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Old 29th Jul 2019, 10:10
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TUI Update 26 July

SmartLynx A320 ES-SAQ is arriving to replace B738 G-FDZT

A321 SX-ACP continues to be based
September sees one TUI aircraft removed from the base after the first week believed to be related to an end of lease somewhere (Estonian or Olympus?),although also reported bookings are soft nationally.

The changes have resulted in 16 fewer flights a week than August and only 2 were originally planned.

The shocker is Porto Santo as this after FNC which went earlier the year. The other destinations have multiple frequencies and I assume just consolidated.

BHX is not alone with Manchester having around 23 fewer flights a week in September than August and Gatwick 35-40 (these are estimates and confirmation required) but what I don't know about these two bases is exactly how many were planned originally and how many aircraft involved but Manchester would seem to be 1 or 2 and maybe up to 3 at Gatwick. I am sure Scottie Dog will correct me or add some more specific information re Manchester.

October will see another aircraft removed from BHX but this was planned however the weekly flights dip from 110 (Aug) - 94 (Sept) to 60 odd in October and I am not convinced all these were planned but as it is end of season I didn't note the original schedule but not all 6 based are busy every day or at least appear not to be.

Winter 2019/20 has also seen cuts with TFS down from 4 to 3, LPA 3 to 2, ACE 3 to 2, Marsa which I am sure was bookable once has gone and the extra Hurghada has gone. Good news Agadir remains and although no longer 4 based all week on short-haul there are on Friday, Saturday and Sunday like last year.

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Originally Posted by OltonPete
BHX is not alone with Manchester having around 23 fewer flights a week in September than August and Gatwick 35-40 (these are estimates and confirmation required) but what I don't know about these two bases is exactly how many were planned originally and how many aircraft involved but Manchester would seem to be 1 or 2 and maybe up to 3 at Gatwick. I am sure Scottie Dog will correct me or add some more specific information.

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I'm afraid I've not seen anything with regards to the TUI plans for Manchester, however should anything come through my "detector system" I'll try to let you know.

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Originally Posted by RogueOne
What sort of operation, and numbers of flights would need to be in place for Wizz to consider a base at BHX?
I would guess primarily routes to destinations that Wizz Air does not already have a base?... For example Tel Aviv, Athens, Lisbon, Split, Oslo, Reykjavik, Ohrid, etc They do however overlap some routes, for example a morning flight might be operated from there home base in Poland to Luton and then the afternoon flight will be operated to that destination my an LTN based Wizz UK aircraft.

Before the LTN base was ever established they night stopped one or two Wizz Aircraft at LTN and also quite a few routes were previously W routes. (eg, Budapest-Luton-Split-Luton-Budapest).

Being realistic though and not meaning to let your hopes fade, the Wizz operation at BHX is quite small and only of a similar size to that of at Liverpool, Doncaster and Bristol, where they have been operating for 5+ years. Most of these routes are operated several times a week, where Luton has had multiple daily routes to many of these major Eastern European cities with Wizz for numerous years before the base was even set up.

However when you look at their base at Vienna, they never had a presence there whatsoever before, and just stormed in opening up numerous routes and basing five aircraft. But until last year the airport only had a smattering of low-cost airline routes.
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Originally Posted by gilesdavies
I would guess primarily routes to destinations that Wizz Air does not already have a base?... For example Tel Aviv, Athens, Lisbon, Split, Oslo, Reykjavik, Ohrid, etc They do however overlap some routes, for example a morning flight might be operated from there home base in Poland to Luton and then the afternoon flight will be operated to that destination my an LTN based Wizz UK aircraft.

Before the LTN base was ever established they night stopped one or two Wizz Aircraft at LTN and also quite a few routes were previously W routes. (eg, Budapest-Luton-Split-Luton-Budapest).

Being realistic though and not meaning to let your hopes fade, the Wizz operation at BHX is quite small and only of a similar size to that of at Liverpool, Doncaster and Bristol, where they have been operating for 5+ years. Most of these routes are operated several times a week, where Luton has had multiple daily routes to many of these major Eastern European cities with Wizz for numerous years before the base was even set up.

However when you look at their base at Vienna, they never had a presence there whatsoever before, and just stormed in opening up numerous routes and basing five aircraft. But until last year the airport only had a smattering of low-cost airline routes.
Thanks!! Good to know.
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Wizz all but pulled out of Bristol a couple of years ago. They now only operate to Katowice at 2/3 x weekly, depending on season.
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The changes have resulted in 16 fewer flights a week than August and only 2 were originally planned.
Pete, Is this to do with the 737 MAX problems or a supply and demand one? I can't see the MAX back in operation this side of Christmas.
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TUI & June pax

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Pete, Is this to do with the 737 MAX problems or a supply and demand one? I can't see the MAX back in operation this side of Christmas.
Depends on who you believe but understandable if they have a chance to consolidate at the same time saving on leasing costs and the relying on compensation. I haven't been told which aircraft is leaving but I presume it will be the Estonian A320 but I don't know for sure.

June 2019 passenger figures

CAA provisional stats show BHX up 1.62% 1259647 up from June 2018 1239181.

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2 New Routes albeit one is very brief

Jet2 Saturday Innsbruck from late December 2019 for the ski season.

The other one much sort after as a permanent route - alas one day only and subject to change.

Air India - Mumbai - BHX - Mumbai, AI130/1 B77W Monday 5th August only. It is the Heathrow flight for one day only but it is actually in GDS as bookable from BHX.

Air India are stopping the Friday Delhi - Copenhagen for winter - is this aircraft destined for the rumoured 4th Amritsar service?

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Air India - Mumbai - BHX - Mumbai, AI130/1 B77W Monday 5th August only. It is the Heathrow flight for one day only but it is actually in GDS as bookable from BHX.
Is this to do with the potential Heathrow strike due to take place on Monday 5th August?
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
Is this to do with the potential Heathrow strike due to take place on Monday 5th August?
Why just that date out of the multiple dates for potential strike?
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Emirates may also be sending one their A388's to BHX on Mon / Tue if the LHR strike goes ahead

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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
Emirates may also be sending one their A388's to BHX on Mon / Tue if the LHR strike goes ahead
Industrial Action at LHR on Monday has been cancelled
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June Route Analysis 2019

This is just the schedule routes which does include Thomas Cook and on certain route TUI (don't ask)

Source: CAA for the monthly figures and FR24 for rotations (Health Warning as not always accurate) - Load factors - seat maps also not always accurate.

These in general are good other than the usual suspects, Vienna, Agadir and some flybe French routes which had in some instances only just started. Some Flybe load factors are excellent but the caveat is maybe fewer flight with more cancellations boosting load factor. Lufthansa in general operated bigger aircraft and thus more seats hence load factors dipped. Blue Air operated more Bucharest flights and load factor went up which doesn't always happen but they did use rather more 735's. In June 2019.Brussels Airlines using the CRJ9 boosting load factor (4th Brussels a day restarts in winter on a CRJ9) and Dublin obviously increased passengers and load factor despite the RJ85 operating. Long-haul was quite good for June mainly due to Ramadan ending earlier in 2019. Domestic flights were also decent although not sure about the easyjet load factor on Belfast as I suspect I have made a mistake somewhere.



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An excellent analysis. Thank you Pete for your continued hard work - definitely a labour of love!
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B787-9 G-TUIM is covering for a 737 today (7th August)

It’s operating to Malaga and Dalaman
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Originally Posted by jon01
B787-9 G-TUIM is covering for a 737 today (7th August)

It’s operating to Malaga and Dalaman
Must be covering for G-FDZD which has gone to NWI to cover Sunwing.
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Analysis & TUI

Originally Posted by Scottie Dog
An excellent analysis. Thank you Pete for your continued hard work - definitely a labour of love!
And of course they would not be there without your help with the formatting. It takes long enough using FR24 for rotations with the only alternative to wait for the punctuality stats to be released by the CAA to get the exact rotations but by the time they are out the FR24 data has gone in respect of the actual aircraft type operated, as I only have silver (3 months) and not gold. At least now I can upload in minutes rather than hours

TUI

Despite the 789 operating the morning Ibiza has just left estimating back 04.45 instead of 13.15. ZD went to Norwich to cover Sunwing and for some reason ZF operated only the Antalya this afternoon and nothing this morning - tech?

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From other threads it mentions the Faro and Tenerife bases closing and BHX has 3 winter frequencies a week from Faro using their base and one Tenerife flight operated from the TFS base. The 3 based BHX aircraft this winter are busy other than Tuesday and wonder if these will be chopped or operated from the BHX base.

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TUI Update 13-Aug-19

B763 EC-LZO is operating to Alicante before positioning out on 14th Aug, this is to cover for a B752 that is running very late to/from Bodrum

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Originally Posted by jon01
TUI Update 13-Aug-19

B763 EC-LZO is operating to Alicante before positioning out on 14th Aug, this is to cover for a B752 that is running very late to/from Bodrum
The main problem leading to the above is that the based Olympus A321 is grounded with brake issues

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EZY to operate BHX-GLA 13 x PW from 29 March 2020

https://www.heraldscotland.com/busin...asgow-airport/
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