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[racedo]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

Considering the success (operationally) of the SEN base using the short-field performance 738's, does this unlock new airports in the UK/Ireland like Inverness, Norwich, Humberside, Southampton, Cambridge, Oxford, Galway, Donegal, Sligo, Stornoway, Sumburgh???

Doubt it as there was Belfast city before.

[Lon12]

One question.... does FR gonna cancel almost all routes from/to Frankfurt main next winter?

[racedo]

Originally Posted by Lon12

One question.... does FR gonna cancel almost all routes from/to Frankfurt main next winter?

Why would they ?

[2Para]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

Considering the success (operationally) of the SEN base using the short-field performance 738's, does this unlock new airports in the UK/Ireland like Inverness, Norwich, Humberside, Southampton, Cambridge, Oxford, Galway, Donegal, Sligo, Stornoway, Sumburgh???

short field takeoff aircraft still need sufficient runway length for a fully loaded and fuelled aircraft eg, canaries, turkey etc

[AerRyan]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

Considering the success (operationally) of the SEN base using the short-field performance 738's, does this unlock new airports in the UK/Ireland like Inverness, Norwich, Humberside, Southampton, Cambridge, Oxford, Galway, Donegal, Sligo, Stornoway, Sumburgh???

Southend runway length: 1,856m/6089ft
Galway runway length: 1,289m/4230ft
Donegal runway length: 1496m/4908ft
Sligo airport runway length: 1,199m/3,933ft

There's a bit of a difference in runway length, so no, to Ireland at least.

[Lon12]

Originally Posted by racedo

Why would they ?

Almost all Spain-Frankfurt Routes for winter are not on sale.

[eu01]

Did Ryanair expectations come true in regard to flying out of big airports? I would bet that e.g. Berlin (both TXL and SXL) works fine, but FRA not necessarily so.

[alm1]

If you search for flights from FRA using Ryanair fare finder you see lots of destinations offered for 4, 5 or 7 euros to fly in May. With FRA charges those discounted seats must be heavy loss making. I think they might be able to offset airport charges with ancillary revenue when they offer those dirt cheap lead-in fares at HHN but I really doubt it is possible at FRA fees levels.

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by alm1

If you search for flights from FRA using Ryanair fare finder you see lots of destinations offered for 4, 5 or 7 euros to fly in May. With FRA charges those discounted seats must be heavy loss making. I think they might be able to offset airport charges with ancillary revenue when they offer those dirt cheap lead-in fares at HHN but I really doubt it is possible at FRA fees levels.

John Ruskin once commented "there is nothing in this world someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper. Those, to whom price is the only consideration, are this man's lawful prey."

[alm1]

Originally Posted by sixchannel

John Ruskin once commented "there is nothing in this world someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper. Those, to whom price is the only consideration, are this man's lawful prey."

Oh there is a limit. Once upon a time many years ago I had difficulty buying Ryanair flight because the price was 0,01 SEK. My bank could not process transaction because it was to small, that was about 0,001 eur and their process converted that to 0 making payment fail. I think I needed to add several imaginary friends to fly with me to be able to pay

[racedo]

Originally Posted by alm1

If you search for flights from FRA using Ryanair fare finder you see lots of destinations offered for 4, 5 or 7 euros to fly in May. With FRA charges those discounted seats must be heavy loss making. I think they might be able to offset airport charges with ancillary revenue when they offer those dirt cheap lead-in fares at HHN but I really doubt it is possible at FRA fees levels.

You forget that aim is long term growth rather than just short term profitability. Build up a presence there and build passenger numbers because 1.) you will get passenger numbers 2.) forces LH to keep a focus on here.

[Blakedean]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

Considering the success (operationally) of the SEN base using the short-field performance 738's, does this unlock new airports in the UK/Ireland like Inverness, Norwich, Humberside, Southampton, Cambridge, Oxford, Galway, Donegal, Sligo, Stornoway, Sumburgh???

They’ve already flown from INV & HUY, nothing stopping them flying to NWI in the past, been summer holiday charters there for years. GWY is actually closed as a commercial airport (or is very close to it), NOC & SNN just up & downnthe road too. LDY not far from CFN, SXL no chance same with CBG (STN quite close) & OXF. Maybe WAT if they ever get that runway extension, a return to where it all began & a LON route would do well but then again, not exactly a million miles from Dub & ORK. Stornoway & Sumburgh, who knows? Few weekly flights could work I suppose.

[racedo]

Can forecast some delays on a Ryanair flight tonight / tomorrow from Liverpool. But hey MOL will be buying as his horse wins Grand National for second year in a row,

[Startledgrapefruit]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47841028

Local news
Local people outraged
That will teach Ryanair

[SWBKCB]

Considering the success (operationally) of the SEN base using the short-field performance 738's

Calling this early after, what, 5 days of operation?

[inOban]

Well, going by their website, Edinburgh to Stansted drops from 4-5 flights each week day to just 4 flights a week - Thur Fri and Sunday evenings and Saturday morning, and no flights at all after October. It's not just Flybe that can't make money on domestic flights.

[LGS6753]

I suspect this may have something to do with late delivery of 737 Max aircraft.

[inOban]

Maybe, but I suspect that these domestic passengers are less likely to purchase the additional items - seat selection, checked bags, etc - which now form such a large part of their revenue. Remember that the actual cost per person is about £50. I suspect they're not achieving anything like that.

[racedo]

Originally Posted by inOban

Maybe, but I suspect that these domestic passengers are less likely to purchase the additional items - seat selection, checked bags, etc - which now form such a large part of their revenue. Remember that the actual cost per person is about £50. I suspect they're not achieving anything like that.

Likely something like that plus added on what they would need to do Post Brexit means it just isn't worth the bother. I am aware of someone who paid £10.01 for himself and 2 under 14's tp fly from BFS - MAN in Feb. Cost him more to get from Belfast to the Airport.

[CCFAIRPORT]

ryanair dropped 4 more routes from Frankfurt / HHN from October 2019

Malaga
Palma / Mallorca
riga
Santiago / Compostela