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Current thinking is that there may well be a reduction on CDG & AMS routes due to EU competition rulings.
I suspect the reduction of the EJets is the start of a swing away from European routes to more domestic, even the possibility of more London (LHR & LGW) routes, if the slots can be found.
I suspect the reduction of the EJets is the start of a swing away from European routes to more domestic, even the possibility of more London (LHR & LGW) routes, if the slots can be found.
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The official stance from the company regarding fleet reduction is the hand back of the 6 195s, 4 x 175s are to be handed back and the 4 175s on order will be/have been cancelled.
My personal opinion is within 18 months there will be no ejets within Flybe.
My personal opinion is within 18 months there will be no ejets within Flybe.
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I can only see BHX and MAN housing the remaining 7 E175's of which 3 will be used on the CDG if the arrangement with Air France continues and as they are more inter-linked *(Virgin-Delta-Skyteam) there is a chance it will.
The others will be used on BHX & MAN MXP if these routes remain and perhaps BHX-STR TXL and again if these routes remain although these are often Dash 8's as well these days.
This brings me on to six-sixty's excellent post and the only minor point I have to add is that BHX-BHD is only a 175 on a Saturday and it is to get the aircraft there to fly BHD-SZG or INN (can't remember which one), the more perplexing use of the 175's is the regular MAN-NQY, MAN-SOU and MAN-BHD. The jets at BHX in the main do operate routes with decent business take-up or are a little longer than the norm or the extra seats are filled such as MXP, STR, TXL, LYS, AMS etc. If you see one in the week on domestic it is usually covering for the Dash which gain Six Sixty is spot on.
Most at BHX seem to be thinking that MXP, STR, TXL, HAM, HAJ, LYS, DUS might not be around in 12 months and also expecting changes on CDG and AMS.
Pete
The others will be used on BHX & MAN MXP if these routes remain and perhaps BHX-STR TXL and again if these routes remain although these are often Dash 8's as well these days.
This brings me on to six-sixty's excellent post and the only minor point I have to add is that BHX-BHD is only a 175 on a Saturday and it is to get the aircraft there to fly BHD-SZG or INN (can't remember which one), the more perplexing use of the 175's is the regular MAN-NQY, MAN-SOU and MAN-BHD. The jets at BHX in the main do operate routes with decent business take-up or are a little longer than the norm or the extra seats are filled such as MXP, STR, TXL, LYS, AMS etc. If you see one in the week on domestic it is usually covering for the Dash which gain Six Sixty is spot on.
Most at BHX seem to be thinking that MXP, STR, TXL, HAM, HAJ, LYS, DUS might not be around in 12 months and also expecting changes on CDG and AMS.
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It's getting interesting. At what point would Virgn / Stobart have been better served letting Flybe go under and cherry picking the best bits from the administrator, rather than take the business on - debts and all - and face all the costs associated with sorting out a sorry state of affairs?
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It's getting interesting. At what point would Virgn / Stobart have been better served letting Flybe go under and cherry picking the best bits from the administrator, rather than take the business on - debts and all - and face all the costs associated with sorting out a sorry state of affairs?
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But if Flybe went under, then no UK AOC, which is in large what they bought. Add in Brexit, then it would really get difficult, if not inpossible for a UK operation to be set up from scratch on an Irish (EU) AOC (cherry picking or not).
As soon as the EU competition part of the sale process is done, I would think things will move quickly, both for rebranding and new management – I believe the plan is for one board covering VS as well as Connect Air (whatever brand name that ends up under).
As soon as the EU competition part of the sale process is done, I would think things will move quickly, both for rebranding and new management – I believe the plan is for one board covering VS as well as Connect Air (whatever brand name that ends up under).
Most at BHX seem to be thinking that MXP, STR, TXL, HAM, HAJ, LYS, DUS might not be around in 12 months and also expecting changes on CDG and AMS.
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Criminal how such incompetence could have been allowed to bring what is likely to be the eventual demise of a great airline, I can’t see how they now dig themselves out this hole , Th amount of negative propaganda now out there on social media is going to destroy the brand .
And it was all avoidable .
And it was all avoidable .
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I've also seen complaints that prices are quite expensive as well but even if they do make money they might not fit into Flybe future strategy assuming they have they have one!
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The big bad wolf has stated yesterdy he is going to base extra aircraft at the airports Flybe are deserting and ones where the E Jets are being withdrawn from as he thinks correctly that pasengers are not going to happy having to fly on archaic slow old prop jobs when in the past they have flown on the jets
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To be honest, I think DUS is in slightly another league than the other destinations mentioned as it has been around for ages and is served up to 4 times daily. Passenger numbers on BHX-DUS in total are, if I remember correctly, higher to or almost as high as to Frankfurt and Munich as hub airports. The only reason to pull it that I can see would be that yields have deteriorated massively as a result of Eurowings now deploying large Airbus jets on the route (for the lack of smaller 100 seaters)