparison. They need to prospect with big carriers just as Cityjet have, who expected Cityjet to sign up SAS, Brussels Airlines, KLM, Aer Lingus, Air France etc. I don't see any opportunity with easyJet or locos.
Focus on the network carriers ... Flybe have plenty of advantages over other airlines to compete in this space.
if you compare with the US this side of the Atlantic is untapped by comparison. They need to prospect with big carriers just as Cityjet have, who expected Cityjet to sign up SAS, Brussels Airlines, KLM, Aer Lingus, Air France etc. I don't see any opportunity with easyJet or locos.
Focus on the network carriers ... Flybe have plenty of advantages over other airlines to compete in this space.
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The Cobalt news will have spooked institutional investors for sure and if another airline goes..... then it will be board room busy time....
She needs to do an urgent hatchet job that whilst unfortunate for all involved is the only way to survive... current fleet, bases, route network, avg yield per passenger, load factor, hedging position and market uncertainties require a steady hand on the tiller that knows how to win a war!
Fluffy words about recovering are fine until its too late - actions speaks louder than words..
She needs to do an urgent hatchet job that whilst unfortunate for all involved is the only way to survive... current fleet, bases, route network, avg yield per passenger, load factor, hedging position and market uncertainties require a steady hand on the tiller that knows how to win a war!
Fluffy words about recovering are fine until its too late - actions speaks louder than words..
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Stobart franchise appears to continue after March 19
A new Stobart operated route from southend to newquay has been announced today.
The following website (which is typically reliable) suggests that a number of routes will be continued after March 19:
Latest flight alerts sent by us
It should be only a matter of time that these appear in the booking engine.
We should expect a formal announcement soon.
The following website (which is typically reliable) suggests that a number of routes will be continued after March 19:
Latest flight alerts sent by us
It should be only a matter of time that these appear in the booking engine.
We should expect a formal announcement soon.
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A new Stobart operated route from southend to newquay has been announced today.
The following website (which is typically reliable) suggests that a number of routes will be continued after March 19:
Latest flight alerts sent by us
It should be only a matter of time that these appear in the booking engine.
We should expect a formal announcement soon.
The following website (which is typically reliable) suggests that a number of routes will be continued after March 19:
Latest flight alerts sent by us
It should be only a matter of time that these appear in the booking engine.
We should expect a formal announcement soon.
A new Stobart operated route from southend to newquay has been announced today.
The following website (which is typically reliable) suggests that a number of routes will be continued after March 19:
Latest flight alerts sent by us
It should be only a matter of time that these appear in the booking engine.
We should expect a formal announcement soon.
The following website (which is typically reliable) suggests that a number of routes will be continued after March 19:
Latest flight alerts sent by us
It should be only a matter of time that these appear in the booking engine.
We should expect a formal announcement soon.
The lowcostroutes.com website linked to above has the following details
but also has this - with no mention of Southend to Newquay...
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the July 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Rennes.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the July 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Dubrovnik.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the March 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Manchester.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the June 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Jersey.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the September 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Aberdeen
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the July 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Dubrovnik.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the March 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Manchester.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the June 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Jersey.
On 2018-10-18 03:06, Flybe released the September 2019 flight schedule from London Southend to Aberdeen
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Swift action may mean a change of leadership to steady investor confidence and that ANY plan will have substance behind it and be achievable and deliverable for the good of the shareholders... They will be circling for casualties that they can blame for losses... it's a shi$$y world we live in but they are faceless and don't really care about personalities, they just want an ROI for the institutions they have sold the stock for and anyone's head is better than theirs!
Does this uncertainty with regard to the future of FlyBE make pilots want to jump ship?
Would FlyBE miss them as at this stage it looks like FlyBE is better off retrenching to its strongest routes?
Would FlyBE miss them as at this stage it looks like FlyBE is better off retrenching to its strongest routes?
Certainly, a few have "jumped" lately. I don't know if this is because of the company's financial state, or not. TUI seems to have been particularly favoured.
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I wonder if flyBe can actually shrink to profitability? I don't think any airline has successfully done that in history. I agree with statements that flyBe needs to concentrate on 'core' routes - what are these though? Although markets like MAN and BHX are mentioned, are they really making money flying a 76 seat jet to MXP when easyJet are on the same route and FR are flying up to twice daily to Bergamo. It might be better to serve the smaller regional airports - if you can avoid competing with yourself.
In any case flyBe have long had a problem competing with peers. They couldn't do it at Gatwick, have had a few stabs a LCY and are also at LHR. If flyBe want to improve the per-seat costs of the Q400 fleet they could install an extra 6-8 seats, but fundamentally flyBe needs to decide what kind of airline it wants to be and to stick with it. "Faster than Road or Rail" seemed a good idea and implied that although flyBe may be more expensive than other modes, flying would be quicker - maybe.
In any case flyBe have long had a problem competing with peers. They couldn't do it at Gatwick, have had a few stabs a LCY and are also at LHR. If flyBe want to improve the per-seat costs of the Q400 fleet they could install an extra 6-8 seats, but fundamentally flyBe needs to decide what kind of airline it wants to be and to stick with it. "Faster than Road or Rail" seemed a good idea and implied that although flyBe may be more expensive than other modes, flying would be quicker - maybe.
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There are ongoing recent rumours that Flybe are set to announce 3 new routes from City of Derry Airport in N.Ireland to Manchester Birmingham and Stansted.