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The thing is they could cover crew needs and passenger relations simply by adding £1 or €1 to every seat sold.
its not rocket science, people would pay more if they knew no matter what happens the airline would look after you.
There is no need for the loco mentality anymore everyone is doing it, Ryanair could grow fast with a better image.
most choose Ryanair for there good departure times and network coverage not necessarily price, we are only talking a £ or € for god sake.
its not rocket science, people would pay more if they knew no matter what happens the airline would look after you.
There is no need for the loco mentality anymore everyone is doing it, Ryanair could grow fast with a better image.
most choose Ryanair for there good departure times and network coverage not necessarily price, we are only talking a £ or € for god sake.

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"People in Rome with no money is just poor money management on there behalf, how did they survive on there holiday in Rome or when they are going."
But they probably didn't realise that they would be stranded in Rome for 5 days, and told to find their own flights home, and then hope that Ryanair find it in their hearts to reimburse them.
Its one thing to support the defensible, but supporting the indefensible as you are doing, demeans the validity of your replies.
But they probably didn't realise that they would be stranded in Rome for 5 days, and told to find their own flights home, and then hope that Ryanair find it in their hearts to reimburse them.
Its one thing to support the defensible, but supporting the indefensible as you are doing, demeans the validity of your replies.

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"People in Rome with no money is just poor money management on there behalf, how did they survive on there holiday in Rome or when they are going."
But they probably didn't realise that they would be stranded in Rome for 5 days, and told to find their own flights home, and then hope that Ryanair find it in their hearts to reimburse them.
Its one thing to support the defensible, but supporting the indefensible as you are doing, demeans the validity of your replies.
But they probably didn't realise that they would be stranded in Rome for 5 days, and told to find their own flights home, and then hope that Ryanair find it in their hearts to reimburse them.
Its one thing to support the defensible, but supporting the indefensible as you are doing, demeans the validity of your replies.
Ryanair have a duty to get you home as they've sent you out there originally. They also have a duty to pay for the hotels you require and food you consume to a reasonable standard. Often passengers seem to think they won't do these things and themselves opt out of clauses in which these duties are held, leaving themselves often in worse positions.
While airlines have a duty to supply EU261 information, it is their own fault if they cannot carry out this basic research before travelling. This information is not hard to find yet ignorance and outrage due to a consumers own ignorance is unbelievable. I'm not stating my opinion on the conditions of Ryanair employees, but rather the complete and utter inability for people to look out for themselves.

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With a such a significant drop in the share price in the last month does MOL have the ability to hold on to his position or is it the beginning of the end for him and will ultimately be pushed out?
Look at where we are in the world in terms of economy. In the employment sector if we do not like our jobs we go somewhere else and this is happening in all facets of industry. So many industries looking for staff and they are just nowhere to be found.
The shareholders patience will eventually run out and they will want an improved product. The started this a few years ago with the nicey nicey feel but MOL just can't help himself.
Look at where we are in the world in terms of economy. In the employment sector if we do not like our jobs we go somewhere else and this is happening in all facets of industry. So many industries looking for staff and they are just nowhere to be found.
The shareholders patience will eventually run out and they will want an improved product. The started this a few years ago with the nicey nicey feel but MOL just can't help himself.

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Cmon, is this PPRuNe or Facebook?
Ryanair have a duty to get you home as they've sent you out there originally. They also have a duty to pay for the hotels you require and food you consume to a reasonable standard. Often passengers seem to think they won't do these things and themselves opt out of clauses in which these duties are held, leaving themselves often in worse positions.
While airlines have a duty to supply EU261 information, it is their own fault if they cannot carry out this basic research before travelling. This information is not hard to find yet ignorance and outrage due to a consumers own ignorance is unbelievable. I'm not stating my opinion on the conditions of Ryanair employees, but rather the complete and utter inability for people to look out for themselves.
Ryanair have a duty to get you home as they've sent you out there originally. They also have a duty to pay for the hotels you require and food you consume to a reasonable standard. Often passengers seem to think they won't do these things and themselves opt out of clauses in which these duties are held, leaving themselves often in worse positions.
While airlines have a duty to supply EU261 information, it is their own fault if they cannot carry out this basic research before travelling. This information is not hard to find yet ignorance and outrage due to a consumers own ignorance is unbelievable. I'm not stating my opinion on the conditions of Ryanair employees, but rather the complete and utter inability for people to look out for themselves.
The staff at the desk were simply saying, we are not Ryanair, there is nothing we can do.
Passengers were asking for simple information and being told 4-5 days wait for 2 seats back to Stansted.
when asked what hotel or alternative was available, they replied no flight are guaranteed not even 5 days, no hotel at all and no food go and book other flights with other airlines before they are full and in the end the shutter was pulled down.
so what can you do.

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Ryanair is cash-rich because its business model works. If the pilots win major changes to their employment packages, thereby increasing costs substantially, Ryanair's mission to be lowest cost operator will take a hit. They can't afford to let the pilots win, and if any settlement is too costly I can see future changes to the business model that the pilots might not like.
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With a such a significant drop in the share price in the last month does MOL have the ability to hold on to his position or is it the beginning of the end for him and will ultimately be pushed out?
Look at where we are in the world in terms of economy. In the employment sector if we do not like our jobs we go somewhere else and this is happening in all facets of industry. So many industries looking for staff and they are just nowhere to be found.
The shareholders patience will eventually run out and they will want an improved product. The started this a few years ago with the nicey nicey feel but MOL just can't help himself.
Look at where we are in the world in terms of economy. In the employment sector if we do not like our jobs we go somewhere else and this is happening in all facets of industry. So many industries looking for staff and they are just nowhere to be found.
The shareholders patience will eventually run out and they will want an improved product. The started this a few years ago with the nicey nicey feel but MOL just can't help himself.

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All talk at the UK-CAA (x27 !)
My reply?
Sweet FA !
Multiply this by 27 (especially in the case of Ireland; Republic of) and the result is exactly what we see today.
The EU261 law is just so much hot air in most cases.

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Cutting the [email protected] (?)
... Ryanair is run by a board and executive leadership team, and not O'Leary. He may be the guy wheeled out to media press conferences and the guy says it as is is, no bullsh!t, no sugar coated, no airy fairy woolie language. But of course some folks can't take that direct blunt tone, cause it cuts through the crap and gets to the heart of the debate and issues. At the end of the day, he's a hard nosed businessman and he's been a huge part of building the successful expansion at Ryanair and the thousands of jobs ultimately created and their welcomed aggressive competition to force airfares downwards. There is no doubt, air travel across Europe wouldn't be what it is today but for likes of Ryanair (and some others too).
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You really sound like the mouthpiece for Ryanair mik3bravo on here. I am the the first to defend free speech but come on 'it will blow over' never heard such tosh for a longtime, I should know I was connected to the media in one form or another all my working life.


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c3b...
"Events dear boy events"...
Being media savy then you will realise any news being front & centre does not last for too long exceptions being B****t & also our beloved politicos...
More than halfway thru the major holiday season where the max disruption has been caused & although actual resolutions may or may not be in evidence in the very short term as far as mass media scrutiny is concerned "it will blow over"...it always does as with any subject...
Major flag carriers in Europe have suffered many labour disputes in the past with all the resultant media attention,of course now all "blown over"...
"Events dear boy events"...
Being media savy then you will realise any news being front & centre does not last for too long exceptions being B****t & also our beloved politicos...
More than halfway thru the major holiday season where the max disruption has been caused & although actual resolutions may or may not be in evidence in the very short term as far as mass media scrutiny is concerned "it will blow over"...it always does as with any subject...
Major flag carriers in Europe have suffered many labour disputes in the past with all the resultant media attention,of course now all "blown over"...

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EU261 Compensation Cheques sent out not signed - charged extra fees by banks, and no response from Ryanair when the recipients complained.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45262871
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45262871

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Trust me, the majority of passengers knew their rights.
The staff at the desk were simply saying, we are not Ryanair, there is nothing we can do.
Passengers were asking for simple information and being told 4-5 days wait for 2 seats back to Stansted.
when asked what hotel or alternative was available, they replied no flight are guaranteed not even 5 days, no hotel at all and no food go and book other flights with other airlines before they are full and in the end the shutter was pulled down.
so what can you do.
The staff at the desk were simply saying, we are not Ryanair, there is nothing we can do.
Passengers were asking for simple information and being told 4-5 days wait for 2 seats back to Stansted.
when asked what hotel or alternative was available, they replied no flight are guaranteed not even 5 days, no hotel at all and no food go and book other flights with other airlines before they are full and in the end the shutter was pulled down.
so what can you do.
The law stands as it stands. To which extent someone you are doing business with complies with the law and how difficult (or not) it is to force the law upon your business partner is no different whether you are dealing with Ryanair or someone else. Ryanair (and a lot of other airlines) are simply difficult business partners and it is a choice everyone has to make whether or not you want to enter into contractual relationships with someone who will give you headaches if something goes wrong. As the law stands as it stands, in the end you will prevail, but it will require instructing a legal service provider, advancing costs for travel, accommodation plus legal fees. That is what your business partner bases his business model on: "So what can you do."
If I remember correctly, I have received compensation and/or damages without a fuss only once (from a US carrier). In all other cases I had to throw the law book at them, either by threatening legal action or actually initiating proceedings. Not once so far it actually ended up in court. As soon as they saw that I meant business and was about to play hardball, they were quick to cough up the dough. However, I am not really chasing compensation. There have been cases in which I would have been entitled to compensation and I could not be bothered to do something as I was not seriously inconvenienced or had suffered a monetary loss.

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EU261 Compensation Cheques sent out not signed - charged extra fees by banks, and no response from Ryanair when the recipients complained.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45262871
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45262871

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Many of these naive people will probably never have seen a cheque, wedded as they are to electronic everything. It's a wonder they knew where to take their cheque!!!

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As it is Ryanair, I am tempted to suggest pettiness? As far as I know, cashing in a cheque will result in an admin fee by your bank....
