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Old 8th Jun 2019, 12:58
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I'm more interested in the comment about the priority being to secure new holiday flights - good use of taxpayers money?
I guess holiday flights = volume and thats what the airport needs in the absence of a similar increase scheduled flights, more destinations and an airline /s interested in providing them.
Personally I'd like to see Jet2 there, taking some flights away from NCL and LBA.
Pipedream?
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 13:32
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The Mayors campaign to buy the airport was based on the need to connect local businesses to the world, with holiday flights being seen as a bonus. This is the first time I've seen holiday flights mentioned as a priority - a change of emphasis?
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 13:46
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
The Mayors campaign to buy the airport was based on the need to connect local businesses to the world, with holiday flights being seen as a bonus. This is the first time I've seen holiday flights mentioned as a priority - a change of emphasis?
Who's "need" I wonder?. The Airports, I guess. Has anyone heard any "local businesses" yelling out for more flights, due to their "need"?
Denigrate "bucket & spade" all you like, but it puts people IN the airport in the first place. Bums on seats, in the Cafe, Bar etc, such as they are.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 15:23
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Who's "need" I wonder?. The Airports, I guess. Has anyone heard any "local businesses" yelling out for more flights, due to their "need"?
There's been plenty wheeled out by the Mayor.

40 business leaders back plan to buy airport

As part of his election campaign the Mayor said that the airport had to be brought back into public ownership as there was a need to promote local industry and that foreign investors weren't interested if you couldn't fly there - holiday flights were very much seen as a secondary benefit.

Now they're being described as a priority. Nothing against Bucket and spade flights, but they're hardly boosting the local economy - the story seems to be changing.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 17:46
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I refer..as always the honourable gentlemen to my previous posts.


Holiday flights will not benefit the area..they are well covered?

The hub airports are also well covered....all the massive financial backing for the area would have been better spent on the general economy..infrastructure,transport and social needs.

oh sorry..let’s get a couple of hundred people off to Alicante and Bulgaria..wow..what a result??

No sorry..what a waste of a great chance to get the area back on its feet..
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 13:38
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April CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 12,603 - up 7% v prior year
Aberdeen: 1,638 - down 19%
Amsterdam: 10,804 - up 11%

Amsterdam shows year-on-year growth for the 19th month in succession and (at 114,092 passengers in the past year) is doing better than any time since 2008 . Aberdeen still down (due to the extra Loganair flights last year) but volumes have picked up and April was actually up on the same month in 2017.

Rolling 12 month passengers: 139,272
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 18:24
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Airport figures...Good slow progress ? Still only the two schedules from the airport though..been that way for...how many years?

see Lufthansa just announced Munich from Newcastle...makes you wonder..is DTV. In the market for such flights? If not why not?
rumours of a couple more from Newcastle...anything rumoured from the mayor s office from DTV.?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 19:16
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Quote from the Mayor after the launch of Heathrows Masterplan
Tees Valley Mayor Ben Houchen said: "Heathrow Airport is operating at 99.9 per cent capacity with zero landing slots available for domestic routes, so it is highly unlikely we’ll get a flight there anytime soon. We are, however, working flat out with Stobart to secure a flight into another London airport where there is capacity."
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 19:52
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So Stansted,Southend or Gatwick?

not sure what attraction , if any of those ,will have for the Teesside public.

no real connections..so point to point only?
with the improved!!! Trains from the area to London.....it’s Amsterdam,Aberdeen and Alicante then?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 20:59
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
So Stansted,Southend or Gatwick?

not sure what attraction , if any of those ,will have for the Teesside public.

no real connections..so point to point only?
with the improved!!! Trains from the area to London.....itís Amsterdam,Aberdeen and Alicante then?
I think the only way a non LHR London link would work is if it in some way includes an element of connecting traffic as it would be difficult to see how a point to point service will beat the train connection from Darlington. For this reason I can't see how SEN, STN and LTN would stack up.

LGW might be interesting and would open a lot of destinations that are not served directly from the North East & Yorkshire. BA & Virgin fly a lot of long haul leisure out of LGW plus Easyjet & Norwegian both have extensive LGW networks. LGW seem keen on developing connecting traffic with the launch of GatwickConnects, a service that insures against missed connections and the airport is also currently building a proper domestic connections area which will avoid both using bus gates and the need for a second security scan. However LGW is pretty slot constrained which means flying 80-100 seater aircraft into the airport does not appear to stack up financially.

Maybe FlyBe/Virgin Connect could be a possibility? They have the LGW slots and are clearly changing their business model to provide feed for LGW and MAN.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 21:49
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The only realistic London area airport with spare capacity right now has to be Southend. LCY will be too expensive, LTN and STN arenít exactly reknown for encouraging regional aircraft ops, plus are pretty much full at peak times.
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May CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 13,688 - up 13% v prior year
  • Aberdeen: 1,683 - down 18%
  • Amsterdam: 11,026 - up 20%
  • Jersey: 232 - up 7%
  • Lourdes: 747 - up 101%
Amsterdam shows year-on-year growth for the 20th month in succession and this was the best May on the route since 2004! Aberdeen still down but volumes have picked up recently and May was well up on the same month in 2017. Lourdes numbers are inflated as the return flights took place in June last year.

Rolling 12 month passengers: 140,839

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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 14:23
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looks like we might need a new thread title soon....

"Durham Tees Valley Airport WILL get new name as long-running wrangle ends"
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/durham-tees-valley-airport-new-16518521

Glad this is resolved but it sounds like Chris Joseph did not have a legal leg to stand upon.
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 15:16
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With all the conflict of opinions on here, it's nice to have something we can all celebrate! Welcome back Teesside International!
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 18:25
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Currency exchange and jewellery shop to open in the terminal.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...msACHIEVr3_8Bo
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 18:42
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Originally Posted by No-More-Bullschit
Currency exchange and jewellery shop to open in the terminal.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...msACHIEVr3_8Bo
A wonderful leap of faith.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 17:23
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 17:33
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Unsurprisingly passenger numbers don't you think as there is only one train service a WEEK ( outbound 11.00ish, inbound 12.00ish) on a SUNDAY. For goodness sake, what did tthey expect?
If the hoped for Airport expansion plans happen, and shock horror, there are even some bucket and spade flights, it might make sense for current non-stopping local trains to stop there IF a shuttle bus were available.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:00
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Is it viable to promote a train and bus service which only takes revenue away from your car park.
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I note that passenger numbers increased in 2018, halting an 11 year decline. At 142,000 it is still only one third of the passengers through Blackpool when they shut-up shop.
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