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Old 2nd May 2018, 14:22
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Lets hope the next FOI reveals who signed the airport sale documents which Peel and the councils have been trying to hide for over a decade!
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Beefer - same question, where's anything new? Unless everybody's has missed it, there's no smoking gun in these documents.

Hindsight's a wonderful thing.
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Old 2nd May 2018, 15:25
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Hot news..... nice new carpet in the terminal!

Just read the comments in the Gazette, ranting loons is all I can see.

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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Hot news..... nice new carpet in the terminal!
Just to say that yesterday, I used the airport for the first time in a couple of months. Despite the automatic front doors still not fully working (or the alternate left/right doors switched off to keep the heat in the building?), I would say that the airport is looking really good at the moment. The check in area is modern and clean, there is a screen covering the entrance to the security screening area and the departure waiting area has been fully redecorated including new furniture.

The newly refurbished lounge now has some hot breakfast food (bacon, sausage, scrambled eggs) and now offers a range of spirits which I do not remember seeing before either.

Slight delay on departure caused by weather at Amsterdam but the staff kept everyone fully informed of what was going on.

A small airport like MME has to play to it's strengths. Turning up 45 minutes before departure, quick security and a decent lounge are the things that matter to me when I am travelling on business. Holiday flights are of course something else but my experience yesterday was very positive.
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Don’t like the prune set up....never mind.


interesting..yet again..times...PEEL stand accused..the councils stand accused..the travelling public stand accused(for not using the airport)we all stand accused..think I’m going to switch to train spotting!
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So Beafer asks this...
Wonder if thats why they kicked the large airline out to make the figures worse?
...gets explained this (for the umpteenth time)...
Peel had a based leisure airline ready and waiting to come in next summer (also not something you would pursue if you had aspirations to close the place!!), and judging by the timing of TUIs announcement of their summer 19 programme, it must have been them and they are about the only candidate, so not only does this line of argument no longer hold any weight whatsoever, it's downright stupid!
...and even the most dedicated of anti-Peel antagonists seem to understand this...
Peel moved away from charters because of a lack of volume (i.e. unprofitable) rather than they don't want charter business
...yet less than five hours later he still comes out with this:
By sending a large airline company packing saying they don't want that type of holiday business makes no sense at all
I have to wonder if he simply doesn't read posts that are not his own or if he's not quite a full schilling...and people wonder why he gets crucified on here
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Solicitors think again. Time for the government to look at the airport give away

And so it begins.
Solicitors acting for the other councils will be making a fortune advising councillors about latest FOI requests, and their involvement in the airport give away.

Comments by the public under the news piece say it all. Shredding tonight, and some wondering how do we dodge this one

Councils to reconsider releasing Durham Tees Valley Airport deal details | The Northern Echo

Looks like Peel / Tokenhouse will be coming under the spotlight and who in their right mind would agree to sale conditions which have been revealed in the press.
Why didn't the council tell their own lawyers to include a claw back clause if Peel made a hash of it, as Peel had the clauses about closing the airport if it wasn't viable, and the one about taking shares after 10 years if the councils didn't give them millions!!!.

In the press there are moves to use a compulsory purchase order on the old SSI steel site. Time for the Mayor to do the same with Durham Tees Valley Airport and send Peel and their favourite councillors packing.
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Short of putting barricades across the runway, can anybody think of a better way of putting off any potential new operators?
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In the press there are moves to use a compulsory purchase order on the old SSI steel site. Time for the Mayor to do the same with Durham Tees Valley Airport
And then what?
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Manston comes to mind, a closed airport decaying for years whilst this and that bitch over it!
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And eventually it'll finish up like Dunsfold - 1800 new houses announced this week......

Dunsfold decision greeted with delight | News | Farnham Herald
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Worrying times...no one knows what the future holds,but the reputation.of the airport already tarnished is about to be dragged through the mud.

PEEL with the best will in the world have not been the best landlords...the councils have a lot to answer for too...Beafer for mayor( who incidentally has been pretty quiet)!
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I think it is worrying times.. I am not sure what this is supposed to achieve? What do the the campaigners want to gain from these documents being made public? What is the benefit to the airport - I just cant see what it would be but I thought the Save Teesside Airport campaign was to save the airport - I can't see how that is going to be achieved by this - Is this how they are expecting the Mayor gets the airport - Peel being made to sell it back? How would that happen?

Talking about the Save Teesside Airport group on Facebook - wasn't that set up by someone who had a run in with Peel over the wind turbines at the Riverside?

Do we know for certain that the new flights are not happening for Summer 19? If that is the case and that is due to the Mayor not agreeing to the £500,000, then that is playing politics with the airport - What will happen to the £500,000 where else will it be spent? I won't see any difference in my pocket, but I might have been able to fly from here for my holiday..
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Well said mmeman! The whole thing is being blown out of all proportion. That's always been my gripe with the STA troublemakers; you don't save something by dragging its name through the dirt. Peel are not the enemy.
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Thousands of people want to fly from MME, they don't understand why they can't. Supposedly the recession is over, therefor the flights should have returned. Whose to blame, the councils, the Mayor, Peel or just not enough of the general public making complaints? To me it looks like all of the arguments are just going round in circles and nothing is happening, Leeds/Bradford and Newcastle must be rubbing their hands at what is going on, Surely all concerned must work together to turn things around at the airport.
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therefore the flights should have returned
Why should they? Not necessarily anybody to blame, it's a different world now as the airlines look to reduce costs and concentrate on their major bases.
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therefore the flights should have returned
people will still just go to wherever is cheaper.
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Old 4th May 2018, 16:25
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Originally Posted by mmeman
I won't see any difference in my pocket, but I might have been able to fly from here for my holiday..
And therein is the answer. Why should the Mayor pay £500k so you can drive a few miles less to go on your holiday? What economic benefit and how many jobs does you heading to Majorca for a week bring to the Teeside area?
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Why did Carlisle get millions recently and other local airports have had millions in grants from all over.
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Why did Carlisle get millions recently and other local airports have had millions in grants from all over.
Cos they did it properly? Anyway, MME has had it's share (new approach road, etc)
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