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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:12
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Kind of a shame, for O'Leary that is, that Air Berlin are Airbus and not Boeing.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:23
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Now the CAA action against Ryanair is 1st headline on BBC News

"Ryanair threatened with legal action by UK regulator"

Ryanair threatened with legal action by UK regulator - BBC News

Meanwhile the IAA poodle in Dublin still couldn't care less.
CAA running to media and then claiming "Oh it won't go to court" so why again are the screaming it will ?
For optics only.

So were they shouting about court and BA ?
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:26
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
Rowly6339....Don`t worry...RYR in keeping with all large corporations will always keep their shareholders the happiest first...the dividend will be maintained & probably increased.Yes questions will be asked & behind the scenes the institutions will no doubt be hoppity but ho hum life goes on..
Ryanair do not pay dividends.

They may make distribution of funds but not called nor classified as a dividend as not paid or guaranteed any time.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:27
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
Just wait til Ireland really gets the hang of being a net contributor for a few years
Believe it already is and people have no issues with it.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:31
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Originally Posted by Sober Lark
"RYANAIR - Continent Cut Off"

Most of the UK voted for BREXIT. Now which waves do Britania hope to rule in Europe? They want an a la carte separation, they desire EU laws for compensation, open skies etc etc. Mvembership has its benefits which won't apply in the not too distant future.

Theresa May and others are slow to negotiate and the divorce bill is mounting. In business if blocked you can't wait forever as on onlooker you just move on.
I think you'll find that most of the UK DID not vote for Brexit. 52% voted for it which is a small majority.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:31
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BA dealt with the problems as per the rules.

So there there was no need for court action.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 12:36
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Most of the UK voted for BREXIT
Roughly 17.5M of the UK population voted for Brexit. 47M did not.
I don't think Bexit has any bearing on the current RYR issues.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 15:40
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I think you'll find the total electorate is only 46501241 and you had a 72.2% turn out. You voted to leave by the narrowest of margins 51.9% and the ACI states the UK is risking 270,000 jobs and 15.4 billion a year if it damages its aviation relationship with the EU. In passing, the EU has told UK not to use Northern Ireland as a bargaining chip in Brexit divorce talks. I feel sympathy for those who voted not to leave, its an unpleasant situation but to many who have their heads in the clouds thinking Brexit isn't an influence then I rest my case. Grounding flights gives Ryanair great opportunities to restructure.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 15:52
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I see that no Ryanair flights in and out of Malta are on the lists of cancellations. Obviously they're axing their least profitable routes.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 16:34
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Originally Posted by racedo
Ryanair do not pay dividends.

They may make distribution of funds but not called nor classified as a dividend as not paid or guaranteed any time.
Cf: "employees" who work for them but are not legally employed and so aren't employees after all. Despite wearing the uniform and flying the plane?

Wonderful place to work (though not as an employee) or receive distributions of funds (though not dividends) this EU, in'nit?
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 16:36
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Originally Posted by racedo
Believe it already is and people have no issues with it.
Just the same as the Germans had no issues with Angela's open borders policy?

Well till last Sunday they didn't.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 16:37
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So CAA are going after RYR for not offering alternative flights with other airlines. Hope this is being applied even-handedly and they are seeking similar assurances from other airlines - easyJet were adamant they wouldn't when my flight was cancelled last year.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 17:33
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BA were awkward with me in the past as well and a colleague told me once he tried to complain about it to the regulator (I assume the CAA) and didn't get very far since it wasn't apparently required.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 18:01
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Originally Posted by Mr A Tis
Roughly 17.5M of the UK population voted for Brexit. 47M did not.
I don't think Bexit has any bearing on the current RYR issues.
Absolute nonsense but hey that's what we expect these days.

Back on topic I do think they will lose some pax long term after this fiasco,not all but some.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 18:21
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Originally Posted by racedo
Ryanair do not pay dividends.

They may make distribution of funds but not called nor classified as a dividend as not paid or guaranteed any time.
Purely for tax advantage.

The Ryanair chairman for the last 20 years, who never makes public pronouncements, is US billionaire citizen David Bonderman, who heads investment group TPG (the old Texas Pacific Group). Once upon a time, when there was a Continental Airlines, he was a board member of that. TPG are also major investors in Uber, where Bonderman had to resign his board position a few months ago following inappropriate behaviour. Everyone can be assured that TPG do not make any investments, including backing Ryanair's huge aircraft purchases, without a very satisfactory rate of return on their investment. Whether this is represented as dividends from profits, charges, or some other form, is entirely down to layers of tax accountants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 21:43
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I need my driveway paving............is that on their website?
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 21:52
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So the CAA want Ryanair to email all the customers again who they cancelled and say that they will pay for their alternative arrangements for trips with other airlines and even train fares if that is what they took as well as cover the expenses for routing to their original destination if they were offered alternatives to other airports.

Looks like this could be a time for those who have been denied these things with other airlines in the last few years to get their claims in quickly to these airlines and demand exactly the same that the CAA are forcing Ryanair into now and if the airlines don't reply send a letter to the CAA requiring them to take enforcement action.

Since the CAA are claiming these are the rules now, the other airlines do not have a leg to stand on and the CAA will have no excuse for not enforcing them to act like they are with Ryanair.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 21:57
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I have claimed my refund! Can I still get Ryanair to book my two return flights with Easyjet?

Does any member have the appropriate legislation to hand so that I can provide proof when I liaise with Ryanair?
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 22:04
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Originally Posted by BigFrank
Cf: "employees" who work for them but are not legally employed and so aren't employees after all. Despite wearing the uniform and flying the plane?

Wonderful place to work (though not as an employee) or receive distributions of funds (though not dividends) this EU, in'nit?
Can you tell me of a single company where employees receive dividends because they are employees ?
There isn't one.
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 22:08
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Originally Posted by BigFrank
Just the same as the Germans had no issues with Angela's open borders policy?

Well till last Sunday they didn't.
Still largest part and both ruling partys lost seats.
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