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Old 21st Mar 2019, 14:54
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Speaking of Eurowings, I was pleasantly surprised at the load on the lunch time DHC-8 BHX-DUS service last Thursday. 70 pax total. Having experienced relatively mediocre loads on their 3x weekday Airbus flights I was somewhat skeptical regarding their decision to introduce a 4th rotation. Of course it might have been something to do with the NEC and not a regular occurrence, I don't know. Many of the pax flew on to other destinations from DUS.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 11:28
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They are supposed to do through connections with OS, HOWEVER....

I was booked BHX-ZRH-BKK-VIE-BHX last September with a lengthy connection in VIE, but the SEN lounge is not a bad place to wait. Then they retimed the VIE/BHX from lunchtime to very early morning, making the connection impossible. I was re-booked on LH via FRA but I had to suffer LH C class long-haul, something any sane solo traveller should avoid - fine if you’re flying with a close friend, but I do not like playing footsie with a complete stranger for 12 hours.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 12:59
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Speaking of Eurowings, I was pleasantly surprised at the load on the lunch time DHC-8 BHX-DUS service last Thursday. 70 pax total. Having experienced relatively mediocre loads on their 3x weekday Airbus flights I was somewhat skeptical regarding their decision to introduce a 4th rotation. Of course it might have been something to do with the NEC and not a regular occurrence, I don't know. Many of the pax flew on to other destinations from DUS.
Cheers HT interesting comments and my first thought when it was announced was why? However as you have alluded to BHX is still affected by trade shows at the NEC and indeed FR Dublin, EI Dublin, Flybe Amsterdam, easyjet Belfast operate more frequencies than summer which for short-haul regional routes you would think would be unusual. However there is a chance of filling them during trade shows although outside of these events some loads can be horrendous but some haven't the luxury of Lufthansa or SAS where an A319 can be reasonably quickly upgraded to an A321.

I know the popular assumption is that BHX is a low-yielding, seasonal outbound market but it is not as straightforward as that and there is money to be made in winter even during school-term. BHX is not the lame-duck some allude to which is often fuelled by what seems to be the constant long-haul struggles.

On the subject of Dussledorf, ironically next week is the last week of the Eurowings extra Dash 8 service yet they have been given the early inbound market on a plate by Flybe moving their first inbound Dash 8 flight to Manchester and this should improve load factors at least on the first inbound Eurowings A319/A320.

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Old 24th Mar 2019, 07:45
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Turkish Airlines s19

Turkish have been forced to cancel 15 BHX services in April 2019, due to issues with the airport move at Istanbul and the 737 MAX grounding

This occurs between 5 - 20 April 2019

On 6, 10 & 11 April, there will be no services

Services on some days during the above period have been upgraded to A321 aircraft
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Turkish Airlines s19

Turkish have been forced to cancel 15 BHX services in April 2019, due to issues with the airport move at Istanbul and the 737 MAX grounding

This occurs between 5 - 20 April 2019

On 6, 10 & 11 April, there will be no services

Services on some days during the above period have been upgraded to A321 aircraft
Obviously nothing much can be done on the MAX issue but BHX can't catch a break at the moment. I make it 2000 seats lost on Saturday 20th April which is part of the Easter break this year and nothing to do with BHX - One EK cancelled due the Dubai Runway works, Air India cancelled due to the Pakistani airspace issue and one Turkish cancelled.

Turkish at Manchester seems to be around 6 cancellations ending on the 14th and Heathrow around 25 cancellations.

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jon01, I'm not so sure it has anything to do with the airport change but more to do with shortage of aircraft equipment.
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Surprise surprise Air India have extended the closure of the routes. I'd be surprised to see them back anytime soon.

Delhi – Amritsar – Birmingham Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30JUN19
Delhi – Birmingham Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30APR19
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 23:47
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AI - if at all. From daily 787 and 4 x weekly Turkmen connections to.no scheduled India flights. Pax will have to get used to the M40.....

Just 3 scheduled long haul routes and destinations left at BHX S19 - Dubai, Doha and Islamabad.

Where next for long haul at BHX? Answers on back of a postage stamp please!
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 08:26
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AI - if at all. From daily 787 and 4 x weekly Turkmen connections to.no scheduled India flights. Pax will have to get used to the M40.....

Just 3 scheduled long haul routes and destinations left at BHX S19 - Dubai, Doha and Islamabad.

Where next for long haul at BHX? Answers on back of a postage stamp please!
The way I read the AI situation is that they have suspended DEL-BHX until the end of April, and ATQ until the end of June. That shows a very clear intention to return to BHX. It would have been much easier to have suspended the routes, then quietly dropped them, which they clearly haven't done.

Turkmenistan have been banned by the EU on safety grounds. Surely when they have sorted out those issues they will be back, they have been a fixture at BHX for donkey's years and especially were AI to really kill off ATQ from BHX would come back stronger.

Turkish have been a victim of the 737MAX debacle, and again there is no sign of them drastically cutting back, they had planned to return to twice daily.

What I am saying that it's easy to be depressed by recent events, but AI is geopolitical situation, Turkmenistan a technical issue, and Turkish again a safety thing. All, I feel sure will be back. When all is said and done, BHX has a deal more long haul than most UK airports, and definetely airports that are so close to LHR and MAN.

If our "leaders" continue to play canute and / or fiddle while Rome is burning, BHX and many other UK airports could have much more to worry about that temporary suspensions of long haul routes.
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The way I read the AI situation is that they have suspended DEL-BHX until the end of April, and ATQ until the end of June. That shows a very clear intention to return to BHX. It would have been much easier to have suspended the routes, then quietly dropped them, which they clearly haven't done.

Turkmenistan have been banned by the EU on safety grounds. Surely when they have sorted out those issues they will be back, they have been a fixture at BHX for donkey's years and especially were AI to really kill off ATQ from BHX would come back stronger.

Turkish have been a victim of the 737MAX debacle, and again there is no sign of them drastically cutting back, they had planned to return to twice daily.

What I am saying that it's easy to be depressed by recent events, but AI is geopolitical situation, Turkmenistan a technical issue, and Turkish again a safety thing. All, I feel sure will be back. When all is said and done, BHX has a deal more long haul than most UK airports, and definetely airports that are so close to LHR and MAN.

If our "leaders" continue to play canute and / or fiddle while Rome is burning, BHX and many other UK airports could have much more to worry about that temporary suspensions of long haul routes.
Pakistani airspace reopened and Air India Delhi bookable from Sunday 3 days a week.

Not so confident re Amritsar as that stays canned until 30 June but maybe AI are not so confident about the airspace that far north.

Jet and AI Delhi Heathrow today still avoided Pakistani airspace but I suppose it will take a few days to get back to normal but plenty of other airlines are well and truly using it.

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Old 28th Mar 2019, 06:39
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S19 ACL Slot Allocations

The ACL Summer season report is now out

It shows an increase in seats of 717,041, but this will depend on Turkmenistan restarting and Amritsar returning. This figure also includes slots held by Spicejet and Indigo to Amritsar, which will not start until later in the year, if at all

Jota have no slots showing, but the JLR Bratislava flight series is operating into the summer

Pakistan showing an increase, this might be slots for the rumoured Sialkot service

In terms of capacity, Ryanair are Birmingham's biggest airline during the summer months, with 75,000 more seats available than s18, followed by Jet2 and then Flybe

What makes this interesting is that Ryanair only have 4 based aircraft for the summer, with many visits by away aircraft. Jet2 have up to 11 and TUI 9 based

Lots of increases and decreases, overall nothing too exciting. I think we have to wait until 2020 for everything to settle down, normality to resume and hopefully no more cutbacks

The full report is here: BHX Summer 19 Season report

Good news to see Delhi resuming this Sunday

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Old 29th Mar 2019, 13:21
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Jet and AI Delhi Heathrow today still avoided Pakistani airspace but I suppose it will take a few days to get back to normal but plenty of other airlines are well and truly using it.

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I flew on KL from Bangkok yesterday and that flight diverted to avoid Pakistani airspace.
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Qatar 33 A359 today

Today’s Qatar is A359 ....pretty sure a first visit of this type & only time not a Dreamliner?
Noticed stand 54 yesterday had stop bar for 359 written on it
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 18:31
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Jet 2 Preveza

Now bookable weekly from S20
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Now bookable weekly from S20
There appears to be a trend here

Already Jet2 have replaced Flybe on the Sunday ski flight to Lleida next winter, the Jet2 Preveza parallels the Flybe Sunday flight for s20 (which is still showing at the moment) and Jet2 are starting Kefalonia in s20, which could also be used instead of the weekly Flybe on this route

So are Flybe pulling out of charters because of all the changes happening with the company and Jet2 taking advantage?
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These will be for Jet2Hols in their own right. The current charters to EFL and PVK on BE are for Ionian Island Holidays as a charterer. Who knows - If Ionian decide there may still be a second BHX-PVK
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These will be for Jet2Hols in their own right. The current charters to EFL and PVK on BE are for Ionian Island Holidays as a charterer. Who knows - If Ionian decide there may still be a second BHX-PVK
The Jet2 flights to Lleida are for Neilson Ski, who have chartered the Jet2 aircraft

Ionian and Sunvil could still take seats on the new Jet2 services to Greece, we shall see
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 18:00
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A new series of charter flights went on sale today to Dubrovnik. Unusually they run weekly on Sundays from 9th Feb 2020 until 3rd May 2020 for cultural holidays in Croatia and Montenegro. Flights are expected to be operated by Croatia Airlines routing via Manchester
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 17:03
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February route Analysis

Credits: CAA for the monthly provisional passenger figures. Number of rotations: my own records and FR24 paid subscription and load factors - various seat map websites.

Note only four routes lost over Feb 2018 but not sure if that is good or bad as the overall list of destinations is average. Obviously these are just estimates base don the above and is only an indication of how the routes are doing.


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Interesting that of all the 5.000+ pax/month routes DUS (together with OTP) appears to have had the biggest growth with more than 30 per cent more pax - and that it is BHX 5th biggest route after DUB, AMS, DXB and CDG.
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