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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 13:11
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Thanks for the research & interesting article above...

One stat not mentioned 60,000 flew on the service...

Days after AA announced the forthcoming closure TWA confirmed it would start a STN ORD service via JFK commencing on 11.6.93,this plan became bound up in InterGovernmental politics between the USA & the UK & used also as a bargaining chip for the UK to gain rights for VIR to fly LHR-BOS.

Despite strong lobbying for the service from many quarters in the UK TWA`s plan was finally rejected by The British Secretary of State for Transport.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 13:57
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I remember the application made to the DOT by TWA regarding operating STN to ORD and I remember that Tower Air put in a similar application to fly from STN to JFK but as you say they got bound up in InterGovernmental politics.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 14:21
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Of course Tower Air they had slipped my mind...
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 23:07
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A question is who actually owns the slots.......... a Govt in need of revenue might well take them all over and auction them off to the highest bidder...............
There won't be any bidding if/when supply is greater than demand. There would be no need.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 14:59
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https://news.sky.com/story/stricken-hs2-contractor-carillion-in-urgent-fight-for-survival-11197537


This could be quite damaging.Lots of contracts at Heathrow are handled by Carillion.

Ps don't mention HS2
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 16:07
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"At Heathrow, we deliver facilities management services across Terminals 1, 2, 3 and 5. It’s a flexible and efficient delivery model that is better for business continuity."

We are one of the largest construction and support services companies in the UK aviation sector.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 17:23
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Been coming for a long time.

http://www.cityam.com/277892/carilli...es-during-2017
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 18:55
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Hi Guys

just wondering if there is any rumours of any new airlines aiming to serve LHR?

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Old 8th Jan 2018, 20:36
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You never know with Heathrow as it's usually the current airlines expanding their operations with purchased or leased slots from other airlines or those that are operating from Gatwick but the latest airline to start operating from Heathrow is Beijing Capital Airlines from Qingdao.
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 21:12
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http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15814820.leeds-bradford-airport-disappointed-as-british-airways-announces-flight-cuts-to-and-from-heathrow/
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 09:33
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Lack of demand.
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 10:52
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No night stopper and least useful schedule ever means no attempt at generating demand alas. This one remains a slot sitter until it's dropped or a night stop is trialled. This was announced a few weeks ago sadly.

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Old 9th Jan 2018, 11:24
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Yet i believe the passenger numbers were growing on it. In the end the winners will be KLM and possibly Aer Lingus.
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 12:22
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Likely case will be that the slots it frees up can go on more lucrative route. Maybe London Airlines have twigged that Yorkshire folk don't do posh and expensive in general
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Transport Committee

Monday 15 January 2018 Meeting starts at 4.45pm

Watch on Parliament TV Live (link below) then available afterwards via link:

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  • Subject: Airports National Policy Statement
  • Witnesses: Councillor Paul Hodgins, Leader of Richmond Upon Thames Council, Brendon Walsh, Chairman, and Joseph Carter, Chairman of the Transport sub-group, Heathrow Strategic Planning Group, Val Shawcross CBE, Deputy Mayor of London for Transport, and Alex Williams, Director of City Planning, Transport for London
  • Witnesses: Parmjit Dhanda, Executive Director, Back Heathrow, John Stewart, Chair, Heathrow Association for the Control of Aircraft Noise, and Stephen Clark, No 3rd Runway Coalition
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Old 15th Jan 2018, 16:01
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How on earth does self-appointed whinger John Stewart even manage to get invited to address Parliament ?
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 08:24
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Story in the Times that they're cutting 300 m off the length of proposed runway 3
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 10:37
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Yes, there are three runway options that are part of the consultation launched today. One is the originally-planned 3500m NW runway and the two others have 300m removed from either the eastern or western end (the consultation also makes reference to chopping a bit off both ends, though that's not quantified).

Whatever the length of the runway, it would have a hump in the middle - the thresholds would be at ground level, rising by between 3m and 5m where it passes over the M25.

Lots of other interesting stuff in the (29!) consultation documents, not least the different options proposed for realigning many of the local roads.

https://www.heathrowconsultation.com
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The backers of the “Heathrow Hub” rival Heathrow expansion scheme are considering legal action against the Government in the wake of the airport’s move to propose potential revisions to its plans. Heathrow Hub, fronted by former Concorde pilot Jock Lowe, has criticised the Government for allowing Heathrow to now consult on new ideas for its 3rd runway because this could change the eventual scheme from what was originally submitted and considered by the Airports Commission. Heathrow’s consultation (started 17th Jan, ends 28th March) is considering 3 different runway options, two of them for a 3,200 metres and one at 3,500 metres, slightly differently sited. This is in spite of the Government’s own documents on the expansion stipulating the need for a runway of “at least 3,500 metres”. Heathrow has to try to keep costs down, as its airlines are bitterly opposed to the cost of its proposals. The consultation also outlined potential plans for how to deal with the runway crossing the M25 motorway. Heathrow Hub said if it did launch legal proceedings, it would aim to get the money it spent submitting its proposals for expansion to the Government refunded. Heathrow airport said it thought that “providing some flexibility on the specification of the precise runway length would not undermine the NPS and its objectives”.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Navpi View Post
Heathrow’s consultation is considering 3 different runway options, two of them for a 3,200 metres and one at 3,500 metres, slightly differently sited.
All three runway options are on the same line.

The two shorter options are within the footprint of the original 3,500m runway plan - it's only the thresholds that are shifted (obviously) to give the different lengths.
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