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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 15:19
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Ryanair UK Ltd has been awarded it`s UK AOC today.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 10:14
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Originally Posted by CCFAIRPORT
you can fly with flybe from BHX ! don't know if it's easier ?
Thanks for that, however the same dates cost £85 more with Flybe plus extra cost of train from Durham. Their quote was supposed to be in a sale as well.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 19:51
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A nice surprise, new route from Berlin SXF to Lappeenranta announced today, starting on 1st of April. In my opinion such a route will sell extremely well. Not only Finns, but also Russians from St. Petersburg will use it on their way to Germany. An agreement with a bus company could help to promote St. Petersburg as a destination for the Berliners, hopefully it will be arranged. On the other hand, the frequency of flights will be just twice a week and that can lead to relatively high level of fares on that route. That's my prediction anyway.
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 08:25
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Sky News: Ryanair named worst short-haul airline for sixth year in a row, according to survey

http://news.sky.com/story/ryanair-na...urvey-11599298

Oddly, the Which survey did not take into account fare prices.

Paradoxically, UK customers and millions of other European customers continue choosing to fly with Ryanair over any other low cost airlines, and it seems total airfare cost continues to be the most important factor driving customer behaviours. Interesting.

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Old 5th Jan 2019, 08:40
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Shame it costs more to take a 15kg case than the cost of the passengers fare, is this to take account of some over weight passengers?
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Originally Posted by oldart
Shame it costs more to take a 15kg case than the cost of the passengers fare, is this to take account of some over weight passengers?
People are becoming heavier body weights in Western Europe according to WHO reports. You may be onto something, and could be a growing factor on fuel burning cost, perhaps.
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 11:11
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
Sky News: Ryanair named worst short-haul airline for sixth year in a row, according to survey

http://news.sky.com/story/ryanair-na...urvey-11599298

Oddly, the Which survey did not take into account fare prices.

Paradoxically, UK customers and millions of other European customers continue choosing to fly with Ryanair over any other low cost airlines, and it seems total airfare cost continues to be the most important factor driving customer behaviours. Interesting.

Garbage survey because it is of Which Members who provide Zero proof they have actually flown during a particular time period. There is no independent verification that people actually fly.

Secondly as survey has been going for years then anybody who has declared that they will never fly with X Airline again should be automatically excluded in commenting on said Airline in following year.

Wonder if an independent audit was taken of those taking part in the survey. How many would show people claiming year after year they would never fly with X Airline again and then lo and behold they commenting on said airline in a survey and claim to have flown.
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 11:28
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Did any airline, airline industry service provider, or public affairs lobbist acting directly or indirectly for any aviation industry participant, either fund or provide non-funding support to the survey? You see where I'm going with this . . . .
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 12:41
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
Did any airline, airline industry service provider, or public affairs lobbist acting directly or indirectly for any aviation industry participant, either fund or provide non-funding support to the survey? You see where I'm going with this . . . .
None of the above.

Which ? is what it says it is. A consumer organisation paid for by Subscription, Did they do the survey ? The answer would be yes. I was a member for 20 odd years.

However then it starts to breakdown a bit. It is very much a "Middle class", Daily Mail reader type organisation. The issue is that they provide no proof that people who fill in one of their survets are real users of the product they are surveying, secondly if you have thrashed an organisation and would shout "I would never use them again", then you should be automatically exlcuded from commenting on them in following year.

Surveys previously have shown BA to be best Airline even when they left thousands at airports through strikes etc.
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 12:57
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I suspect the Which? members are largely people of advancing years who hark back to the days of free meals, free bags, free seat selection etc and for the most part travel on legacy carriers that still offer some of these frills. They would only have to have one experience of Ryanair to realise the world isn't like that anymore but it wouldn't stop them complaining that everything is "wrong2 with Ryanair.

If their recent passenger figures and profits are any measure then they are satisfying the mass market end of the industry, and to be honest if I ran an airline as successful as Ryanyair I would take diddly squat notice of reports by the likes of Which?.
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 13:25
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Which?'s survey is not scientifically based is it? Aren't all members simply asked for their views?

Not all people of advancing years are wrapped up in the past when it comes to comparing lowcost airlines with legacy carriers of yesteryear. Many of us realise and accept that life moves on, and I'm very grateful for being able to fly to numerous destinations from my local airport which was not the case when legacy airlines prevailed.

I use easyJet and Ryanair and would not hesitate to use either again and will do so.
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 13:45
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Two quick observations, this survey can't be checked to deep dive the analytics, it isn't open to unbiased scrutiny. Secondly, at the end of the day, if you buy a cheap airline ticket you got to understand it is simply a vehicle to take you from A to B in a short haul market, don't expect Emirates level services, it's a bus in the sky and the Ryanair financials and KPIs don't lie, clearly Ryanairs business model is a resounding commercial success story and a massive job creator, but let's not allow those positive factors to distract attention
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 17:16
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Oh these surveys and reports... In Finland we have quite severe problem with the obesity & metabolic diseases and they didn't even mention us on the fattest countries list. What a relief... but not true. The same applies to these "worst"and "best"airlines, I guess. By the way, where the "Luthuania" is?
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Old 5th Jan 2019, 17:24
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Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer
Which?'s survey is not scientifically based is it? Aren't all members simply asked for their views?

Not all people of advancing years are wrapped up in the past when it comes to comparing lowcost airlines with legacy carriers of yesteryear. Many of us realise and accept that life moves on, and I'm very grateful for being able to fly to numerous destinations from my local airport which was not the case when legacy airlines prevailed.

I use easyJet and Ryanair and would not hesitate to use either again and will do so.
Correct it is not scientifically based but media using it as someone a "MAJOR" snapshot of the industry when in reality the number of people involved amounts to 3 days pax for Ryanair at Gatwick.

It is a self publicity action for Which.............. nothing more.
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 09:34
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Would it be fair to say that a younger person going away for a weeks break, would be more likely to take just cabin luggage than maybe an older person like myself? To save the odd £40 I have tried to take less clothing, just does not work for me. In my case I refuse to pay extra for a seat and don't mind waiting a few more minutes to disembark from the plane.
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 11:18
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Originally Posted by oldart
Would it be fair to say that a younger person going away for a weeks break, would be more likely to take just cabin luggage than maybe an older person like myself? To save the odd £40 I have tried to take less clothing, just does not work for me. In my case I refuse to pay extra for a seat and don't mind waiting a few more minutes to disembark from the plane.
Funny thing is, everyone gets on and off the plane and can go nowhere until everyone's on the bus to take you too the terminal at likes of Stansted. For destination airports where a bus isn't required then I suppose sitting in 1C or 2D can make the difference. If you need to sit together then I suppose it makes sense to book your seats to guarantee being sat together as a group otherwise it's Russian Roulette
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 11:44
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Everyone is in such a rush, for what I don't know,they end up a few people in front of me at passport control or the red traffic lights down the road. Patience is in short supply in this modern day.
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 11:59
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Those of us without luggage in the hold and travelling onwards from the airport by public transport know from bitter experience that buses/trains tend to leave maybe every 30 mins or every hour; miss that onward connection and you can have a rather long and annoying wait

Even if there is a need to board a bus from aircraft steps to the terminal it is still worth being quick to deboard the plane - at many airports if there are 2 buses to ferry pax, the 1st bus will often leave once full and not wait for the stragglers; boarding the 2nd bus can mean that (allowing for the queue of 90 pax to be processed by immigration) it takes an extra 10 mins before reaching the bus stop / train station

If going somewhere as part of a daytrip or two day weekend, a delay of half an hour in the middle of the day really does eat quite significantly into the time available when shops/businesses/museums are open
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 18:24
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Someone from FR should be able to confirm whether they are actually basing 3 738's at SEN or whether it will actually be Lauda 320's??? Can someone/anyone confirm???
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
Someone from FR should be able to confirm whether they are actually basing 3 738's at SEN or whether it will actually be Lauda 320's??? Can someone/anyone confirm???
RYR pilots due to start at SEN in April say all three based aircraft will be B738. No plans, at the moment, to bring in the A320s.
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