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Old 25th Oct 2020, 09:13
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
I've raised eyebrows about data like this coming out of consultancies and been shot down by others for doing so, usually by other "consultants".
Consultants? No need for bad language so early on a Sunday...
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 22:57
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Do we think EXT based airline? Can't see it myself. My cash is on BHX.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 00:13
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Originally Posted by Jamie2009 View Post
Do we think EXT based airline? Can't see it myself. My cash is on BHX.
No, likely some secondary UK hub op from MAN or BHX. Probably MAN. The regional British Isles routes well covered now by the other airlines who picked up the scraps left that actually made money.

Madness it's even being considered. MAN basically had this setup before with Thomas Cook and the original Flybe codesharing. That went well.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 19:17
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I agree that MAN is most likely from the outset.. then perhaps a planned opening of a couple of others as v2.0 finds it feet. BHX, SOU would make sense as well. All of this is moot until it happens.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 20:45
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Discussing where they might have bases is surely putting the cart before the horse. I would be very surprised if this resurrection takes place at all.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 11:44
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Is there even enough demand for any of this ? Blue Island, Eastern. Loganair, Easyjet on some domestic route too....and now a Flybe from the Phoenix flames.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 15:48
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10 View Post
Is there even enough demand for any of this ? Blue Island, Eastern. Loganair, Easyjet on some domestic route too....and now a Flybe from the Phoenix flames.
I imagine that depends to some extent of which of those airlines are still around by the time "FlyBe - Rise of the Phoenix" hits an airport near you. I don't imagine any of them are finding revenue streams to equal their outgoings at the moment.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 19:23
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Is there even enough demand for any of this ?
Of course there isn't now, but their might be in 6 months - we live in hope!
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 19:44
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Originally Posted by Wycombe View Post
Of course there isn't now, but their might be in 6 months - we live in hope!
This mob isn't an inexperienced, two bit, joke outfit and won't have bought Flybe to fly a handful of DASH around to make a couple of quid. They they will have spied a real opportunity and have big plans - it will be worth their while. I doubt they will have any scruples about going after the competition if necessary to grow the value of the business. Don't forget they've got cash and thats what operating airlines are bleeding at the moment.

I haven't seen any airlines comment on the sale of Flybe.... bet they're somewhat apprehensive.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 21:32
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Or perhaps the other airlines just see it for what it is - a play to realise some value from the LHR and AMS slots by holding on to them during thin times to sell them when the market picks up.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 23:34
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I will be very interested to see whether they can hang on to the slots. Personally I doubt it.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 13:17
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Bet the UK airlines are looking forward to the upcoming lockdown - I do feel sorry for them.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 14:11
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Maybe they should adopt the Flybe business model.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 18:33
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Originally Posted by Jamie2009 View Post
Bet the UK airlines are looking forward to the upcoming lockdown - I do feel sorry for them.
I doubt any business is looking forward to the lockdown, it will as has the whole period have a huge impact on the viability of business and will no doubt make another huge blow to business travel. Flybe didnt work in the old world and will have to try very hard to work in the new one. Eastern has been struggling for passenger numbers flying the 'popular' routes. Its only the likes of Aurigny, Blue Islands and Loganair who have managed to carry any decent number of Pax and thats simply down to the NEED to fly, boating to an Island isn't so fun!

Good luck to Flybe Mrk2 but lets face it, they will struggle!
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 20:04
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Originally Posted by wanna View Post
I doubt any business is looking forward to the lockdown, it will as has the whole period have a huge impact on the viability of business and will no doubt make another huge blow to business travel. Flybe didnt work in the old world and will have to try very hard to work in the new one. Eastern has been struggling for passenger numbers flying the 'popular' routes. Its only the likes of Aurigny, Blue Islands and Loganair who have managed to carry any decent number of Pax and thats simply down to the NEED to fly, boating to an Island isn't so fun!

Good luck to Flybe Mrk2 but lets face it, they will struggle!
Sadly it is going to be testing time for all airlines over the winter period.

Yes that Loganair, Blue Islands and BA have Codeshare agreement which helps passenger numbers.
The one way could work in helping Flybe work is having a codeshare agreement with Eastern, Aurigny and Virgin.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 21:56
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Originally Posted by Jamie2009 View Post
This mob isn't an inexperienced, two bit, joke outfit and won't have bought Flybe to fly a handful of DASH around to make a couple of quid. They they will have spied a real opportunity and have big plans - it will be worth their while. I doubt they will have any scruples about going after the competition if necessary to grow the value of the business. Don't forget they've got cash and thats what operating airlines are bleeding at the moment.

I haven't seen any airlines comment on the sale of Flybe.... bet they're somewhat apprehensive.
oh please.... i'll believe this when I see it
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 01:32
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Whatever happens, let’s hope they rebrand... ‘flybe.’ has always sucked...
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Old 3rd Nov 2020, 01:27
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I imagine that depends to some extent of which of those airlines are still around by the time "FlyBe - Rise of the Phoenix" hits an airport near you. I don't imagine any of them are finding revenue streams to equal their outgoings at the moment.
Whatever happens, let’s hope they rebrand... ‘flybe.’ has always sucked...

For those of you looking for a different name, what about Phoenix Airways

You know it makes sense
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Old 3rd Nov 2020, 06:48
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Phoenix Airways ....Tongue-in-cheek suggestion absolutely...(probably)

The runes would not read well...

Phoenix Airways inter-Caribbean airline based Saint Kitts & in March`15 the company`s CEO arrested by the Barbados Fraud Squad.

Phoenix Airways a short lived South African LCC.

Phoenix Airways a short lived seventies Swiss single B707 operator.




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Old 3rd Nov 2020, 06:52
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post

Phoenix Airways a short lived seventies Swiss single B707 operator.
also had B.1-11's . Always thought it was a strange name for any company, we cocked up last time but this time we are going to be really good!
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