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I don’t see any problem in them still flying, these places aren’t ‘banned’, there’s just a new quarantine requirement. A flight to Alicante from Manchester with FR post-quarantine imposed still had 160pax on board.
People want to and will still travel now as this has gone on for too long, people are fed up of being stuck in their respective countries.
People want to and will still travel now as this has gone on for too long, people are fed up of being stuck in their respective countries.
Local Teresco (other crappy stores also available) had a lady berating security day of compulsory mask being introduced, crying that said person is infecting everybody by not wearing a mask. Security being more mature and experienced just asked, "At midnight did said gent become more infectious that yesterday because no masks were compulsory ?". Lady responded " Well government made it compulsory so you as security must do it and throw people out of the store". The security response of "Well I have not received the memo yet but we are apparently getting guns to shoot people as well" got a "oh good" and the lady walked away seemingly happy, with security wondering is this Walmart.
An inept Govt who has no clue has done more damage than coronavirus.
I have pointed this out on another thread that while sitting around a swimming pool in Spain I was taken ill. The hotel receptionist called out a private doctor no doubt for a backhander. He called out a private ambulance for I guess another backhander which took me to a plush 5 star hospital.
I was lying there thinking how marvellous their equivalent of the NHS was. If never occurred to me that I was raking up a 4 figure bill and was being treated privately. It was only later on my return to the UK that I found out when the bill arrived. As for my EU medical card, it was worthless. As for my insurance, it was priceless.
I was lying there thinking how marvellous their equivalent of the NHS was. If never occurred to me that I was raking up a 4 figure bill and was being treated privately. It was only later on my return to the UK that I found out when the bill arrived. As for my EU medical card, it was worthless. As for my insurance, it was priceless.
If it was NHS would you rather wait hours for an ambulance and hours on a trolley ?
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I was more than happy with the service I received. The point to the tale was that insurance saved the day as I was in no position to question what was happening to me. Relying on the EU medical card carries its own risks and it is something people need to consider. If folk are happy at the cost of repatriation flights and medical bills why indeed should they bother with insurance if they think nothing will happen to them.
Also the Canaries have recently taken out a block insurance for all visitors to their islands to cover if taken ill with Covid19 whilst there. You have to be staying in a hotel or equivalent (not sure whether AirBnB counts?) and obviously it doesn't cover if you've travelled there after a positive test. This covers any visitors whether Spanish or not and they have initially taken this out for a year.
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There are now some insurance providers, providing cover to those destinations in Europe eg France & Spain that are on the quarantine list - I just got quote for Spain £25 - including medical and repatriation. Companies are adapting to the new ‘normal’.
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Also the Canaries have recently taken out a block insurance for all visitors to their islands to cover if taken ill with Covid19 whilst there. You have to be staying in a hotel or equivalent (not sure whether AirBnB counts?) and obviously it doesn't cover if you've travelled there after a positive test. This covers any visitors whether Spanish or not and they have initially taken this out for a year.
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From Travel Mole:
Ryanair is to add more flights to Portugal after the UK government removed the destination from the list of countries from where travellers must quarantine for 14 days on returning to the UK.
It will operate an additional 14 flights a week to Faro in the Algarve from 12 UK airports between 11 September and 24 October, capitalising on demand for late summer breaks.
Increased flights to Faro
Bournemouth 4 (+1)
Bristol 6 (+1)
Cardiff 3 (+1)
Edinburgh 4 (+1)
East Midlands Airport 8 (+1)
Glasgow Prestwick 4 (+1)
Liverpool 6 (+1)
London Southend 3 (+1)
Luton 5 (+1)
Manchester 13 (+2)
Newcastle 4 (+2)
Stansted 15 (+1)
Portugal was added to the list of 'safe' destinations for UK travellers last Thursday as Croatia, Austria and Trinidad and Tobago were removed.
Ryanair is to add more flights to Portugal after the UK government removed the destination from the list of countries from where travellers must quarantine for 14 days on returning to the UK.
It will operate an additional 14 flights a week to Faro in the Algarve from 12 UK airports between 11 September and 24 October, capitalising on demand for late summer breaks.
Increased flights to Faro
Bournemouth 4 (+1)
Bristol 6 (+1)
Cardiff 3 (+1)
Edinburgh 4 (+1)
East Midlands Airport 8 (+1)
Glasgow Prestwick 4 (+1)
Liverpool 6 (+1)
London Southend 3 (+1)
Luton 5 (+1)
Manchester 13 (+2)
Newcastle 4 (+2)
Stansted 15 (+1)
Portugal was added to the list of 'safe' destinations for UK travellers last Thursday as Croatia, Austria and Trinidad and Tobago were removed.
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Never having been proven slow in growing out of the industry`s problems & setbacks & having considered how Ryanair would begin to take any advantage of the Pandemic catastrophe the first signs appear to have emerged today.
Ryanair is to undertake a share placing to raise Euro400m in a book building exercise to be better placed to take advantage of future opportunities including to grow the network expand it`s fleet take advantage of lower airport & a/c cost opportunities that are likely to arise.
Watching the WZZ expansion/announcement frenzy too in recent times must have been particularly galling though RYR have obviously been held back by non deliveries of the "Max" even before Covid19.
Ryanair is to undertake a share placing to raise Euro400m in a book building exercise to be better placed to take advantage of future opportunities including to grow the network expand it`s fleet take advantage of lower airport & a/c cost opportunities that are likely to arise.
Watching the WZZ expansion/announcement frenzy too in recent times must have been particularly galling though RYR have obviously been held back by non deliveries of the "Max" even before Covid19.
It is also doubtful aside from a few big airports that slot availability will be an issue for 3 years so why go nuts when not needed.
Ryanair will be able to use existing fleet for next 2 yrs without likely needing new aircraft, there are also a lot of 738s that can be leased in very cheaply if required. The aviation market will be at 2019 levels if lucky in 2024.
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Pointing out that RYR have a proven & successful track record for expanding into a downturn & that the current "catastrophe" for the industry will present many opportunities with the statement issued yesterday kinda giving those first indications.
As for new a/c & the existing fleet the MAX will be added at some stage.
Pre COVID RYR had already stated that non MAX deliveries had held back expansion plans with STN saying much the same thing for their own traffic levels.
Yes lots of availability too in the lease/purchase market which RYR indicate as well.
Perhaps not just the B738 having now A320`s & building experience with a subsidiary fleet.
Unfortunately market levels may present as pointed out but if so RYR appear to be saying they will go after a bigger share of that or any sized market then.
As for new a/c & the existing fleet the MAX will be added at some stage.
Pre COVID RYR had already stated that non MAX deliveries had held back expansion plans with STN saying much the same thing for their own traffic levels.
Yes lots of availability too in the lease/purchase market which RYR indicate as well.
Perhaps not just the B738 having now A320`s & building experience with a subsidiary fleet.
Unfortunately market levels may present as pointed out but if so RYR appear to be saying they will go after a bigger share of that or any sized market then.
Pointing out that RYR have a proven & successful track record for expanding into a downturn & that the current "catastrophe" for the industry will present many opportunities with the statement issued yesterday kinda giving those first indications.
As for new a/c & the existing fleet the MAX will be added at some stage.
Pre COVID RYR had already stated that non MAX deliveries had held back expansion plans with STN saying much the same thing for their own traffic levels.
Yes lots of availability too in the lease/purchase market which RYR indicate as well.
Perhaps not just the B738 having now A320`s & building experience with a subsidiary fleet.
Unfortunately market levels may present as pointed out but if so RYR appear to be saying they will go after a bigger share of that or any sized market then.
As for new a/c & the existing fleet the MAX will be added at some stage.
Pre COVID RYR had already stated that non MAX deliveries had held back expansion plans with STN saying much the same thing for their own traffic levels.
Yes lots of availability too in the lease/purchase market which RYR indicate as well.
Perhaps not just the B738 having now A320`s & building experience with a subsidiary fleet.
Unfortunately market levels may present as pointed out but if so RYR appear to be saying they will go after a bigger share of that or any sized market then.
As it stands for FY2020 to March it required FR to cut back on marginal routes and maximise profitability (cash) v expansion which would have eaten cash in the shoprt term.
It is doubtful that there will be any great uptake in flights until April 2021, likely by then the Max will be flying plus Ryanair will have sucked up seasonsal leases for expansion though it is doubtful passenger numbers will be the same until 2022 but fares will be higher.
At this point in time, the longer the Max is not flying the more beneficial it is for Ryanair. The likely benefit will be in region of couple of hundred $M. It will be restructred in such a way no doubt that doesn't devalue purchase price of the Max and potentially Boeing doing something with older aircraft or writing off debt on some of the newer 738's delivered.
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The "compensation" factor with the MAX clearly a priority for RYR & without doubt as the industry`s 2nd largest customer for the 737 model Boeing no matter how it is structured will be of course "looking after" RYR.
