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Ups and downs
Just to add on the negative side Qatar now 29 March at the earliest and Ryanair Vienna the same. Although Austrian Vienna is not due back to the same date their website has it loaded from 2-11-2020 with prices but if you try to book it shows sold out - just maybe a final decision has not been made? Brussels Airlines is another thought not to be due back until summer still have 4 a week bookable from 12 October. Swiss rumoured to be 4 or 5 a week in winter are still showing 12 bookable in November.
Ryanair have cut around 23 flights a week in October which could have been a lot worse. Dublin down to 5 a week (from 10) and Palma 2 (down from 7) oddly the same as Reus (no change) both believed to carrying few unsurprisingly.
Jet2 although pushed back the city breaks other than Rome and Krakow which are operating now continue to add Antalya and Dalaman flights ending up 9 a week by the end of October and both increased to 8 a week from this weekend. Kefalonia remains the strangest, a new route for 2020 but canned only for it to start last week for 4 flights. They also added a 4th Corfu a week the extra starting today but of course it is the end of season and they all end mid October
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Ryanair have cut around 23 flights a week in October which could have been a lot worse. Dublin down to 5 a week (from 10) and Palma 2 (down from 7) oddly the same as Reus (no change) both believed to carrying few unsurprisingly.
Jet2 although pushed back the city breaks other than Rome and Krakow which are operating now continue to add Antalya and Dalaman flights ending up 9 a week by the end of October and both increased to 8 a week from this weekend. Kefalonia remains the strangest, a new route for 2020 but canned only for it to start last week for 4 flights. They also added a 4th Corfu a week the extra starting today but of course it is the end of season and they all end mid October
Pete
Fantastic day for freight with another smoky Joe just arrived (AN12) but also loads of other freight aircraft as well............and for the bad news and it was grim before the Turkey and Poland announcement
SAS Copenhagen ends 9th October
Brussels Airlines delayed 18 January 2021 once daily
Swiss delayed to 1st February - 4 a week increasing
Jet2 Faro ends Sunday planed to restart at the end of October
Jet2 Paphos reducing from 4 a week to 3 9th October. Potentially in November Jet2 will have twice weekly Rome, Venice for a few weeks and the Cypriot flights but LCA end mid month anyway, all of course if current restrictions remain and other city breaks don't start.
Airlineroute posted the Aer Lingus schedule for October and BHX was not listed for Dublin but the schedule has changed on their website and the 19 October is still showing as on sale but once daily at 21.00 departure but going double daily the following week
Loganair Aberdeen is now 5 a week with Wednesday the latest cut
Ryanair cuts started today
No doubt more to come over the next few days
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Random question - please feel free to move somewhere more appropriate.
Whilst twiddling my thumbs at work today, stumbled onto Google Maps' 3D setting. After exploring my golf course, and house, and estate, i navigated over to BHX. About 2 minutes later i spotted that there were precisely zero aircraft anywhere at the airport, with the exception of one GA plane over on the Elmdon apron. There did however appear to be a reasonable amount of cars parked up, both at the airport, the train station and at the NEC.
I'm curious - is BHX ever that quiet or is it a doctored image of some form (i.e. to remove 'adverts' by showing aircraft liveries)? When might such a picture be taken?
Even during covid times, presumably a few aircraft have been parked up. Timing wise, the images look to have been taken a year or so ago when major works were going on in the city centre. Interestingly, MAN is also almost empty, though LHR is packed to the rafter.
Whilst twiddling my thumbs at work today, stumbled onto Google Maps' 3D setting. After exploring my golf course, and house, and estate, i navigated over to BHX. About 2 minutes later i spotted that there were precisely zero aircraft anywhere at the airport, with the exception of one GA plane over on the Elmdon apron. There did however appear to be a reasonable amount of cars parked up, both at the airport, the train station and at the NEC.
I'm curious - is BHX ever that quiet or is it a doctored image of some form (i.e. to remove 'adverts' by showing aircraft liveries)? When might such a picture be taken?
Even during covid times, presumably a few aircraft have been parked up. Timing wise, the images look to have been taken a year or so ago when major works were going on in the city centre. Interestingly, MAN is also almost empty, though LHR is packed to the rafter.
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The 33 GP has been out of service since January 2018, over the last few months work on the drainage issues at the airfield have hopefully been resolved and on Friday 2nd October the 33 ILS was re-turned on at Cat 1 only. After 300 hours of it radiating and with no issues it will be up graded back to Cat IIIb standards
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Does anybody think the raft of VIRGIN flights from Manchester will effect Air India from Birmingham.
Whilst fares may be cheaper, quality of service, higher frequency and certainty of timings may well be a game changer.
Whilst fares may be cheaper, quality of service, higher frequency and certainty of timings may well be a game changer.
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Interestingly Air India did operate a Manchester service which was dropped. Traditionally the Indian market has always been BHX based and Manchester has a bigger Pakistani market. I think with the problems at PIA , I cant see them coming back to BHX but hopefully Air India can still make a go of it despite Virgins competition
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Air India / Turkish
Air India loads at BHX have always been excellent, so I don't see an issue with Virgin at all.
Turkish will use a B787-900 every Monday starting 19th - currently bookable every Monday into December.
Great News
Turkish will use a B787-900 every Monday starting 19th - currently bookable every Monday into December.
Great News
I don't see any issue with certainty of timings, AI operated a schedule pre-covid that was pretty stable, and the principal destination from BHX is Amritsar. Two different markets I think, and if I had to back a winner between VS at MAN or AI at BHX on balance, post covid I'd choose the latter.
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Hopefully the current crisis will lead the owners of BHX to reassess their pricing structure and reduce their hefty passenger fees. It's been too expensive an airport to sustain a decent low cost scheduled operation for the past twenty years. The councillors I charge think that BHX should be on a par with MAN but it's not.
Hopefully the current crisis will lead the owners of BHX to reassess their pricing structure and reduce their hefty passenger fees. It's been too expensive an airport to sustain a decent low cost scheduled operation for the past twenty years. The councillors I charge think that BHX should be on a par with MAN but it's not.
I honestly don't believe that BHX could attract that much more regular business if the published rates were 50% of Manchester's, where BHX might score in such a scenario could be on ad hoc movements - charters, both passenger and freight, and of course diversions which, thanks to modern technology are not such a factor as they were say, 30 years ago. The main drivers for new services are going to be commercial viability from a yield standpoint, and we already know that BHX has never been able to sustain enough font end traffic even to encourage Emirates or a transatlantic carrier to successfully offer a first class product.
Kicking the airport over it's fees misses the point. That being the wealth of the region it serves, and it's proximity to Manchester and the London airports, not to mention the dilution of passenger demand by having two passenger airports within 80km of each other. The current crisis and it's aftermath may actually encourage airport businesses to play hardball with those carriers paying uneconomic rates so that they can maximise revenue and at the same time reduce staffing numbers - working smart rather than hard, or in other terms, stop being busy fools.
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Update
Wizz - big update across the network. Craiova still appears to start next Saturday twice a week with Tuesday the other day from 27-10. Bucharest operates again this Sundays before dropping to twice weekly for November with the Wednesday service returning in December.
Cluj ends Friday 30 October for a month at least
Iasi delayed to 16 December
Krakow has ended and pencilled in for 17-11 twice a week
Wroclaw and Warsaw remain weekly until the week of 16 November when they could go back to twice weekly
Riga and Vilnius remain the first week in December.
Budapest remains 18 November for a return.
Ryanair - They have updated winter but added a new route for two weeks starting Saturday - Heraklion!
Alicante - was daily in winter and now 4 a week in general
Barcelona - was to be daily now 3 a week
Fuerteventura, Arrecife, Oporto, Murcia, Gdansk, Katowice, Modlin - 2 no change
Las Palmas - was removed but back in weekly on a Saturday (day change from Friday)
Madrid - ends tomorrow with no return date
Malaga - was to be 6 a week now 3
Tenerife - reduced from 4 to 3
Bratislava - ended yesterday
Faro - 2 a week from 3
Bydgoszcz - reduced from 3 to 2 weekly
Krakow - from 3 to 4 to 3
Malta - 3 a week to 2
Verona - no change restarts Christmas weekly
Dublin - Originally around 36 a week down to 14 and now 5
Sofia - Was 3 then removed completely but just for day changes and back to 2 weekly with Friday on a based aircraft
Around 44 flights 3 based still but some days the based on operate a couple of flights
Jet2 - Rome has ended for at least month and they have pushed back Venice to February but reinstate Heraklion next weekend operating Saturday and Sunday for 2 weeks and after that Saturday continues to 14-11. Rhodes has a third Saturday flight added this week for two weeks and continues once a week until 14 November. Berlin and Vienna Christmas Market flights appear to be cancelled, which is understandable. Dalaman is now next year but will restart Antalya if given the green light. The Canaries remain bookable from next Sunday
TUI - Restarted Zante in a blink of an eye. Crete hasn't though but Rhodes is back on sale until 14-11 (Tuesday & Saturday) and double daily on a Saturday for the next 2 weeks. Finally Montego Bay has been delayed and removed for October but still showing for November. Hurghada is due to start Friday.
easyjet - oh dear. Glasgow and Edinburgh appear to be suspended from 9th November to 3rd December and in the same period Belfast reduced to 6 a week
Blue Island - Jersey seems to be ending 1st November until 21st December
Air France - This coming week Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday & Saturday and Sunday 17.40 departure - Monday 26 06.15 departure & same on Friday week. The schedule changes daily and some days there are none but Monday and Friday often twice daily.
KLM - This has changed again with next week just 2 Monday, Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday and winter it is 3 daily on Sunday, Monday and Friday and 2 the other days
Lufthansa - No change with Munich allegedly double daily in winter some A319's CRJ9's and E195's, Frankfurt remains Cityline
Aer Lingus - Dublin still down to start Friday Daily early morning except Sunday which is afternoon. Cork unfortunately has been put back until December. Belfast City non-ops this Wednesday but double daily in winter apart from Saturday.
Loganair, Eurowings Emirates, Air India - no changes noticed.
Some positives are priority freight (JLR & COVID related) and GA movements as well as Football (Domestic, European and International) and GP charters (Aurigny and Cityflyer today)
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Three UK’s airports have had their credit ratings downgraded by Moody’s as the pandemic continues to hammer global air travel.
Heathrow , Gatwick and Birmingham.
Manchester retained its status ahead of LHR AND LGW.
Heathrow , Gatwick and Birmingham.
Manchester retained its status ahead of LHR AND LGW.
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