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Old 17th Apr 2019, 22:55
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Dropped from HHN and transferred to FRA or dropped at all?There are a lot of routes FR wont be flying out of FRA for W19 season compared to W18
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 00:13
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
Considering the success (operationally) of the SEN base using the short-field performance 738's, does this unlock new airports in the UK/Ireland like Inverness, Norwich, Humberside, Southampton, Cambridge, Oxford, Galway, Donegal, Sligo, Stornoway, Sumburgh???
Sorry, just seen this... Stornoway is anything but a 'short-field' airport: at about 2,300m its runway is nearly as long as Newcastle's. Sumburgh has about 1,500m, so is a lot shorter than Southend. Plus there's a great big hill on the approach to runway 33 leading to an interesting approach pattern.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 06:46
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Originally Posted by jensdad
Sorry, just seen this... Stornoway is anything but a 'short-field' airport: at about 2,300m its runway is nearly as long as Newcastle's. Sumburgh has about 1,500m, so is a lot shorter than Southend. Plus there's a great big hill on the approach to runway 33 leading to an interesting approach pattern.
A Ryanair base on Stornoway...asking a lot for a catchment area of just 27k, and about 25k for Sumburgh.
Would probably make sense to codeshare with Loganair and feed SEN instead,


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Old 18th Apr 2019, 07:06
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Originally Posted by Plane.Silly
A Ryanair base on Stornoway...asking a lot for a catchment area of just 27k, and about 25k for Sumburgh.
Would probably make sense to codeshare with Loganair and feed SEN instead,
Why would Stornaway (or any of those airports) need to be a base? Surely it could just be a couple of flights a week from London.

I think Stornaway was considered way back but that was when they had the much lower capacity -200s. 189 is maybe just too many seats to fill. They may fill an -800 to Inverness including from Germany, much as they manage with Kerry.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 07:42
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Would a route to Scottish islands on Ryanair really be viable ? Tourist season is maybe 3 or 4 months of the year (when demand to Mediterranean beaches is high), and I imagine that the locals would want to support Loganair to ensure availability of transport on a year round basis as happened with Flybe/Easteen
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 11:13
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The idea of going to there is worthy of a press release on 1st of April.................. nothing more because it is unsustainable.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 11:35
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Originally Posted by racedo
The idea of going to there is worthy of a press release on 1st of April.................. nothing more because it is unsustainable.
A quick google search confirms talks did take place about 18 years ago so it’s not really April Fools territory. It is an area people are keen to visit so it’s not as off the wall as one may immediately think. The problem might remain that too much money is required to upgrade facilities to handle larger aircraft to make it worthwhile, though the SNP might well see it as money well spent!
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 11:55
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They need to find a stone brought to the island by Irish monks 1,000 years ago. This stone will have carvings that theological experts agree proves that the Virgin Mary appeared at this place.

Sold out 738's will be landing at SYY at regular intervals in no time at all.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 14:07
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
A quick google search confirms talks did take place about 18 years ago so it’s not really April Fools territory. It is an area people are keen to visit so it’s not as off the wall as one may immediately think. The problem might remain that too much money is required to upgrade facilities to handle larger aircraft to make it worthwhile, though the SNP might well see it as money well spent!
Talks taking place is irrelevant as someone makes a proposal, out of courtesy you meet and listen to the proposal.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 14:09
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
They need to find a stone brought to the island by Irish monks 1,000 years ago. This stone will have carvings that theological experts agree proves that the Virgin Mary appeared at this place.

Sold out 738's will be landing at SYY at regular intervals in no time at all.
Keep taking the pills that try to make you less stupid. You missed this mornings.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 17:53
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Lol...We will have no frippery here DC3 Dave...
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 18:00
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
They need to find a stone brought to the island by Irish monks 1,000 years ago. This stone will have carvings that theological experts agree proves that the Virgin Mary appeared at this place.

Sold out 738's will be landing at SYY at regular intervals in no time at all.
Quite so. Did LDE no harm at all.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 23:16
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Originally Posted by racedo
Talks taking place is irrelevant as someone makes a proposal, out of courtesy you meet and listen to the proposal.
Maybe so but you don’t meet out of courtesy more than once
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 10:49
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Maybe so but you don’t meet out of courtesy more than once
Actually you do. If someone has been pleasant and interesting then lose nothing by doing it a second time as you may be able to help in a different way. Just dismissing something quickly leaves a very negative impression. A second meeting to indicate why not feasible at this point in time plus offer advice and assistance leave a very different message.

Bearing in mind that people suggesting one airport may in 5 years time be looking after a much bigger airport in a different country. A meeting occurs between Airline and Airport and person meets someone they met 5 years ago. They remember person as being polite, pleasant and willing to offer advice then that is a much better meeting that someone who remembers someone as being dismissive. Most business is really small place.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 11:08
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Originally Posted by racedo
Actually you do. If someone has been pleasant and interesting then lose nothing by doing it a second time as you may be able to help in a different way. Just dismissing something quickly leaves a very negative impression. A second meeting to indicate why not feasible at this point in time plus offer advice and assistance leave a very different message.

Bearing in mind that people suggesting one airport may in 5 years time be looking after a much bigger airport in a different country. A meeting occurs between Airline and Airport and person meets someone they met 5 years ago. They remember person as being polite, pleasant and willing to offer advice then that is a much better meeting that someone who remembers someone as being dismissive. Most business is really small place.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 17:43
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Originally Posted by sixchannel
There speaketh another Purchasing Professional?
Never nail shut a door you might want to walk back through.
Nope not my field just have found so many times that courtesy can come back years later when you least expect it, especially when the idea not great but people willing to show you why and allow you to learn from it.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 19:39
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Belfast will be closing soon so they will be out of the Northern Ireland market altogether, another brainwave from the fr beancounters lol.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 07:54
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Belfast will be closing soon so they will be out of the Northern Ireland market altogether, another brainwave from the fr beancounters lol.
First time you have mentioned that.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 10:43
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Belfast will be closing soon so they will be out of the Northern Ireland market altogether, another brainwave from the fr beancounters lol.
Doesn’t say much for a country when Ryanair exit completely
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 10:58
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Originally Posted by 2Para
Belfast will be closing soon so they will be out of the Northern Ireland market altogether, another brainwave from the fr beancounters lol.
Not quite sure how to interpret this. Does it mean Ryanair is closing all routes from Belfast ? The Ryanair website seems to show tickets on sale for some routes into 2020
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