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Old 18th Mar 2018, 17:59
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The TOCs have remarkably little say in what they run (which makes a particular mockery of the suggestion that it was open to VTEC to make changes that meant it could start paying billions for running the franchise).

Middlesbrough will have six trains a day leaving King's Cross between 0700 and 2000, as this is what the train service requirement says it is to have!
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 02:08
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Originally Posted by canberra97 View Post
Your obviously not accepting the fact what others are trying to tell you that Superbreak have cancelled the majority of there departures from Teesside but have you not even bothered to check the Superbreak website to see for yourself if you had your notice that what others are telling you is the truth, only two departures from Teesside to Madeira and Seville, I even called Superbreak before I made this post to confirm it.

PR stuff will always say such things as selling fast or sold out, it means nothing just like DFS furniture sales, ''sale MUST end on Monday while stocks last''!
I had been checking the Superbreak website and noticed different package breaks listing appeared to removed at different times and I assumed that because the package breaks had sold out. i.e. Durham Tees Valley - Seville: Authentic Andalucía deal was only removed last week. yet others most others had been removed a long time ago. If Superbreak have cancelled package breaks it must be UK wide because package breaks have been removed for next few months from section of the website. Flights and Hotel Deals | Cheap Hotel and Flight Packages | SuperBreak
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 02:17
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Superbreak confirmed the following short breaks from Durham Tees Valley Airport
and all have been on sale on the Superbreak website in the section I linked on my last post and all have been removed at different times for different airports.
19.03.18 Seville: Authentic Andalucía break
23.04.18 Verona, Venice and Lake Garda
07.05.18 Florence, Pisa and Tuscany
25.05.18 Malta
16.11.18 Madeira
18.02.19 Iceland break
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 03:37
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Egglescliffe to London Kings Cross is operated by Grand Central and has 5 direct trains per day. Journey time is 02h 40m to 03h 03m.
Darlington to London Kings Cross is operated by Virgin Trains East Coast and has 31 direct trains per day. Journey time is 02h 23m to 03h 15m(Due to late night restrictions).


Plus there are many more indirect trains between the Tees Valley area and London which will get you into centre of London in under 3 hours.


London City might work but I'm not sure if the demand would be enough to support that route. Airlines must look at London's major transfer hubs Gatwick or Heathrow or forget about it. The likes of Southend / Luton / Stansted would be pointless. I would prefer Durham Tees Valley Airport to focus on overseas airports that can also be used as hub airport instead of the London hubs. i.e. Target Dublin, Paris, Barcelona or Madrid, Berlin or Munich.
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 13:13
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Originally Posted by JollyTraveller View Post
I would prefer Durham Tees Valley Airport to focus on overseas airports that can also be used as hub airport instead of the London hubs. i.e. Target Dublin, Paris, Barcelona or Madrid, Berlin or Munich.
All well and good. But they already have Schiphol, to which pax levels have dropped by 7.4% over the last two years. Is there really room for ANOTHER international hub?
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 15:38
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All well and good. But they already have Schiphol, to which pax levels have dropped by 7.4% over the last two years. Is there really room for ANOTHER international hub?

That is always going to be the risk. In the past the airport has successfully operated routes to multiple hubs at the same time.


But I think those airports would offer lot without the need to be like for like competition with Amsterdam/KLM. i.e. 1 return flight a day to Paris would add bit competition for KLM but would be mostly aimed at people wanting to be visitor the Paris area or North east area for business and leisure.


It would be interesting to see if the likes of Copenhagen could work from Durham Tees Valley Airport. Newcastle and Leeds Bradford seem to fall just short but with Durham Tees Valley being in middle it maybe able work as direct route and serve the North East area.
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 20:16
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Originally Posted by JollyTraveller View Post
That is always going to be the risk. In the past the airport has successfully operated routes to multiple hubs at the same time.


But I think those airports would offer lot without the need to be like for like competition with Amsterdam/KLM. i.e. 1 return flight a day to Paris would add bit competition for KLM but would be mostly aimed at people wanting to be visitor the Paris area or North east area for business and leisure.


It would be interesting to see if the likes of Copenhagen could work from Durham Tees Valley Airport. Newcastle and Leeds Bradford seem to fall just short but with Durham Tees Valley being in middle it maybe able work as direct route and serve the North East area.
My company would probably take 20 seats a week on a MME-CPH flight. We have a large business in the Nordics.
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 21:39
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Originally Posted by JollyTraveller View Post
That is always going to be the risk. In the past the airport has successfully operated routes to multiple hubs at the same time.


But I think those airports would offer lot without the need to be like for like competition with Amsterdam/KLM. i.e. 1 return flight a day to Paris would add bit competition for KLM but would be mostly aimed at people wanting to be visitor the Paris area or North east area for business and leisure.


It would be interesting to see if the likes of Copenhagen could work from Durham Tees Valley Airport. Newcastle and Leeds Bradford seem to fall just short but with Durham Tees Valley being in middle it maybe able work as direct route and serve the North East area.
AF and KL are the same company though
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 20:38
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Exeter and Flybe

A business trip to Exeter last week with a colleague.
Two return tickets from Newcastle with Flybe for 60% of what i was quoted for one return ticket to Aberdeen next week?

For the first time in 30 years of working in Aberdeen I am taking the train over the plane. Paying £360 plus airport fees and parking, for a 360 mile round trip is abhorrent, considering earlier this year this route was down to less than £200.
Its a complete Joke and an insult to the people who want to use their own airport.

Incidentally Exeter has a population a third the size of Teesside but boast daily flights to Amsterdam ,Paris , Dublin , London , Belfast , Manchester and Newcastle, not to mention holiday flights.
In total 18 cities. We are down to 2 which soon could be 1.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 06:04
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https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...tment-14437321

The Tees Valley Cyber College became the latest company to base its operations at the Middleton St George site.

The college is the first of its kind in the UK, and will provide support and training for companies across the region as concerns continue to grow over cyber attacks and crime.

Steve Gill, CEO of Peel Airports, which runs DTVA, said: “We see it as a great example of the potential for expanding the range of business activities at the airport, an important element in our business plans for maximising sources of revenue to support and develop aviation activities.”.

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Old 21st Mar 2018, 09:39
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Originally Posted by mcginty1 View Post
Incidentally Exeter has a population a third the size of Teesside but boast daily flights to Amsterdam ,Paris , Dublin , London , Belfast , Manchester and Newcastle, not to mention holiday flights.
But average earnings around Exeter are 10% higher than around Teeside, and median earnings over 20% higher. Around Teeside few are more than 40 miles from an alternative airport with service to European and holiday destinations and many live considerably closer, whereas Exeter is at least 65 miles with parts of its catchment such as Plymouth being over 100 miles from an alternative. I would also suggest Exeter has greater inbound tourism appeal.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 16:06
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I would also suggest Exeter has greater inbound tourism appeal.
Just do a google search and you will see more tourist attractions near DTVA than Exeter.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 17:55
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And those tourists are obviously not using Teesside Airport.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 17:58
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Originally Posted by N707ZS View Post
Just do a google search and you will see more tourist attractions near DTVA than Exeter.
The google search brings up a lot of ‘attractions’ of limited or very local interest to be honest. I’m fully aware of the big draws of the north, but the Jurassic Coast, Dartmoor and Cornwall are big hitters as well. As a neutral while I personally would go for the hiking opportunities of the Moors, I would suggest more people generally and especially overseas visitors from France, Germany, Netherlands etc would go more for the warmer weather and dramatic coast of the south-west.

Regardless, I refer you back to distance - Teeside has convenient alternatives whereas Exeter doesn’t. I don’t think DTVA has ever had a regular scheduled network to a number of cities?
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 18:00
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Glad the Exeter example was shot down; knew it was a terrible example but couldn't quite put it into words
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 06:06
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Grant named new Durham Tees Valley Airport chief - BQLive



David Grant has been named as the new managing director of Durham Tees Valley Airport.

David Grant, who has 30 years commercial experience, will assume responsibility for the commercial and operational performance of the airport.

Grant joined the airport three years ago, firstly as business development director and then as commercial director.

He had previously held a number of senior management roles in the airports industry, including as a director at Glasgow Prestwick Airport and managing a specialist aviation business.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 06:39
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What's the tree of command now then, who's job has he taken?
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 09:20
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Grant joined the airport three years ago, firstly as business development director and then as commercial director.

He had previously held a number of senior management roles in the airports industry, including as a director at Glasgow Prestwick Airport
Hmm, two questions:
1. How much 'business development' has there been at DTVA in the last three years?
2. Is Prestwick a successful airport?
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 14:40
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He's taken Steve Gills job, we appear to be getting our own hierarchy rather than shared with Doncaster.

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1) Lot's - There are a lot more businesses, aviation or otherwise, at the airport now than prior to three years ago
2) More so than when he must have been there than now that's for sure
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 14:51
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Impressive passenger figures for DTV.Finally published by the CAA!!

Growth in both the core areas.
Should continue into February although March will be hit by weather!
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