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Old 5th Oct 2020, 15:51
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Looks like Q400 G-JEDM made its way (slowly) from EXT to ZQW (Zweibrucken) today.

Not above FL090 or about 220kts at any point. Took about 2.5hrs.

Speculation on social media that it was a gear-down ferry?
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 16:28
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Originally Posted by Wycombe View Post
Looks like Q400 G-JEDM made its way (slowly) from EXT to ZQW (Zweibrucken) today.

Not above FL090 or about 220kts at any point. Took about 2.5hrs.

Speculation on social media that it was a gear-down ferry?
Looks like a non pressurized flight
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 16:38
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Originally Posted by Wycombe View Post
Looks like Q400 G-JEDM made its way (slowly) from EXT to ZQW (Zweibrucken) today.

Not above FL090 or about 220kts at any point. Took about 2.5hrs.

Speculation on social media that it was a gear-down ferry?
Gear down ferry due to a technical issue that occured a few months prior to the collapse in March. Rumours back then suggested it would be scrapped. Looks like some temporary work has been carried out to get it out of Exeter.

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Old 5th Oct 2020, 18:05
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Gear down ferry due to a technical issue that occured a few months prior to the collapse in March. Rumours back then suggested it would be scrapped
Thanks for confirming. Looks like about the oldest left in the fleet (that was) at 17-18 years.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 06:19
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G-JEDM flew gear down to Saarbrucken.
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Old 13th Oct 2020, 18:22
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https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-ecog#25c28bb7

G-ECOG has now flown to NRN.
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Old 13th Oct 2020, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Airbus123 View Post
Worth noting that all Flybe aircraft have now left the UK...
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 10:55
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Still in administration which may be extended, no planes and no staff other than the retained ones in key positions DFO, HOCT etc..... Assets being sold off too.
The dispute with IAG over the Heathrow slots rumbling on and the EU have stated they should belong to Flybe and apparently the Connect lot don't automatically have first dibs if they do stay with the company.

The company is still going and spending a lot less cash than those flying empty planes around. Unlikely but a resurrection of some sort could happen.
I'd feel sorry for Stobart, Logan, Easy and Eastern though as they struggle on during the crisis and then Flybe starts with cheap planes and crews and competes hard against them.

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Old 14th Oct 2020, 13:43
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Heard various rumours recently from numerous sources, that Flybe is to make a comeback. Just have to see what happens....
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 13:45
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My understanding is that ERJ195 G-FBEG, G-FBEH, G-FBEI, G-FBEJ and OY-GDD are still at NWI.

I was at NWI at the end of August and saw all of them. OY-GDD is still marked as G-FBEK.

Are you sure that they have now left the UK

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Old 14th Oct 2020, 13:57
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My understanding is that ERJ195 G-FBEG, G-FBEH, G-FBEI, G-FBEJ and OY-GDD are still at NWI.

I was at NWI at the end of August and saw all of them. OY-GDD is still marked as G-FBEK.

Are you sure that they have now left the UK
When passing through MAN 2 weeks ago there was still a Dash8 on the ground there parked at a stand too. Unless that's moved now?
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 14:13
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Originally Posted by Whispering Giant View Post
Heard various rumours recently from numerous sources, that Flybe is to make a comeback. Just have to see what happens....
Yeah there's been loads of rumours, can't see anything happening until there's light at the end of the covid tunnel so defo a waiting game.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 14:15
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When passing through MAN 2 weeks ago there was still a Dash8 on the ground there parked at a stand too. Unless that's moved now?
G-KKEV departed on the 5th October.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 16:58
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Flybe Dash 8

There are no ex-Flybe Dash 8ís left in the UK now.
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https://news.sky.com/story/former-flybe-shareholder-cyrus-in-talks-about-reviving-collapsed-regional-airline-12106341

A development or just hot air?

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"A number of former Flybe executives are understood to be involved in the proposed relaunch" = no chance of happening then!
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How is it possible that Flybe`s administrators have retained the company`s operating licence & slots?
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How is it possible that Flybe`s administrators have retained the company`s operating licence & slots?
https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-ind...ing-decisions/

Operating and Route Licences of Flybe Limited: CAA decision 1/2020 has been withdrawn.

The Operating and Route Licences of Flybe Limited: CAA decision 1/2020 has been withdrawn due to the amendment to EU Regulation 1008/2008 dated 28 May 2020 which retrospectively amends that Regulation.
https://assets.ey.com/content/dam/ey...ptember-20.pdf

As referenced in the Proposals, the Joint Administrators appealed the CAA Decision to the Secretary
of State for Transport, the Rt Hon Grant Shapps MP, on 30 April 2020. However, during the course of
that appeal process, the relevant EU legislation, namely EC Regulation No 1008/2008, was
amended by Regulation (EU) 2020/969, such that the relevant threshold test for assessing the
suspension or revocation of the Company’s OL was changed to account for the impact of the
COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic on the aviation industry. The Joint Administrators successfully
argued that the CAA’s decision to revoke the Company’s OL should therefore be withdrawn and a
fresh assessment made under the new test in the amended legislation.

As a result, on 9 July 2020, the CAA withdrew its decision to revoke the Company’s OL, subject to
certain undertakings from the Joint Administrators to, amongst others, not take bookings or sell
tickets for flights without the CAA having confirmed the undertakings’ release, and the Company has
therefore retained its OL. The Joint Administrators subsequently withdrew their appeal to the
Secretary of State.

Crucially, the Company’s retention of its OL has in turn so far enabled the Company to retain its right
to hold its slots at those airports in which it operated, with the exception of its slots at London
Heathrow which are subject to ongoing dispute with IAG.
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Old 17th Oct 2020, 20:18
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Almost as if that question was anticipated.

How is it possible that an "entity" can preserve own & manage such perishable commodities.

Who would be providing the necessary proof that the "entity" can provide & meet all required operating stipulations from the CAA at the present time.

Always considered to be issued an AOC an airline required a reporting & answerable Chief Pilot accepted by the CAA..Do the Administrators then have a Chief Pilot?

The slot retaining is quite plainly "bonkers".
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