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mik will be back...once the price is right and/or he/she needs to get back on a Sat afternoon or Sun morning (when LCY is shut) or over some bank holidays when it's shut as well he/she'll very quietly make a cheeky reservation and not tell anyone...
I call it Ryanair syndrome....
I call it Ryanair syndrome....
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Also interesting to note that they've re-stated last years £19m loss to a massive £48m. That's quite a re-statement!!
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I fly a lot with my business every month. Flybe has been worst performer of all the flights I take each month. So on a average probability my experiences with them on the Dublin route haven’t been great.
I have rarely and I mean very rarely had any problems with BA or Aer Lingus or Cityjet (or dare I say it even Ryanair) on a London- Dublin route.
With the extremely rare exception due to wx, in general all of these carriers run a well organised reliable service.
Regrettably for Flybe that has not consistently been the case at all and any of their various issues on the route are down to a/c tech or crew issues or some other technical ops issues but not wx related issue.
Anyway, my business spends considerable costs on flights but afraid those travel expenses will now not include Flybe in the list of carriers to use. I can’t run a business and get to meetings if we can’t trust a carrier to deliver good reliable services.
I pull no punches and make no apologies for it - that’s business in a consumer lead world and my business goes with whatever carriers help our business operate effectively we are not precious about any airline.
I have rarely and I mean very rarely had any problems with BA or Aer Lingus or Cityjet (or dare I say it even Ryanair) on a London- Dublin route.
With the extremely rare exception due to wx, in general all of these carriers run a well organised reliable service.
Regrettably for Flybe that has not consistently been the case at all and any of their various issues on the route are down to a/c tech or crew issues or some other technical ops issues but not wx related issue.
Anyway, my business spends considerable costs on flights but afraid those travel expenses will now not include Flybe in the list of carriers to use. I can’t run a business and get to meetings if we can’t trust a carrier to deliver good reliable services.
I pull no punches and make no apologies for it - that’s business in a consumer lead world and my business goes with whatever carriers help our business operate effectively we are not precious about any airline.
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Welcome to consumerism, baby! I’ll take your comment as a compliment. Next?!
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Does anyone know if they have stopped painting their aircraft into the new scheme? Still plenty of q400s in the old scheme, not to mention all the 175s. Some q400s are still in the Brussels airways scheme as well. Rebrand was years ago wasn’t it? It’s not like they have any new aircraft on order either.
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Does anyone know if they have stopped painting their aircraft into the new scheme? Still plenty of q400s in the old scheme, not to mention all the 175s. Some q400s are still in the Brussels airways scheme as well. Rebrand was years ago wasn’t it? It’s not like they have any new aircraft on order either.
According to Jethro's the two in Brussels Airlines Colours are to leave the fleet in the not too distant future so that's why those haven't been painted.
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I do believe the five handback aircraft due this year (including both Brussels examples) are to be retained a little longer.
I have flown from MAN to NQY return once a year for the last three years on business with BE. Not one of the six flights has been on time. This week the MAN - NQY sector (both yesterday and today) were delayed because the equipment arrived late from AMS. If this is a regular occurance, then acknowlege it in the timetable. No point getting to the airport in good time only to find you are sitting in a stupidly busy and cramped Terminal 3 at MAN or a shed like NQY with nothing to do.
It is a pity there is no choice on this route and that driving is too long. At least the Q400 are perfectly adequate for the length of route. The difference in time between the E-series and the Q400 cannot be more than five minutes.
It is a pity there is no choice on this route and that driving is too long. At least the Q400 are perfectly adequate for the length of route. The difference in time between the E-series and the Q400 cannot be more than five minutes.
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Had to forgo my usual direct CDG for a flybe via BHX on the way out and MAN on the way back. Perfectly acceptable flights and within normal punctuality parameters +/- 15 minutes. I’ll not rush to experience Manchester again in a hurry though.
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It's funny how the airline industry has conditioned us to accept that 15 minutes is an acceptable delay.
Imagine being 15 minutes late to give someone a lift, or 15 minutes late for an interview. They wouldn't write it off as 'normal punctuality' regardless of excuses.
Imagine being 15 minutes late to give someone a lift, or 15 minutes late for an interview. They wouldn't write it off as 'normal punctuality' regardless of excuses.
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You are quite correct. Pax generally seem happy with delays of less than 30 minutes these days. My flight AMS-SEN was 35 minutes late last night (EZY) so I was grumpy!
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Well if you live near London and use the M25 people are more forgiving of minor delays because it’s an unknown as to what experience you will have on it. Much like the taxi at busy airports or the heavily congested airways
Also if I was driving I could leave early to allow more time. If a flight left early without all passengers all hell would break loose.
So having a buffer makes sense.
Also if I was driving I could leave early to allow more time. If a flight left early without all passengers all hell would break loose.
So having a buffer makes sense.
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or 15 minutes late for check in or the gate ?
that's what really annoys me is the double standards !
late is late (not being within 15 minutes) or padding out the schedule for that matter !
that's what really annoys me is the double standards !
late is late (not being within 15 minutes) or padding out the schedule for that matter !
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Likewise at the gate if the flight waited for everyone that was 15 mins late the doors couldn’t be closed up, pushback clearance request would be delayed and then your flight wouldn’t get away on time anyway.
Passengers are actually in my opinion becoming more and more demanding with very little awareness or consideration to how challenging it is to fly a plane now a days. Not just cost, but it’s so heavily congested now if not on the ground in the air. It is hard to employ people who want to work in the airport. Pressure for on time performance is immense because of compensation culture. Countries around the UK strike whenever they feel like it with France continuing to be the worse. Technical issues happen when aircraft are flown like a bus service - short flights with maybe 5-10 landings or takes offs will ultimately be prone to more potential for tech issues compared to a plane that takes off just twice in a day. All the mechanical movements that take place etc.
If you drive your car around the city all day long changing gear, slowing down, speeding up, turning many corners etc your car will have more natural wear and tear vs doing a single 3 hour motorway trip in a straight line at a more regular speed.
Its a debate that will never be agreed because of expectations and compensation. I blame low cost airlines and the USA compensation culture for it.
Long delays happen and it’s tough, we need to get over ourselves when there are more serious things going on in the world. However what is so important and I fully agree is that how they are handled is key.
15 minute delay though, I wouldn’t even care or probably notice. 35 minute delay if it is acknowledged with a reason then I wouldn’t care. I plan my travel with buffers even when on business to account for these sort of things. Have flown for so many years and so many times I am just not bothered by it anymore.