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there seems there are lot of changes going on. how did Cardiff survive all the cuts? was a deal done? what happened to Doncaster, it seemed some routes were saved then lost? are there more rumoured changes ie increases anywhere? when do the jets actually go? are all the q400s staying?=left
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there seems there are lot of changes going on. how did Cardiff survive all the cuts? was a deal done? what happened to Doncaster, it seemed some routes were saved then lost? are there more rumoured changes ie increases anywhere? when do the jets actually go? are all the q400s staying?
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Maybe the routes that will be left are profitable, especially on the Q400!
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there seems there are lot of changes going on. how did Cardiff survive all the cuts? was a deal done? what happened to Doncaster, it seemed some routes were saved then lost? are there more rumoured changes ie increases anywhere? when do the jets actually go? are all the q400s staying?
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FAO was up to 4 or 5 weekly at it's peak, even with FR on the route, and there was talk that FCO, VCE and VRN were doing well, but all ideal for the E-jet, not so on the Q400 even though it has been done elsewhere.
Under project Blackbird, it's likely the Welsh Government decided what routes it wanted to increase the route profile and connectivity from CWL. Remove the E-jets and you're left with the domestic routes. EDI/BHD/DUB/CDG have always done well from CWL and have gradually increased since BE returned to the airport under Blackbird. I wouldn't be surprised though if another deal has been done by the Airport to keep the routes, as the frequencies have been increased. Loganair has come in on CWL-GLA as BE dropped it.
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Anyone from Flybe clarify what is happening at BHX.
We know the press articles clearly mention the focus on Manchester and Heathrow and gradually the axe has fallen on Doncaster and Cardiff and a couple of Manchester routes (TLS & MXP).
However today confusion reigns at the BHX winter schedule with Milan MXP, Berlin TXL. Lyon, Hamburg and Hanover removed from sale for winter except Belin Milan and Lyon are showing again from late February.
Rumours suggested some reductions but with 4 weeks to go to the winter schedule this seems a very late change and then to reinstate some of routes which are hardly seasonal at BHX.
Is it an IT glitch or they are really going seasonable?
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We know the press articles clearly mention the focus on Manchester and Heathrow and gradually the axe has fallen on Doncaster and Cardiff and a couple of Manchester routes (TLS & MXP).
However today confusion reigns at the BHX winter schedule with Milan MXP, Berlin TXL. Lyon, Hamburg and Hanover removed from sale for winter except Belin Milan and Lyon are showing again from late February.
Rumours suggested some reductions but with 4 weeks to go to the winter schedule this seems a very late change and then to reinstate some of routes which are hardly seasonal at BHX.
Is it an IT glitch or they are really going seasonable?
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I think the removal of the EMB195 from service is driving a lot of this. The loads on a destination like Milan would suggest profits are there to be made but maybe not with the Q400. Coupled with the clearly stated focus on feeding VS Longhaul flights I would guess non core bases will see reductions.
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I think the removal of the EMB195 from service is driving a lot of this. The loads on a destination like Milan would suggest profits are there to be made but maybe not with the Q400. Coupled with the clearly stated focus on feeding VS Longhaul flights I would guess non core bases will see reductions.
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With Easy starting EDI & GLA it wouldn't surprise me if they also pick TXL and MXP, possibly others at a later date. I remember when Maersk filled a 737 on those routes and did well. How times have changed.
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Won't this limit their route destinations going forward. With only a few jets in service this really limits their scope going further a field in Europe. Are they going to concentrate on flying to closer destinations in UK, France, Netherlands & Ireland?
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[/QUOTE] Are they going to concentrate on flying to closer destinations in UK, France, Netherlands & Ireland?[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine that is what there plan is. Too concentrate their route network so it suits the Q400 with routes up to a max of 90 minutes flying time and mostly the main UK and near Europe destinations like Scotland to the rest of the UK and as well Paris and Amsterdam and Dusseldorf
I'd imagine that is what there plan is. Too concentrate their route network so it suits the Q400 with routes up to a max of 90 minutes flying time and mostly the main UK and near Europe destinations like Scotland to the rest of the UK and as well Paris and Amsterdam and Dusseldorf
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No Flybe dropped Gatwick in favour of Heathrow when slots became available on loan
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Just tried to book a LCY-DUS flight for November and BE no longer bookable - another route gone? That would make DUS going down from five BE destinations (BHX, MAN, LBA, SOU, LCY) to just two.
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Not so they have only just moved off the Newquay service which now goes to Heathrow the others yes that was years ago
It does look like LCY-DUS has also gone. This is turning into a fairly major network change.
