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Old 27th Sep 2017, 12:54
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Originally Posted by owenc
So what is going to happen to these routes then?

And if they had rostering issues, why would they target their high demand routes?
Surely this is just the first wave of Brexit impacts that Ryanair has been indicating. An Irish Airline operating domestic routes in the UK (outside the EU) - in the current Brexit situation, most of these flights would be unlikely to continue after March 2019, irrespective of the crew shortage. Not a surprise they are cut now.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 13:09
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Flitefone.....Again supposition only & not reflecting a true grasp of situations....
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 14:37
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Full list of Ryanair's 34 suspended routes for winter 2017/18 scheduled.

Bucharest – Palermo
Chania – Athens
Chania – Pafos
Chania – Thessaloniki
Cologne – Berlin (SXF)
Edinburgh – Szczecin
Glasgow – Las Palmas
Hamburg – Edinburgh
Hamburg – Katowice
Hamburg – Oslo (TRF)
Hamburg – Thessaloniki
Hamburg – Venice (TSF)
London (LGW) – Belfast (BFS)
London (STN) – Edinburgh
London (STN) – Glasgow
Newcastle – Faro
Newcastle – Gdansk
Sofia – Castellon
Sofia – Memmingen
Sofia – Pisa
Sofia – Stockholm (NYO)
Sofia – Venice (TSF)
Thessaloniki – Bratislava
Thessaloniki – Paris (BVA)
Thessaloniki – Warsaw (WMI)
Trapani – Baden Baden
Trapani – Frankfurt (HHN)
Trapani – Genoa
Trapani – Krakow
Trapani – Parma
Trapani – Rome (FIU)
Trapani – Trieste
Wroclaw – Warsaw
Gdansk – Warsaw
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 14:48
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Originally Posted by Flitefone
Surely this is just the first wave of Brexit impacts that Ryanair has been indicating. An Irish Airline operating domestic routes in the UK (outside the EU) - in the current Brexit situation, most of these flights would be unlikely to continue after March 2019, irrespective of the crew shortage. Not a surprise they are cut now.
How come most of the suspended routes are EU - EU?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 14:54
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Ryanair to cancel another 400,000 bookings
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:08
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the way this is going I don't see Ryanair being around next year, the reputational damage has to be getting pretty close to being terminal, other airlines that can cover the routes that they are cancelling must be rubbing their hands in glee.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:19
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I feel very sorry for the crew. Many of these routes, and there will be more to come, are from small bases. Crews will go without work = pay or they will have to move across Europe to find dribbles & scraps of work for 6 months, all at their own cost. Not happy bunnies.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:22
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Ryanair could bounce back from almost any reputational crisis. They appear immune
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:26
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A big risk to them is that they lose the business travel they've worked hard to develop, and with it the yields from last minute bookings and premium 'upgrades'. For example, the cuts go beyond these route cancellations (many of which to be frank no one else would operate anyway). It's frequency reductions that might cost them, e.g. STN-FRA is now once daily some days, STN-CPH is sometimes twice daily.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:48
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Ryanair could bounce back from almost any reputational crisis. They appear immune
Indeed, critics are loud, but success is louder.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:55
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Was BFS LGW not recently said to the busiest domestic route ? EZY will be happy bunnies having it back to themselves ! ( I know EI fly BHD LGW )
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:57
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London (LGW) – Belfast (BFS)
What a supraise though this route was doing very well but as per usual the pax speaks louder that words
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 16:08
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Ryanair had no choice in closing down some routes and frequencies if you calculate the total amount of cancelled flights added to the suspended routes and frequencies it's a huge number and what ever they call it these all add up to cancelled flights.

But again if anyone is looking for a winter sun holiday over autumn winter spring I doubt they will risk booking Ryanair when there seems no end to this crisis but I guess taking a chance on a last minute weekend away for a tenner you got nothing to loose

But I have to agree this is hurting Ryanair more than anyone knows and is helping the likes of jet2 easyJet and the charters that Ryanair took a chunk of.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 16:21
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Ryanair shares up 2.5% in afternoon trading...As Sober Lark states critics are loud but success is louder.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 16:24
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It must be getting real bad

Ryanair has pulled out of bidding for rival Alitalia, saying it needed to “eliminate all management distractions”
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:04
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Yup the City liked that statement...Perhaps tho RYR were looking for a convenient exit having played the part of "disruptor" & knowing full well an Italian Government & unions would never allow ceding control of the national airline to MOL..
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:11
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I don't think that the list of cancelled routes published today is complete because my flights to/from Copenhagen from Edinburgh in November have just been cancelled. Luckily I managed to rebook on Norwegian. Never flown with them before but they look to be a good alternative for future flights as well. Be glad to hear of any others with experience of flying with them.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:12
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Originally Posted by fatmanmedia
the way this is going I don't see Ryanair being around next year, the reputational damage has to be getting pretty close to being terminal, other airlines that can cover the routes that they are cancelling must be rubbing their hands in glee.
Hardly

Pulling back on expansion to consolidate what they have.

Despite the media crap it has taken ages to respond they have acted decisevely and quickly.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:14
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Ryanair could bounce back from almost any reputational crisis. They appear immune
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Thye aren't but they understand they were being distracted and have acted accordingly.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:17
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Originally Posted by daz211
It must be getting real bad

Ryanair has pulled out of bidding for rival Alitalia, saying it needed to “eliminate all management distractions”

When succesful companies lose focus it can be damaging.................. getting rid of distraction is best option as even if they bought it there would be significant management time required to turn it around.
Sticking to the knitting is the appropraite expression for a reason.
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