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Old 19th Dec 2018, 07:16
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Originally Posted by skyman771
I think you have touched on the issue with a misquote, you can't increase profitability, as the airport has always made losses (at least in living memory...), i.e it has never been "profitable", so you have to address & stem the losses before anything else.
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It is not a misquote, profitability is a relative measure and can be negative as well as positive. Also, I used the word improve not increase.
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Old 19th Dec 2018, 08:46
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MMEMAN.... NCL does retain three flights per day to ABZ but one of them becomes part of the new LCY route.
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Old 19th Dec 2018, 21:48
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Back to the here and now - Eastern/Flybe Aberdeen, down to 2 flights a day Mon-Thu, and 1 flight on a Friday. Sunday flight looks to be on a based J41, up until the end of March 2019 (Humberside the same but not on a J41? and they lose the Sunday, but Newcastle who have historically been carrying a lot less passengers than both here and Humberside, keep the 3 flights a day)[/QUOTE]

Changes might be afoot on this - booking flights to Aberdeen again, and looks like the 3rd flight might be restored, but it is a HUY-MME-ABZ-MME-HUY type of operation for the 3rd flight.- different times depending on the day of the week.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 05:03
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This thread may have to be renamed shortly. Teeside Airport could be back.
Durham Tees Valley Airport to become Teesside International if Mayor's deal is approved
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 05:32
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Name change, there's the first few million gone!
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 17:41
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A fat return for Peel considering the 75% they bought for £500,000 in 2003 and a lot of public money flushed down the toilet by the mayor.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 17:42
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It’s ....Stobarts...the winner(potential). Operator of Teesside International Airports...

Oh well..Southend and Carlisle ,will provide the experience..
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 19:16
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One of the other whispered operators runs Coventry airport. No thank you.
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Old 21st Dec 2018, 18:26
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Originally Posted by tigertanaka
October CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 12,468 - up 10% v prior year
Aberdeen: 1,646 - down 32%
Amsterdam: 10,657 - up 26%

Best month on Amsterdam since April 2008. Aberdeen down due to the extra Loganair flights last year but in line with October 2016.

Rolling 12 month passengers: 140,971 - on course to be the best year for the airport since 2014 - still at a low base of course.
November CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 11,426 - down 4% v prior year
Aberdeen: 1,498 - down 51%
Amsterdam: 9,894 - up 19%

After two 10,000+ months, Amsterdam dropped slightly but last month was still the best November on the route for 10 years. Aberdeen down due to the extra Loganair flights last year but was also down on November 2016.

Rolling 12 month passengers: 140,556
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 21:31
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Teesside Airport pics - those where the days.

Some good photo's of years gone by. Muhammed Ali shown arriving at Teesside in 1977.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...spain-15567193

Merry xmas everyone
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 14:18
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Confirmation of payments to airport share holders.

The latest share confirmation statement has been published on the DTVA Ltd airport accounts. Large numbers of shares.
Different types of shares. It would appear Peel are paying themselves before any deal is done for a change in ownership
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

The full accounts are due end of the month.
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Beafer - the confirmation statement published at Companies House is a statement of the company's share capital. The number of issued shares in each class is exactly the same as it was in the same declaration 12 months earlier. There's been no change in the number of issued shares or the share structure of the company. How have you reached the conclusion stated in your posting above based on this information?
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 15:55
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How have you reached the conclusion stated in your posting above based on this information?
Because as usual he's barking up the wrong tree.
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 16:06
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Because he/she's an armchair idiot with no idea as to what a Confirmation Statement is or represents.
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 18:19
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It's so sad to see this airport reduced to this. For many years it was my local airport, that was after it ceased being RAF Middleton St George. My father and I used to go there to watch the Javelins and Hunters and then the Lightnings as well as all the transports toing and froing along with the Practice Divs. Then the RAF beefed it up and lengthened the runway to be a V Force dispersal. and my Dad said, "They're going to sell it" They did and it became Tees Side Airport with BKS and Dan Air flying schedules and Monarch and others doing charters from there.

Through the Aero Club we got very friendly with the Control Tower staff and would visit the tower every Tuesday and Thursday evenings and all Saturday afternoon. Len Taylor was SATCO and John Henderson took over when Len went to New Zealand.Schedules and charters galore and even managed a trip or two when TAROM and Bavaria were crew training on the BAC 1-11. BEA did all their BAC1-11 series 500 training at Tees Side and we spent many a happy hour watching them. British Eagle were regular crew training visits too with their Britannias and BAC 1-11s. Got a trip with them in a 1-11. Channel Airways operated their daily "Scottish Flyer" originating BOH or EXT (time clouds the memory) and stopping at various points up the country before terminating at ABZ, ISTR, and then back down again. Even managed to get on board the first Lockheed TriStar to visit Europe when it came in to do a sales pitch to someone or other. I remember it was HUGE in comparison and in Eastern Airlines colours. We even had a service to Luton by Autair, later to become Court Line. They were frequently late and I remember the local slogan went, "Time to spare? Go Autair".

This rambles a bit, but it's mostly coming out as I remember things from when I was a pre teenager as well as in my teens and as a young adult. I'm well into my sixties now so, bear with me.

I remember Dan Air operating services with Dakotas and Airspeed Ambassadors as well as BKS using Ambassadors and Britannias on scheduled services. The air terminal was a large Nissen Hut down by the Eastern Apron. I was allowed to walk out to the aeroplanes and help escort the passengers in. Because I was so well known, there wasn't really anywhere I wasn't allowed to go sometimes with escort but also without. The fire section was Auxilliary Fire Service with the infamous Green Goddesses and I was taught how to marshal aircraft by one of the fireman. A far cry from today, but this was in the early sixties. I didn't appreciate at the time what a huge privilege this was with so many people looking out for me and teaching me everything I could absorb at such an early age.

This led to my first job in aviation when one of my contacts from "The Good Old Days" told me British Midland were looking for a Traffic Officer. I applied and got the job, starting work at week ends while I served my notice elsewhere. They operated four MME-LHR rotations a day with the Viscount. Apart from the airport, which didn't do a lot of it, we were the only handling agent on the place and were kept busy with our own flights, Dan Air's HS748s, Air Anglia, Dan Air charter flights to the Canaries, Spain and Italy and even Air Spain with their Stretch DC8s did a charter series to somewhere or other I can't quite remember (I think it may have been TFS).

It was a far busier place then and can't believe the decline it has suffered. Even in my early days, NCL was always the Big Airport and the Bogeyman trying to steal all our traffic.

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Old 28th Dec 2018, 19:13
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Doctor Cruces, did you take any photographs that you can share?
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 19:22
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I remember Treffield Britannias crew training!
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 22:38
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Originally Posted by Flightrider
Beafer - the confirmation statement published at Companies House is a statement of the company's share capital. The number of issued shares in each class is exactly the same as it was in the same declaration 12 months earlier. There's been no change in the number of issued shares or the share structure of the company. How have you reached the conclusion stated in your posting above based on this information?
You are correct in mentioning they are the same number of shares, but aren't those shares paid a dividend, or am I mistaken? Isn't that what the confirmation is stating?
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Old 29th Dec 2018, 06:01
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It would appear Peel are paying themselves before any deal is done for a change in ownership
but aren't those shares paid a dividend, or am I mistaken? Isn't that what the confirmation is stating?
Supplying the statement is a legal obligation - it shows those shares which are entitled to be paid a dividend but doesn't give any indication as to whether a dividend has been paid, will be paid or any amount involved.

The statement for 2018 is the same as 2017 and 2016. Not sure what your point is?
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Doctor Cruces, did you take any photographs that you can share?
Had loads but lost them all when my father died. Evil Gold-digger step mother cleared everything of him and us out in no time flat. Didn't get a look in!!
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