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Old 9th Jan 2020, 18:15
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BA did actually operate LGW-NQY a few years back, but it didn’t last long. 2x 319’s isn’t that different to 4x DH8’s - and there is nothing stopping BA operating a PSO route.
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Old 9th Jan 2020, 19:57
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I've operated the NQY-SEN route on the Dash before quite a significant number of times and there were no issues with holding or extended routing. At the time Flybe were operating into LGW and the SEN flights were not much longer.
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Old 9th Jan 2020, 21:54
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....it'll be a bit slower on an ATR though than your speedy Dash!
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Old 9th Jan 2020, 22:54
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Well not really, if pilots operate the Dash to SOPs then they'll be flying fuel efficiency and cost index speeds, these speeds equate to not much faster than the ATR, maybe just in the climb.
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BA did actually operate LGW-NQY a few years back, but it didn’t last long. 2x 319’s isn’t that different to 4x DH8’s - and there is nothing stopping BA operating a PSO route.
The point of the PSO is to promote access, so frequency is more important than the total number of seats.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
The point of the PSO is to promote access, so frequency is more important than the total number of seats.

quite.

but I don’t think that there’s anything saying all four rotations under the pso have to go into the same airport ?


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Old 10th Jan 2020, 14:57
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
Well not really, if pilots operate the Dash to SOPs then they'll be flying fuel efficiency and cost index speeds, these speeds equate to not much faster than the ATR, maybe just in the climb.
They seem to add 10 minutes onto the published flight time when the ATR is operating the IOM to BHX route rather than the Q400, mind you we were spoilt last summer having the 175 on the route

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Old 10th Jan 2020, 15:08
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
Well not really, if pilots operate the Dash to SOPs then they'll be flying fuel efficiency and cost index speeds, these speeds equate to not much faster than the ATR, maybe just in the climb.
The Dash is normally filed for around 50kts faster than the ATR on any flight plans.
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Old 10th Jan 2020, 21:30
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When I was a captain on the Dash 8 we were filed at cost index speed (usually around 210kts). I have a photo of an old plog right here on my phone.
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Old 11th Jan 2020, 05:13
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
When I was a captain on the Dash 8 we were filed at cost index speed (usually around 210kts). I have a photo of an old plog right here on my phone.
COI was always based on the fuel price in MAN which depended on how much fuel u uplifted elsewhere if it was cheaper or more expensive. Weirdly BHD was cheaper a lot of the year. When we did the BHD-EXT-CDG we would regularly get crew take 4500kgs to do all 4 sectors
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 21:34
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Sky News reporting flyBe is trying to secure a rescue deal to 'prevent its collapse'.
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 21:44
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
Sky News reporting flyBe is trying to secure a rescue deal to 'prevent its collapse'.
link to article: https://news.sky.com/story/regional-...lapse-11907407
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 21:52
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Yikes... though if you were going to predict anyone now to go under... Had thought slightly more stable now with VS.
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:02
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Begs the questions why on earth would VS/Stobart get involved in the first place. Surely they would've had vision of the potential for this to happen. Unless the plan to pick the carcass for their own benefit? It was always too much for VS to solely make use of for connectivity.
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:04
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:07
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Is Flybe now controlled by the Connect Consortium or is it still controlled economically wise by Flybe itself?
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:09
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Very strange unless there is more to this let flybe to go in to administration and stobart/vs pickup what they want from it, as what happed to bmi regional and loganair
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:18
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Originally Posted by flyerguy
Is Flybe now controlled by the Connect Consortium or is it still controlled economically wise by Flybe itself?
I believe it is now controlled by the Connect Consortium. I think the consortium bought the assets of Flybe, rather than the company Flybe plc as was originally planned. Though, they couldn't exercise any management control over Flybe until the takeover was approved by the European Commission.

https://connect-airways.com/gb/home.html

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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:40
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I know a lot of staff at Flybe will be watching but let’s just hope something can be done for them.
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It’s controlled by the consortium now. They put a Virgin executive in charge and Christine Ourmieres Widener left.

My two thoughts are: could the private equity firm which went in, and owns the largest stake, now have cold feet and trying to stall the investment by making the conditions tougher for Flybe to meet. Or, they want to let it go under, allowing them to pick the decent parts and escape paying redundancies and lease termination clauses.

If Flybe goes under, it does a lot of damage to Virgin’s claims to want to be the 2nd flag carrier and to get the slots on any new runway at LHR.
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