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Indeed but the problem is there is a pile load of people in the British Media who are treating this very different because it's Ryanair and have it in for them, some of which have already been sued before for printing untruths about Ryanair.
If the exact same happened with another airline it would get very little coverage, the amount of flack Jacobs has got in the Mail and the invasion of his privacy however is pretty disgusting.
If the exact same happened with another airline it would get very little coverage, the amount of flack Jacobs has got in the Mail and the invasion of his privacy however is pretty disgusting.
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The actual effect has probably been felt by something like 100,000 UK citizens, and every UK citizen that had a Ryanair booking in the next few months has suffered fear. Newspapers don't often get to print a story about something that's affected that many people!
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BA was a much bigger scale than this as far as UK flights are concerned.
How many UK flights are Ryanair cancelling a day? About 10? How many were BA cancellng a day? A whole schedule of hundreds.
How much notice did those BA customers get? A day or two. How much notice did Ryanair fliers get? Up to six weeks.
How many BA flyers could transfer to an alternative flight the same day? None How many Ryanair can? A lot.
If you add up all the UK flights BA have cancelled this year it's still going to be higher than Ryanair by the end of all this, but lets not let that get in the way of a good media witchhunt.
How many UK flights are Ryanair cancelling a day? About 10? How many were BA cancellng a day? A whole schedule of hundreds.
How much notice did those BA customers get? A day or two. How much notice did Ryanair fliers get? Up to six weeks.
How many BA flyers could transfer to an alternative flight the same day? None How many Ryanair can? A lot.
If you add up all the UK flights BA have cancelled this year it's still going to be higher than Ryanair by the end of all this, but lets not let that get in the way of a good media witchhunt.
Word on the street that Ryanair's lawyers are going to start proceedings against some of the media and the press in the upcoming days for some of the ridicolous things that have been printed in the media, the fabrications and the outright lies.
There's been people claiming they were treated badly and had their flights cancelled between airports that Ryanair don't serve, photos claiming to show things on Ryanair aircraft which are not even 737s just to mention a few things.
There's been people claiming they were treated badly and had their flights cancelled between airports that Ryanair don't serve, photos claiming to show things on Ryanair aircraft which are not even 737s just to mention a few things.
Really? Apart from through insolvency the only airline that has ever had problems on a similar scale has been BA and the press certainly haven't ignored it when it's happened!
The actual effect has probably been felt by something like 100,000 UK citizens, and every UK citizen that had a Ryanair booking in the next few months has suffered fear. Newspapers don't often get to print a story about something that's affected that many people!
The actual effect has probably been felt by something like 100,000 UK citizens, and every UK citizen that had a Ryanair booking in the next few months has suffered fear. Newspapers don't often get to print a story about something that's affected that many people!
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I agree the drip feed was not good - but I suspect some of that was down to the fact they realised the problems so late that they had to cancel any flight in the first few days to be able to cope since they didn't have time to work out a more sensible plan of action that would effect customers the least like they did with the later cancellations.
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There was one massive problem with this.
Jacobs wasn't at the press conference.
But why let the facts get in the way.
Indeed but the problem is there is a pile load of people in the British Media who are treating this very different because it's Ryanair and have it in for them, some of which have already been sued before for printing untruths about Ryanair.
If the exact same happened with another airline it would get very little coverage, the amount of flack Jacobs has got in the Mail and the invasion of his privacy however is pretty disgusting.
If the exact same happened with another airline it would get very little coverage, the amount of flack Jacobs has got in the Mail and the invasion of his privacy however is pretty disgusting.
Media buying arm always changes it because when some see the £1 million campaign that excludes their newspaper they get the message.
MOL refusing to kowtow to UK media makes them angry as doesn't he know who they are.
Problem is that he does which is why he ignores them.
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Ok, a large number of people and far more than affected by the normal news story.
The day I looked at may not have been representative, but on it more than half the flights involved the UK, and we might guess that about half the people on those flights were British (I know some will have more people from abroad than others, but on the other hand don't try telling me that there's a lot of Spaniards flying from EMA to Palma at this time of year :-D )
The day I looked at may not have been representative, but on it more than half the flights involved the UK, and we might guess that about half the people on those flights were British (I know some will have more people from abroad than others, but on the other hand don't try telling me that there's a lot of Spaniards flying from EMA to Palma at this time of year :-D )
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But I have seen a Facebook feed with people sharing stories about cancellations and worrying about their short breaks (not one person I know has actually had a flight cancelled by anyone other than EasyJet in this period, but that's by the by; the fear and the bad press are there and causing harm).
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Of course, it won't do any real damage, but my point is this shows the way the British Media are, it's not about printing facts it's all about having it in for people who they don't like and facts need not necessarily get in the way of that.
But I have seen a Facebook feed with people sharing stories about cancellations and worrying about their short breaks (not one person I know has actually had a flight cancelled by anyone other than EasyJet in this period, but that's by the by; the fear and the bad press are there and causing harm).
That's before you take into account the many strikes that have took place over the years in other airlines and IT problems etc that has grounded whole schedules for days.
As I've said even after this is finished Ryanair still probably won't be anywhere near the top of the stats of % of flights cancelled in this calendar year, but the media would have you believe that they are unreliable and more likely to cancel than anyone else.
Ok, a large number of people and far more than affected by the normal news story.
The day I looked at may not have been representative, but on it more than half the flights involved the UK, and we might guess that about half the people on those flights were British (I know some will have more people from abroad than others, but on the other hand don't try telling me that there's a lot of Spaniards flying from EMA to Palma at this time of year :-D )
The day I looked at may not have been representative, but on it more than half the flights involved the UK, and we might guess that about half the people on those flights were British (I know some will have more people from abroad than others, but on the other hand don't try telling me that there's a lot of Spaniards flying from EMA to Palma at this time of year :-D )
Southern Railways strike ?
London Euston fire last week ?
Tube Strikes ?
The good news is that things like this (if it's true) may have less effect than you think. I first found out about this from you right now and had never seen the story or heard of the man.
But I have seen a Facebook feed with people sharing stories about cancellations and worrying about their short breaks (not one person I know has actually had a flight cancelled by anyone other than EasyJet in this period, but that's by the by; the fear and the bad press are there and causing harm).
But I have seen a Facebook feed with people sharing stories about cancellations and worrying about their short breaks (not one person I know has actually had a flight cancelled by anyone other than EasyJet in this period, but that's by the by; the fear and the bad press are there and causing harm).
Reality is most will NOT have anything booked and will not be effected in the slightest.
However their claim to fame will be people reading their crap on facebook.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...1-ryanair-agm/
Ryanair bases in Dublin, Barcelona, Stansted and Shannon have joined colleagues at over 50 other bases in rejecting the airline's proposals for pay increases and bonuses in exchange for giving up annual leave to alleviate the staffing crisis.
It is understood that pilots at 55 of Ryanair's 86 bases have now turned down the deal - raising the prospect of conflict looming between management and staff at the airline.
It is understood that pilots at 55 of Ryanair's 86 bases have now turned down the deal - raising the prospect of conflict looming between management and staff at the airline.
However, Mr O'Leary has ruled out any change to the airline's contractor model based on hiring a significant number of staff through agencies or alternative arrangements rather than as direct employees.
Pilots were offered the bonus in exchange for working an additional 10 days to plug a shortage that last week forced Ryanair to cancel over 2,000 flights in September and October.
Pilots at London Stansted, Dublin, Frankfurt and Berlin have now been offered an additional €10,000 a year, Michael O'Leary said.
Pilots were offered the bonus in exchange for working an additional 10 days to plug a shortage that last week forced Ryanair to cancel over 2,000 flights in September and October.
Pilots at London Stansted, Dublin, Frankfurt and Berlin have now been offered an additional €10,000 a year, Michael O'Leary said.
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I grant you that it was operated by Eirjet rather than Ryanair
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Indeed but the problem is there is a pile load of people in the British Media who are treating this very different because it's Ryanair and have it in for them, some of which have already been sued before for printing untruths about Ryanair.
If the exact same happened with another airline it would get very little coverage, the amount of flack Jacobs has got in the Mail and the invasion of his privacy however is pretty disgusting.
If the exact same happened with another airline it would get very little coverage, the amount of flack Jacobs has got in the Mail and the invasion of his privacy however is pretty disgusting.
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BA was a much bigger scale than this as far as UK flights are concerned.
How many UK flights are Ryanair cancelling a day? About 10? How many were BA cancellng a day? A whole schedule of hundreds.
How much notice did those BA customers get? A day or two. How much notice did Ryanair fliers get? Up to six weeks.
How many BA flyers could transfer to an alternative flight the same day? None How many Ryanair can? A lot.
If you add up all the UK flights BA have cancelled this year it's still going to be higher than Ryanair by the end of all this, but lets not let that get in the way of a good media witchhunt.
How many UK flights are Ryanair cancelling a day? About 10? How many were BA cancellng a day? A whole schedule of hundreds.
How much notice did those BA customers get? A day or two. How much notice did Ryanair fliers get? Up to six weeks.
How many BA flyers could transfer to an alternative flight the same day? None How many Ryanair can? A lot.
If you add up all the UK flights BA have cancelled this year it's still going to be higher than Ryanair by the end of all this, but lets not let that get in the way of a good media witchhunt.