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[QUOTE=Matt995;10706735]now looks like the 28th April, as nothing currently bookable on their website, or showing on google flights after that date 
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It was an usual end date originally but at least left it until after Easter.
Loads in general have not been too bad but some light fares at times and again another loco route where yields no doubt have failed to match expectations. However as I mentioned in an earlier post I don't think Madrid is a route for two loco's although Ryanair has never been more than 4 a week except Christmas extras..
I am sure Ryanair winter has changed as it was showing reduced to twice weekly for short periods but it is now showing 3 a week all winter.
[b]Flybe
Not too much comment on here re Flybe but I would like to pass on my best wishes to cockpit & cabin crew and ground handlers (WFS) affected and add my thanks for the enjoyable flights on the 195, 175 and Dash that I have taken over the years..
In terms of future employment of all those BHX based staff affected it has not been as yet, the same as Monarch and Thomas Cook where Jet2 and TUI added extra BHX based aircraft as the Flybe route profile was very different.
All the additions/replacements thus far, which have been very good for a short period of time involved are all on away based aircraft from Scotland or the Channel Isles.
Four new airlines and four destinations in a few days would normally be celebrated as magnificent but certainly not in this situation as it has come off the back of others distress.
Also with Corona, April based on what is left is heading for around 15% down which no doubt will also affect the staffing in the shops and eateries making matters even more unpredictable.
Pete.
[It was an usual end date originally but at least left it until after Easter.
Loads in general have not been too bad but some light fares at times and again another loco route where yields no doubt have failed to match expectations. However as I mentioned in an earlier post I don't think Madrid is a route for two loco's although Ryanair has never been more than 4 a week except Christmas extras..
I am sure Ryanair winter has changed as it was showing reduced to twice weekly for short periods but it is now showing 3 a week all winter.
[b]Flybe
Not too much comment on here re Flybe but I would like to pass on my best wishes to cockpit & cabin crew and ground handlers (WFS) affected and add my thanks for the enjoyable flights on the 195, 175 and Dash that I have taken over the years..
In terms of future employment of all those BHX based staff affected it has not been as yet, the same as Monarch and Thomas Cook where Jet2 and TUI added extra BHX based aircraft as the Flybe route profile was very different.
All the additions/replacements thus far, which have been very good for a short period of time involved are all on away based aircraft from Scotland or the Channel Isles.
Four new airlines and four destinations in a few days would normally be celebrated as magnificent but certainly not in this situation as it has come off the back of others distress.
Also with Corona, April based on what is left is heading for around 15% down which no doubt will also affect the staffing in the shops and eateries making matters even more unpredictable.
Pete.
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It's really dissappointing that an airport the size of BHX can't maintain at least a daily flight to the capital of Spain!
Will take years to claw back the routes and passengers lost by Flybe, at least Aberdeen and Inverness are back up to the number of Flybe passengers lost, Jersey/Guernsey is a start but still less seats than the Flybe schedules.
Isle Of Man should be added this week, but the other routes will take longer to fill.
KLM now have the Amsterdam flights to themselves, along with Air France on Paris CDG, and Eurowings on Dusseldorf, so they can charge what they like! Will they possible increase or use larger aircraft?
The French regional routes will never be replaced, maybe Lyon will be picked up by someone, so that leaves, Knock, Amsterdam, Paris CDG, Dusseldorf, Berlin, Stuttgart, Hamburg, Hanover, Milan crying out for new airlines, but who would want to take this on, are we pinning are hopes on Easyjet for these?
And Edinburgh, Glasgow, only 13 flights a week each by Easyjet, will they increase, and Belfast too, unless some other airline restarts Belfast City?
Corona virus will also effect the airport, already airlines are cutting back, and where will this leave the big expansion by Jet 2 and TUI this summer?
If the passengers number for April are only down by 15% I would count that as a good result, I expect a much bigger loss, and what will March be like, we must be talking about a loss of at least 20%?
2020 will not be a good year for the airport
now looks like the 28th April, as nothing currently bookable on their website, or showing on google flights after that date [
It was an usual end date originally but at least left it until after Easter.
Loads in general have not been too bad but some light fares at times and again another loco route where yields no doubt have failed to match expectations. However as I mentioned in an earlier post I don't think Madrid is a route for two loco's although Ryanair has never been more than 4 a week except Christmas extras..
I am sure Ryanair winter has changed as it was showing reduced to twice weekly for short periods but it is now showing 3 a week all winter.
[b]Flybe
Not too much comment on here re Flybe but I would like to pass on my best wishes to cockpit & cabin crew and ground handlers (WFS) affected and add my thanks for the enjoyable flights on the 195, 175 and Dash that I have taken over the years..
In terms of future employment of all those BHX based staff affected it has not been as yet, the same as Monarch and Thomas Cook where Jet2 and TUI added extra BHX based aircraft as the Flybe route profile was very different.
All the additions/replacements thus far, which have been very good for a short period of time involved are all on away based aircraft from Scotland or the Channel Isles.
Four new airlines and four destinations in a few days would normally be celebrated as magnificent but certainly not in this situation as it has come off the back of others distress.
Also with Corona, April based on what is left is heading for around 15% down which no doubt will also affect the staffing in the shops and eateries making matters even more unpredictable.
Pete.
[It was an usual end date originally but at least left it until after Easter.
Loads in general have not been too bad but some light fares at times and again another loco route where yields no doubt have failed to match expectations. However as I mentioned in an earlier post I don't think Madrid is a route for two loco's although Ryanair has never been more than 4 a week except Christmas extras..
I am sure Ryanair winter has changed as it was showing reduced to twice weekly for short periods but it is now showing 3 a week all winter.
[b]Flybe
Not too much comment on here re Flybe but I would like to pass on my best wishes to cockpit & cabin crew and ground handlers (WFS) affected and add my thanks for the enjoyable flights on the 195, 175 and Dash that I have taken over the years..
In terms of future employment of all those BHX based staff affected it has not been as yet, the same as Monarch and Thomas Cook where Jet2 and TUI added extra BHX based aircraft as the Flybe route profile was very different.
All the additions/replacements thus far, which have been very good for a short period of time involved are all on away based aircraft from Scotland or the Channel Isles.
Four new airlines and four destinations in a few days would normally be celebrated as magnificent but certainly not in this situation as it has come off the back of others distress.
Also with Corona, April based on what is left is heading for around 15% down which no doubt will also affect the staffing in the shops and eateries making matters even more unpredictable.
Pete.
Will take years to claw back the routes and passengers lost by Flybe, at least Aberdeen and Inverness are back up to the number of Flybe passengers lost, Jersey/Guernsey is a start but still less seats than the Flybe schedules.
Isle Of Man should be added this week, but the other routes will take longer to fill.
KLM now have the Amsterdam flights to themselves, along with Air France on Paris CDG, and Eurowings on Dusseldorf, so they can charge what they like! Will they possible increase or use larger aircraft?
The French regional routes will never be replaced, maybe Lyon will be picked up by someone, so that leaves, Knock, Amsterdam, Paris CDG, Dusseldorf, Berlin, Stuttgart, Hamburg, Hanover, Milan crying out for new airlines, but who would want to take this on, are we pinning are hopes on Easyjet for these?
And Edinburgh, Glasgow, only 13 flights a week each by Easyjet, will they increase, and Belfast too, unless some other airline restarts Belfast City?
Corona virus will also effect the airport, already airlines are cutting back, and where will this leave the big expansion by Jet 2 and TUI this summer?
If the passengers number for April are only down by 15% I would count that as a good result, I expect a much bigger loss, and what will March be like, we must be talking about a loss of at least 20%?
2020 will not be a good year for the airport
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With regards to the coronavirus this is the current changes (highly likely to change):· Brussels Airlines:
· Decrease Brussels from 22x to 13x weekly·
·Austrian Airlines:
· Decrease Vienna from 4x to 3x weekly
· Eurowings:
· Decrease Dusseldorf from 22x to 16x weekly
· Decrease Brussels from 22x to 13x weekly·
·Austrian Airlines:
· Decrease Vienna from 4x to 3x weekly
· Eurowings:
· Decrease Dusseldorf from 22x to 16x weekly
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With regards to the coronavirus this is the current changes (highly likely to change):· Brussels Airlines:
· Decrease Brussels from 22x to 13x weekly·
·Austrian Airlines:
· Decrease Vienna from 4x to 3x weekly
· Eurowings:
· Decrease Dusseldorf from 22x to 16x weekly
· Decrease Brussels from 22x to 13x weekly·
·Austrian Airlines:
· Decrease Vienna from 4x to 3x weekly
· Eurowings:
· Decrease Dusseldorf from 22x to 16x weekly
Brussels Birmingham Reduce from 22 weekly to
08MAR20 14MAR20 19 weekly
15MAR20 21MAR20 17 weekly
22MAR20 28MAR20 13 weekly
Vienna Birmingham
15MAR20 21MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Dusseldorf Birmingham Reduce from 22 weekly to
08MAR20 14MAR20 21 weekly
15MAR20 21MAR20 18 weekly
22MAR20 28MAR20 16 weekly
Manchester, Newcastle, Heathrow etc.. also see reductions too.
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If forecasts for other airports are anything to go by BHX could be down to 6m.
Nobody is flying.
When there is an upturn I'm not sure there will be the airlines in place to even provide the capacity it's that bad.
Brussels has lost 30% but it's not finished yet.
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Nobody is flying.
When there is an upturn I'm not sure there will be the airlines in place to even provide the capacity it's that bad.
Brussels has lost 30% but it's not finished yet.
Brace brace brace.......
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* A message from Birmingham Airport *
Those of you living in communities close to the airport will have noticed the unprecedented reduction in aircraft activity resulting from the situation surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. This is expected to last for some time yet. However, I did want to draw your attention to two requests we have received as a result of the current situation:
1. As part of a contingency programme to enable patients to be rapidly transferred to hospitals within the region, the military will have a force of Puma helicopters available for such duties.
In poor weather conditions, helicopter pilots will need to undertake what is known as a ‘cloud break’ procedure, where the aircraft needs to safely descend until the pilot has visual contact with the ground. For helicopters en-route to local hospitals, that procedure will involve using the standard approach procedures for Birmingham Airport – effectively following the ILS approaches until visual contact is made with the ground, at which point they will fly directly to their destination hospital.
The military has requested that training flights be undertaken within the next few days so that pilots can practice these procedures.
2. With airlines having grounded their majority of their fleets, opportunities for pilots to undertake the required number of flying hours needed to maintain their licences are severely reduced. Some of our airline partners have therefore requested that a number (as yet unknown) of training flights be permitted to facilitate this. We expect the numbers of both types of operations to be very small in comparison to normal operations, but given that normal flying operations have virtually ceased, they may well be more noticeable to residents than would ordinarily be the case. We would be grateful if you were able to make this information available to the communities you represent. Please do get in touch of you have any questions.
Thank you for your co-operation in these extraordinary times.
Those of you living in communities close to the airport will have noticed the unprecedented reduction in aircraft activity resulting from the situation surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. This is expected to last for some time yet. However, I did want to draw your attention to two requests we have received as a result of the current situation:
1. As part of a contingency programme to enable patients to be rapidly transferred to hospitals within the region, the military will have a force of Puma helicopters available for such duties.
In poor weather conditions, helicopter pilots will need to undertake what is known as a ‘cloud break’ procedure, where the aircraft needs to safely descend until the pilot has visual contact with the ground. For helicopters en-route to local hospitals, that procedure will involve using the standard approach procedures for Birmingham Airport – effectively following the ILS approaches until visual contact is made with the ground, at which point they will fly directly to their destination hospital.
The military has requested that training flights be undertaken within the next few days so that pilots can practice these procedures.
2. With airlines having grounded their majority of their fleets, opportunities for pilots to undertake the required number of flying hours needed to maintain their licences are severely reduced. Some of our airline partners have therefore requested that a number (as yet unknown) of training flights be permitted to facilitate this. We expect the numbers of both types of operations to be very small in comparison to normal operations, but given that normal flying operations have virtually ceased, they may well be more noticeable to residents than would ordinarily be the case. We would be grateful if you were able to make this information available to the communities you represent. Please do get in touch of you have any questions.
Thank you for your co-operation in these extraordinary times.
I believe they're closing Terminal 2 (The old Eurohub) and tansferring everything over to Terminal 1. This will reduce the workforce dramatically with no security at key posts.
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* A message from Birmingham Airport *
Those of you living in communities close to the airport will have noticed the unprecedented reduction in aircraft activity resulting from the situation surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. This is expected to last for some time yet. However, I did want to draw your attention to two requests we have received as a result of the current situation:
1. As part of a contingency programme to enable patients to be rapidly transferred to hospitals within the region, the military will have a force of Puma helicopters available for such duties.
In poor weather conditions, helicopter pilots will need to undertake what is known as a ‘cloud break’ procedure, where the aircraft needs to safely descend until the pilot has visual contact with the ground. For helicopters en-route to local hospitals, that procedure will involve using the standard approach procedures for Birmingham Airport – effectively following the ILS approaches until visual contact is made with the ground, at which point they will fly directly to their destination hospital.
The military has requested that training flights be undertaken within the next few days so that pilots can practice these procedures.
2. With airlines having grounded their majority of their fleets, opportunities for pilots to undertake the required number of flying hours needed to maintain their licences are severely reduced. Some of our airline partners have therefore requested that a number (as yet unknown) of training flights be permitted to facilitate this. We expect the numbers of both types of operations to be very small in comparison to normal operations, but given that normal flying operations have virtually ceased, they may well be more noticeable to residents than would ordinarily be the case. We would be grateful if you were able to make this information available to the communities you represent. Please do get in touch of you have any questions.
Thank you for your co-operation in these extraordinary times.
Those of you living in communities close to the airport will have noticed the unprecedented reduction in aircraft activity resulting from the situation surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. This is expected to last for some time yet. However, I did want to draw your attention to two requests we have received as a result of the current situation:
1. As part of a contingency programme to enable patients to be rapidly transferred to hospitals within the region, the military will have a force of Puma helicopters available for such duties.
In poor weather conditions, helicopter pilots will need to undertake what is known as a ‘cloud break’ procedure, where the aircraft needs to safely descend until the pilot has visual contact with the ground. For helicopters en-route to local hospitals, that procedure will involve using the standard approach procedures for Birmingham Airport – effectively following the ILS approaches until visual contact is made with the ground, at which point they will fly directly to their destination hospital.
The military has requested that training flights be undertaken within the next few days so that pilots can practice these procedures.
2. With airlines having grounded their majority of their fleets, opportunities for pilots to undertake the required number of flying hours needed to maintain their licences are severely reduced. Some of our airline partners have therefore requested that a number (as yet unknown) of training flights be permitted to facilitate this. We expect the numbers of both types of operations to be very small in comparison to normal operations, but given that normal flying operations have virtually ceased, they may well be more noticeable to residents than would ordinarily be the case. We would be grateful if you were able to make this information available to the communities you represent. Please do get in touch of you have any questions.
Thank you for your co-operation in these extraordinary times.
Think people are jumping on the 'scare-mongering' bandwagon but I happy to be proven wrong. I live within 2 miles of BHX and have seen nothing yet
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If the NEC potentially becomes a field hospital and there is to be a morgue on the grounds of BHX, will it still be possible for BHX to continue to function as a commercial airport with even a few flights per day ?
Can't see why not. As far as I know they're talking about using a hangar, and the NEC (I assume the Area hall) isn't in any way connected to the airport. However by the time those facilities are needed, I really can't see which, if any regular scheduled services may be operating at all.
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Emirates are planning a daily A380 flight from 1st May, according to this list.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...lN0-VyGGidSM9w
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EK at BHX
Emirates are planning a daily A380 flight from 1st May, according to this list.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...lN0-VyGGidSM9w
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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...lN0-VyGGidSM9w
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Very little chance in my opinion !
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Very lucky to get 1 flight a day by 1st May.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
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Very lucky to get 1 flight a day by 1st May.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
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Things in my view will not be the same until we have a vaccine and people are 100% confident to fly knowing they are not going to end up up on a ventilator within 3 days of arriving at their destination. That is now years away.
There is then the economic aspect which is absolutely dire.
If you take Dubai as an example yes there will be some travel but this will surely be discretionary for people having no option but to travel for work or possibly to sort out personnel affairs.
IMO we are facing an economic earthquake.
Assuming you still have a job or indeed your business hasnt gone bust why on earth would you then take a chance of sitting in a metal tube with 500 other passenger in close proximity with a high likelihood that at least a dozen have got Covid that will then be circulated via the air con system ?
This isnt going away. The measures we have in place are simply to ensure the NHS isnt swamped with patients this virus will be doing the rounds for months.
JET2 TUI and RYR will "apparently" restart in June.
Where on earth are they going to fly to Spain , Italy!
SERIOUSLY ?
There is then the economic aspect which is absolutely dire.
If you take Dubai as an example yes there will be some travel but this will surely be discretionary for people having no option but to travel for work or possibly to sort out personnel affairs.
IMO we are facing an economic earthquake.
Assuming you still have a job or indeed your business hasnt gone bust why on earth would you then take a chance of sitting in a metal tube with 500 other passenger in close proximity with a high likelihood that at least a dozen have got Covid that will then be circulated via the air con system ?
This isnt going away. The measures we have in place are simply to ensure the NHS isnt swamped with patients this virus will be doing the rounds for months.
JET2 TUI and RYR will "apparently" restart in June.
Where on earth are they going to fly to Spain , Italy!
SERIOUSLY ?