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Old 13th Feb 2020, 08:39
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Isn't Carlisle also covered from NCL? And has the Eastern base left NCL?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Isn't Carlisle also covered from NCL? And has the Eastern base left NCL?
The Carlisle is a damp lease. Aircraft and flight deck are from an Estonian carrier called NyxAir. Cabin crew are Loganair, based from Newcastle. From what I remember, CAX is a temporary contract (2 years I think). Which is why LM wonít have their own base there. They want as few bases as possible, as maintenance of their ageing fleet is much cheaper and easier.

I didnít think Eastern were pulling out of NCL, just going down from 2 to 1 aircraft, and just doing 1 ABZ per day. But this was a few weeks ago, so plenty could have changed since then. The NCL-ABZ must be dead in the water for Eastern with Loganair on the patch, so I reckon they may as well fully pull out of NCL and go to MME where there is no competition (and no disrespect, but nobody to compare their poor reliability with).
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Correct, NCL - ABZ down to 1 per day but operated by an ATR72
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Correct, NCL - ABZ down to 1 per day but operated by an ATR72
Ah, that makes sense. In that case, it sounds like a full Eastern base closure of Newcastle, as the ATR is ABZ based.

Still, having seen some of their loads, a Jetstream 41 was massively oversized. Never mind an ATR.
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If you're thinking the LM base at Newcastle won't be there for long, I'm pretty sure time will prove you wrong. Brussels, Stavanger and soon Bergen and Newquay are all routes that you could not easily fly from NCL without a base. The issue with NWI was that the two routes of ABZ and EDI were both to existing Loganair bases. There's just no comparison between the two.
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Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I've seen reports that the three Eastern E190s are ex Flybe, but Flybe operate 195s and the press release seems to be quite clear about 190s, can anyone clarify? Ta
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 21:38
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Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist
Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I've seen reports that the three Eastern E190s are ex Flybe, but Flybe operate 195s and the press release seems to be quite clear about 190s, can anyone clarify? Ta
Try G-FBEI, G-FBEJ and G-FBEK
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So, E195s then.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 09:59
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E195s Wonder if these might appear in the Teesside master plan for holiday flights.
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And perhaps the reason for confusion is that the correct technical designation for these "E195s" is ERJ-190-200LR. For verification see G-INFO, where Embraer 195 is shown as the Popular Name..
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
E195s Wonder if these might appear in the Teesside master plan for holiday flights.
Certainly the right size aircraft to fill at good yields. More than enough range and comfort for the Spain runs.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 12:37
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Certainly the right size aircraft to fill at good yields. More than enough range and comfort for the Spain runs.
Only if the Mayor's pockets are deep - 195 won't be able to operate at the prices locals will want to pay.

Also, am I right in that the 195 can't do LCY? If so, that rules out the CFE rumour.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 13:19
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Certainly the right size aircraft to fill at good yields. More than enough range and comfort for the Spain runs.
Haven't Flybe already tried that with the very same aircraft?!
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 13:26
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I guess time will tell wherever Eastern Airways decide to base there 170/190's

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Originally Posted by Flightrider
Haven't Flybe already tried that with the very same aircraft?!
not sure of yield but the BE lease charges were through the roof!
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
not sure of yield but the BE lease charges were through the roof!
A common misconception. The lease rates were through the roof on the 175's. The 195's are just an expensive aircraft to operate. 175 operating costs weren't that dissimilar to the Dash's.
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Old 17th Feb 2020, 02:13
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Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist
Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I've seen reports that the three Eastern E190s are ex Flybe, but Flybe operate 195s and the press release seems to be quite clear about 190s, can anyone clarify? Ta
Do you have a link to these reports?
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Originally Posted by BAladdy
Do you have a link to these reports?
https://www.easternairways.com/news/...-airways-fleet
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Old 17th Feb 2020, 08:11
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The E195's official designation is E190-200. Maybe that is the reason, because Eastern also uses the somewhat uncommon designation E170-100LR in its press release for the E170 (the E175 officially is the E170-200).
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What I find strange in that press release is the mentioning of ABZ - NWI which they no longer operate
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