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Old 27th Jan 2019, 10:08
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Bmi baby, two based aircraft, at least Alicante, Majorca, Paris, Newquay and perhaps a Gatwick and Malaga. Was going to be increased to possibly up to five aircraft but things happened.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 11:16
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Bmi baby, two based aircraft, at least Alicante, Majorca, Paris, Newquay and perhaps a Gatwick and Malaga. Was going to be increased to possibly up to five aircraft but things happened.
Yep - Baby decided they could make more money at Cardiff.

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Old 27th Jan 2019, 11:59
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bmibaby ran Belfast and Malaga in 2003 (not sure when they started). They hugely expanded their operation in 2004 by adding Prague, Jersey, Nice, Alicante and Palma.

This was the bmibaby 2004 summer schedule:
  • Malaga - Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday
  • Prague - Tuesday, Sunday
  • Jersey - Saturday
  • Nice - Saturday
  • Alicante - Monday, Wednesday, Friday
  • Palma - Monday, Wednesday, Friday
  • Belfast International - Daily
Gatwick started on 30 October 2005. When they pulled the plug in September 2006, the routes were:
  • Cork
  • London Gatwick
  • Paris Charles de Gaulle
  • Alicante
  • Malaga
  • Palma

At the time, Heathrow was run by BMI mainline.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 12:11
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How does Bmi Baby compare to Flyglobespan.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 13:57
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Yep - Baby decided they could make more money at Cardiff.
and Birmingham

If memory serves bmibaby promised two based aircraft right from the off and then only delivered two w patterns to start with. Globespan differed in that they were exclusively bucket and spade, no city breaks etc
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 14:28
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So guys..when do we expect some firm(ish) news to be announced?

What are the time frames..if any?

If it is to be Stobarts..wonder if they will be more proactive than their Carlisle operations!!?
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 14:41
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Purchase completed by end of March, new operator to be announced before then followed by a transition period as Peel withdraw.

Stobart seem to be 'busy' on a number of fronts - be interesting to see what their capacity is for dealing with MME
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 22:22
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Passenger figures

A total of 139549 passengers passed through the terminal in 2018, a 9% increase over 2017. This is the first increase since 2006. However, Amsterdam has seemingly reached it's maximum potential, Aberdeen is declining again and Jersey has remained stagnant (future dependent on Flybe's own future) , so it's over to BH Air to provide the growth in 2019.
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 11:53
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Gunfighter52 That's a bit depressing, Amsterdam presume it could grow if promoted, perhaps up to an ERJ 190. Jersey seems to be almost fully booked so again with that could a larger aircraft be utilised on the route. As to new routes over to the Tees Valley Major or should that be Teesside Major!
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 15:01
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AMS did really well in 2018 - up 13% to 110,784 - the best since 2008. Over 10,000 pax used the route in both September and October, the first time the has occurred since October 2010. This of course was helped by KLM using running larger planes and potentially prices were adjusted slightly in order to fill the planes. However KLM's fares from MME are still much higher than from NCL which does point to customers (I guess business pax in the main) being prepared to pay extra for the convenience. Not sure we will be getting any larger planes anytime soon as the load factor is probably only about 75% in the best months (although the 6:00am flight is usually rammed in my experience). A target may be the NWI arrangement, they have about 140,000 pax a year on the AMS route, this also has the E175 but mainly on 4 weekday rotations. Teesside-Amsterdam did 120,000+ pax a year annually from 2003-2007.

I agree JER appears to be at capacity so it is either another rotation (hard to fill) or a bigger plane.

The uplift in passengers on the ABZ route during the period of the Loganair venture points to there being a clear demand but having seen off their competitor, Eastern now appear to be more focused on yields rather than passenger numbers.

Of course the mayor has been trying to manage expectations but when the acquisition is closed, the pressure will be in for him to deliver some new routes.
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 20:39
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That’s another thing on the Mayors shopping list...snow clearing equipment!

expensive business running an airport!
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 20:44
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This evening's Amsterdam flight KLM 1539 diverted to Newcastle. - (A/C is PH-EXJ)

Seemed to go direct to NCL without attempting to descend from 23,000ft overflying Teesside. ( ref.FR24)

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Old 1st Feb 2019, 21:11
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Airport closed until 2300 so he knew it was not practical to make an approach.
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 22:18
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Note to mayor, needed more snow equipment and staff to operate it.
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 05:22
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Note to mayor, needed more snow equipment and staff to operate it.
If the mayor reads his big book on managing an airport he'll find the question is how much income is lost by snow closures versuses the amount of taxpayers money that would have to be spent on staff and equipment to avoid them
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Today's KL1533 also diverted to NCL with KL1534 departing NCL to AMS at a delayed time of 13:00 - Busing passengers -possibly?
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 12:27
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Anyone care to come up with a “needed” list to bring the airport up to speed..post PEEL?

Will they take much with them when they depart..or maybe sell/lease back,at a cost of course!
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 17:13
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Just looking at the great DTVM( soon to be renamed!) site.What a depressing day at the airport movement wise.
It just shows how far it needs to go to even get a foot on the ladder?

As I repeat..it’s an expensive business running an airport!
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 15:46
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Parish Council Doris Jones showing her true colours about the airport and telling more lies, hope the new Mayor can take her aside and tell her to stick to more parish council stuff like dog mess. Note, no idea why the quote comes out like it does.
Cllr Doris Jones, Conservative ward member for Sadberge and Middleton St George, has been both a backer of the airport deal and a critic of the housing boom.

The veteran councillor said she didn't know anybody who'd bought a house in Middleton or Long Newton who hadn't considered they lived next to an airport.

Cllr Jones added: "I don't object to it to be honest. It's four minutes of a plane landing and taking off and then it's gone."

But training flights which used the airstrip for "touch-and-go" landings irked her more.

"If it's a trainee pilot, they shouldn't be doing it over the top of houses - that worries me more," said Cllr Jones.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 18:56
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Don’t think these views are too controversial?

Away from that council speak..wonder when concrete(pardon the pun..) announcements and plans will filter through?
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