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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 14:28
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Makes sense that Malaysian and Qatar have got spare aircraft available for charter.

Anyone know what sort of spare capacity BA and EasyJet will have in terms of charter?
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 14:41
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Makes sense that Malaysian and Qatar have got spare aircraft available for charter.

Anyone know what sort of spare capacity BA and EasyJet will have in terms of charter?
They don’t have any.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:06
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I’m not speculating anything but has anyone any idea what the 3 x 763 Eastern aircraft are doing in Shannon other than rescue flights for Thomas Cook. 2 one the ground and 1 en route as we speak, all 3 from Miami.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:14
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Most likely the CAA getting ready in case the negotiations fail. They did the same in 2016 when Monarch’s ATOL renewal was pushed to the line. It was slightly worrying to land in Palma de Mallorca to be greeted by a United B747 in case the ATOL license wasn’t renewed.

fortunately in 2016 all the aircraft flew back without having been put into action, at a great cost to the CAA. Lets hope that the same happens again this time round!
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Originally Posted by daz211
I’m not speculating anything but has anyone any idea what the 3 x 763 Eastern aircraft are doing in Shannon other than rescue flights for Thomas Cook. 2 one the ground and 1 en route as we speak, all 3 from Miami.
I’ve been in Shannon before when 767s have called in enroute to the Middle East carrying US troops.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:17
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https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-co...emand-11817027
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:21
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so nice to see, hope all turns out well.

sorry was ment to be a Facebook video, of a plane loads of passengers landing back in the UK on a Thomas Cook flight, all shouting we love Thomas cook, apparently crew in tears as passengers disembarked hugging crew members.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:35
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From Airlines . Net

The UK Civil Aviation Authority is on high alert to rescue Thomas Cook customers if the tour operator cannot be saved from collapse within 24 hours.

The CAA has held detailed conversations with a group of five airlines to rescue passengers, which includes:
  • British Airways
  • Virgin Atlantic
  • easyJet
  • German travel operator Tui
  • Jet2
Thomas Cook Group is meeting its biggest shareholder and creditors since 9am in last-ditch talks to avoid collapse.

I don’t see how this is going to help other than fill spare seats on existing flights.

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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:37
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
They don’t have any.
Exactly what i thought, and then i was wondering how BA and EZY were able to do it the last time around?
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:38
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Originally Posted by CEJM
Most likely the CAA getting ready in case the negotiations fail. They did the same in 2016 when Monarch’s ATOL renewal was pushed to the line. It was slightly worrying to land in Palma de Mallorca to be greeted by a United B747 in case the ATOL license wasn’t renewed.

fortunately in 2016 all the aircraft flew back without having been put into action, at a great cost to the CAA. Lets hope that the same happens again this time round!
I believe Monarch picked up the tab for that 2016 contingency.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:40
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Originally Posted by ivor toolbox
erm, isn't that the one they've just acquired from Singapore Airlines, needs to have the interior reconfigured etc before going into service? As Singapore want their premium cabin stuff back.

Ttfn
HiFly have been operating an ex-Singapore A380 for a while now, complete with former SQ interior. I don’t believe Singapore Airlines want their cabin back. A few of their ex planes fly with these sort of airlines with the old cabins.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:41
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Originally Posted by ScotsSLF


Mods - this troll needs dealt with
If trying to be optimistic is trolling ,then yes guilty as charged ...
And i’m still optimistic a deal can be done , Hopefully the repercussions of not doing so will concentrate minds today
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:41
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Originally Posted by Rushed Approach
I believe Monarch picked up the tab for that 2016 contingency.
To be honest Rushed Approach, I have no idea if the bill was picked up by MON or not.

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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:46
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Doc Q, why do you have to resort to insults? The only one calling other posters a moron or pr*ck is you. It fair enough that you don’t agree with their opinion but does it really warrant calling people names on an anonymous forum?

If you really want to be such a ‘Big Boy’ then call people morons or pr*cks whilst posting under your real name!
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:47
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At the end of day the CAA can organise as many aircraft as they wish to be on standby it’s not going to influence the outcome of the talks today and only means the CAA are prepared for the worse IF it occurs
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:48
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Originally Posted by CEJM
Doc Q, why do you have to resort to insults? The only one calling other posters a moron or pr*ck is you. It fair enough that you don’t agree with their opinion but does it really warrant calling people names on an anonymous forum?

If you really want to be such a ‘Big Boy’ then call people morons or pr*cks whilst posting under your real name!
Yes your right ....Post amended
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:50
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Doc Q, thank you!

If you got any skin in this game then I feel for you and all your colleagues.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:54
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There is no need for name calling and arguing, an opinion is an opinion and we all have them, if you don’t like someone’s opinion don’t forget they are entitled to have one.

what we all need to remember, emotions are high and for good reason but nothing said, true or not on this site will change the outcome of this situation.

also worth say, our friendly plane enthusiast have more information than us in the business sometimes, so let’s all calm down a bit and have some self respect and be respectful to others.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 15:55
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Testing times for all , however i really do think a last minute reprieve is on the cards
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 16:13
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Originally Posted by Doc Q
Testing times for all , however i really do think a last minute reprieve is on the cards
I truly hope so but with that, changes will have to made and fast, drastic changes and a total overhaul of the company will be the only way Thomas Cook won’t find itself in the same predicament this time next year or sooner.

What is actually owned, airframe wise by Thomas Cook?
Could a quick fire sale of some metal not save the day ?
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