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Old 11th May 2020, 17:08
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Originally Posted by Rutan16 View Post
No US flights are carrying passengers period
donít know if you meant only BA, but today the UA15 had 20 pax(plus 2 SBY upgraded pax) and UA928 had 16 + 2 SBY pax.
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Old 11th May 2020, 17:43
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Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled View Post
don’t know if you meant only BA, but today the UA15 had 20 pax(plus 2 SBY upgraded pax) and UA928 had 16 + 2 SBY pax.
This is correct, the passenger flights appear on the flights departures/arrivals pages, the cargo flights, even the ones using passenger BAU flt nos, do not. United have just recently reintroduced ORD from a cargo only service alongside EWR which didn’t stop.
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Old 11th May 2020, 18:10
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Originally Posted by Rutan16 View Post
Emirates are operating a single odd day flight with inbound passengers ONLY. All others are freight with passenger aircraft and all outbound Nil passengers at the moment.

Yes BA/IB/EI are operating a very limited scheduled of close EU and one or two Domestics .

No US flights are carrying passengers period

El-AL are operating a very ad-hoc service primarily freight however there is some traffic (Israelis ) back to Tel- Aviv - subject to very strict 14 day self isolation on entry

THY- Turkish are ALL freight on passenger aircraft

And lets just get real an airport the size and importance of Heathrow to the national economy 15,000 is an exceptionally small amount - To use metaphor it equates to somewhere like Liverpools typical traffic levels.

BA operated at least 5 US flights with passengers on today and have been doing daily. LAX BOS IAD ORD and JFK all the other US flights are freighters. NBO SIN PVG PEK TLV one of the HKGs all freighters. EZE ATQ and LOS positioned as repatriation flights.
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Old 11th May 2020, 19:21
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Originally Posted by spacedog View Post
BA operated at least 5 US flights with passengers on today and have been doing daily. LAX BOS IAD ORD and JFK all the other US flights are freighters. NBO SIN PVG PEK TLV one of the HKGs all freighters. EZE ATQ and LOS positioned as repatriation flights.
Where do you get your info from? As far as I know all BA USA flights are cargo only. They retain their Pax flight numbers but the cabins are filled with cargo. Have you a source for the Pax numbers you refer to?
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Old 11th May 2020, 19:27
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A close family friend an SFO on EK has now completed an EK landing at all UK airports on the EK 777 fleet pax and pax/freight.
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Old 11th May 2020, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Cloud1 View Post
Where do you get your info from? As far as I know all BA USA flights are cargo only. They retain their Pax flight numbers but the cabins are filled with cargo. Have you a source for the Pax numbers you refer to?
I was working on one of the flights today. Some flights to the US are carrying passengers US citizens or US residents only.
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Old 12th May 2020, 06:15
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Originally Posted by Trinity 09L View Post
A close family friend an SFO on EK has now completed an EK landing at all UK airports on the EK 777 fleet pax and pax/freight.
Not sure what is meant by this, but last EK flight in to NCL was 24 March?
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Old 12th May 2020, 06:27
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Originally Posted by Trinity 09L View Post
A close family friend an SFO on EK has now completed an EK landing at all UK airports on the EK 777 fleet pax and pax/freight.
I think he maybe laying it on a bit thick by saying ďall UK airportsĒ
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Old 12th May 2020, 07:37
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Maybe lost in translation..he possibly has just completed the Heathrow missing link.He had done the others previously?
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Old 12th May 2020, 07:39
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He is not one to lay it on thick, all UK airports, that are or were being served by the EK777 fleet, and the 777 is in more use at LHR.
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Old 12th May 2020, 22:42
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Originally Posted by Rutan16 View Post
Emirates are operating a single odd day flight with inbound passengers ONLY. All others are freight with passenger aircraft and all outbound Nil passengers at the moment.

Yes BA/IB/EI are operating a very limited scheduled of close EU and one or two Domestics .

No US flights are carrying passengers period

El-AL are operating a very ad-hoc service primarily freight however there is some traffic (Israelis ) back to Tel- Aviv - subject to very strict 14 day self isolation on entry

THY- Turkish are ALL freight on passenger aircraft

And lets just get real an airport the size and importance of Heathrow to the national economy 15,000 is an exceptionally small amount - To use metaphor it equates to somewhere like Liverpools typical traffic levels.
BA are operating plenty of flights with pax onborad, not just EU, albeit the numbers are limited.
US carriers are also carrying fare paying pax, but of course only US Citizens or alien residents due current legislation.
All US carriers are currently selling seats for their UK flights, albeit limited and costly in some cases.

15K is a small amount but the 'public' seem to be under some misapprehension that flights have stopped altogether.
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Old 12th May 2020, 22:48
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
Today between 5am and 11.30am I saw 52 flights going into LHR, they all seemed to be passenger aircraft, surely they cannot all be repatriation, cargo flights ? Or is this a sign that air travel is trying to re-start. By comparison my local airport Edinburgh (nothing compared to Heathrow in size or capacity I admit) only saw 3 passenger flights ! during the same time period

They were:-
BA..... JFK x3, Washington, Nairobi, Chicago x3, Miami, Toronto, LAX, Atlanta, San Fransisco, Dallas, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Aberdeen
Aegean..... Athens
Aer Lingus.... Belfast, Dublin
Air Canada.... Toronto x2, Vancouver
Air China..... Shanghai
Air India.... Delhi
Air Malta.....Luqa
Alitalia.....Rome
American Airlines.....Dallas, Miami
Cathay Pacific.... Hong Kong
ELAL......Tel Aviv
Emirates..... Dubai
Etihad.....Abu Dhabi
Eurowings.... Dusseldorf
Finnair.... Helsinki
Gulf Air..... Bahrain
KLM..... Amsterdam
Lufthansa.....Frankfurt
Qatar..... Doha x3
Swiss... Zurich
THY....Istanbul
United..... JFK, Chicago x2
Virgin..... JFK x3
LHR in normal times serves just under 200 destinations/90 countries. Most of those are still seeing flights, but with a reduced frequency. Extra flights are also operating from additional places in the US/China for example.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 08:13
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What disadvantages would it have brought to airlines or anyone else if the LHR curfew were extended to 07:00 while the airport is so little used? Is it just they don't want residents of West London to get used to sleeping with the windows open?
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 08:18
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Originally Posted by c52 View Post
What disadvantages would it have brought to airlines or anyone else if the LHR curfew were extended to 07:00 while the airport is so little used? Is it just they don't want residents of West London to get used to sleeping with the windows open?
It would risk the residents or other groups then trying to make 7am being the permanent curfew lifting time. "If you managed in April, then you can do it in October" etc...
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 08:42
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What disadvantages would it have brought to airlines or anyone else if the LHR curfew were extended to 07:00 while the airport is so little used? Is it just they don't want residents of West London to get used to sleeping with the windows open?
The argument that's usually advanced by the airlines is that it would cause problems at the origins of the early-morning arrivals.

For example, the first arrivals this morning were from Hong Kong and Singapore. BA032 is due to depart HKG at 23:10 local time and arrive at LHR 04:50 (it landed just after 04:30).

Delaying the arrival of such flights at LHR by 1-2 hours would obviously necessitate delaying the departure from HKG/SIN/KUL/etc by a similar amount, which the airlines argue would be commercially unacceptable (and might also infringe night restrictions at some originating airports).

So that's why West London (and Windsor) residents continue to be woken from 04:30 onwards.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 09:01
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Except that flights from HKG & SIN also arrive around 18:00 in normal times, and with 0-2 flights per day, and (I guess) without passengers, it shouldn't matter if they choose those arrival times rather than the crack of dawn.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 12:01
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Except that flights from HKG & SIN also arrive around 18:00 in normal times, and with 0-2 flights per day, and (I guess) without passengers, it shouldn't matter if they choose those arrival times rather than the crack of dawn.
I'm struggling to remember when either BA or VS last had a schedule that involved pm arrivals from either HKG or SIN.

Looking at their timetables for this time last year:
VS207 HKG-LHR STA 04:30
BA032 HKG-LHR STA 04:50
BA016 SIN-LHR STA 05:05
BA028 HKG-LHR STA 05:30
BA012 SIN-LHR STA 05:50

Though VS does currently have an ad-hoc arrival from HKG at around 14:00 some days.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 17:36
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Am I reading this right, is Westjet applying for 56 slots at LHR ?

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...Report-NEW.pdf
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 18:33
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Originally Posted by goldeneye View Post
Am I reading this right, is Westjet applying for 56 slots at LHR ?

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...Report-NEW.pdf
Looks that way but non were allocated
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 07:42
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Any news on when Heathrow will go back to two runway ops? The NOTAM for single runway ops expires at 2359 on Tuesday and whilst there's been a trickle of new passenger services, daily movements are still below 300.
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