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MAEL & Record January figures
January 2019
Source: CAA - January 2019 781258 +5%...….2018... 746609...……2017.....776646...…..2016...….667733.
Only slighlyt above 2017 and I hope the CEO focusses on that rather than the increase year on year.
These figures are okay but nothing compared to Luton and Edinburgh and a couple of points below Manchester.
Will he be happy with his lot or show ambition as more and more friends and work colleagues head north and south travelling to such exotic locations as Lisbon, Florida, Nice etc
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Source: CAA - January 2019 781258 +5%...….2018... 746609...……2017.....776646...…..2016...….667733.
Only slight above 2017 and I hope the CEO focusses on that rather than the increase year on year.
Only slight above 2017 and I hope the CEO focusses on that rather than the increase year on year.
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EDI and LTN are now streets ahead of BHX in terms of pax numbers, growth, routes etc and will now always be. I'm sure their shareholders are happy enough so I don't know why BHX should settle for organic growth to keep theirs happy.
The strong point BHX has is it's portfolio of legacy carriers and appeal of these to business/frequent fliers for both short and long haul connections which LTN and BRS (despite their much stronger European networks) don't have.
Perhaps the new CEO should rename it London-Birmingham.....Has worked a treat for Luton and now give or take a couple of hiccups for Southend. Might put us back on airline marketing teams radar again. After all it's around 1hr 20 mins to Euston with Virgin from International as opposed to nearly an hour from Southend on a local commuter train.
I'll get my coat.....
The strong point BHX has is it's portfolio of legacy carriers and appeal of these to business/frequent fliers for both short and long haul connections which LTN and BRS (despite their much stronger European networks) don't have.
Perhaps the new CEO should rename it London-Birmingham.....Has worked a treat for Luton and now give or take a couple of hiccups for Southend. Might put us back on airline marketing teams radar again. After all it's around 1hr 20 mins to Euston with Virgin from International as opposed to nearly an hour from Southend on a local commuter train.
I'll get my coat.....
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Interesting figures above. There are some details that caught my attention, e.g. that Dusseldorf is such a strong destination from BHX (and als MAN) compared to other German airports including the two much larger airports of MUC and FRA. And what also strikes me is the extreme seasonality of Palma as a destination from the UK. You have dozens of daily flights to Palma from German airports in winter, so holiday patterns obvioulsy are very different (from the UK mostly beach goers, from Germany lots of holiday home owners etc.).
OT: No sure why everybody is so obsessed with the travel time from SEN to central London. The train to central London from STN is approx. 5 minutes quicker and that time is easily made up by not having to use a people mover and take an extended walk to the station, queue at immigration/security etc.
OT: No sure why everybody is so obsessed with the travel time from SEN to central London. The train to central London from STN is approx. 5 minutes quicker and that time is easily made up by not having to use a people mover and take an extended walk to the station, queue at immigration/security etc.
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EDI and LTN are now streets ahead of BHX in terms of pax numbers, growth, routes etc and will now always be. I'm sure their shareholders are happy enough so I don't know why BHX should settle for organic growth to keep theirs happy.
The strong point BHX has is it's portfolio of legacy carriers and appeal of these to business/frequent fliers for both short and long haul connections which LTN and BRS (despite their much stronger European networks) don't have.
Perhaps the new CEO should rename it London-Birmingham.....Has worked a treat for Luton and now give or take a couple of hiccups for Southend. Might put us back on airline marketing teams radar again. After all it's around 1hr 20 mins to Euston with Virgin from International as opposed to nearly an hour from Southend on a local commuter train.
I'll get my coat.....
The strong point BHX has is it's portfolio of legacy carriers and appeal of these to business/frequent fliers for both short and long haul connections which LTN and BRS (despite their much stronger European networks) don't have.
Perhaps the new CEO should rename it London-Birmingham.....Has worked a treat for Luton and now give or take a couple of hiccups for Southend. Might put us back on airline marketing teams radar again. After all it's around 1hr 20 mins to Euston with Virgin from International as opposed to nearly an hour from Southend on a local commuter train.
I'll get my coat.....
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January Route Analysis
[QUOTE=virginblue;10404835]Interesting figures above. There are some details that caught my attention, e.g. that Dusseldorf is such a strong destination from BHX (and als MAN) compared to other German airports including the two much larger airports of MUC and FRA. And what also strikes me is the extreme seasonality of Palma as a destination from the UK. You have dozens of daily flights to Palma from German airports in winter, so holiday patterns obvioulsy are very different (from the UK mostly beach goers, from Germany lots of holiday home owners etc.).
For BHX the links between the Midlands and Ruhr manufacturing bases have remained strong but in general BHX has always edged Manchester on the DUS route although even that has changed recently and Flybe seem to be redirecting the night-stop service to Manchester. Below is the January route analysis - usual credits CAA for the passenger figures, FR24 paid subscription for the rotations and load factor is estimated using various seat-map and airline websites.
Agadir and Vienna are ones that stand out ones for the wrong reasons but overall for January these are very good. I have added last years figures from my spreadsheet as well to compare and around two thirds see increased load factors but of course whether this improved yields we will probably never know.
Obviously probably a bit early to comment on the Flybe figures but some of these would have been booked after the press release of the intention to sell but only a few after the Virgin sale was announced.
Note. Found an error in Turkish and should have been obvious to me as the load factor was way high - average 116 pax 75%. No idea how I got to that figure.
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For BHX the links between the Midlands and Ruhr manufacturing bases have remained strong but in general BHX has always edged Manchester on the DUS route although even that has changed recently and Flybe seem to be redirecting the night-stop service to Manchester. Below is the January route analysis - usual credits CAA for the passenger figures, FR24 paid subscription for the rotations and load factor is estimated using various seat-map and airline websites.
Agadir and Vienna are ones that stand out ones for the wrong reasons but overall for January these are very good. I have added last years figures from my spreadsheet as well to compare and around two thirds see increased load factors but of course whether this improved yields we will probably never know.
Obviously probably a bit early to comment on the Flybe figures but some of these would have been booked after the press release of the intention to sell but only a few after the Virgin sale was announced.
Note. Found an error in Turkish and should have been obvious to me as the load factor was way high - average 116 pax 75%. No idea how I got to that figure.
Pete
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"LONDON - MIDLANDS'(LMA?) has a certain ring about it if Long Marston has done with it ;-)
Quite right, it's not the train journey time to/from London that is the issue, the Birmingham conurbation is too big for its airport to be yet another "London" airport.
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Airlineroute reporting that Turkish will use the 7M9 from late May and indeed booking engines showing an all MAX operation most days - the morning is a 7M8 and afternoon the 7M9.
Obviously this summer sees the restoration of double daily and probably a seat increase as the 7M9 offers up to 169 seats although last summer did see several 739;s with the same capacity but the schedule was only 12 a week.
Ryanair loading winter 2019/20 with the only possible surprise is that Porto is bookable for most of the winter. It has operated in winter before and had moderate loads and allegedly rubbish yields and vanished completely for a few years. Of the few flights bookable the frequencies are the same as this winter although Verona showing just weekly.
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Obviously this summer sees the restoration of double daily and probably a seat increase as the 7M9 offers up to 169 seats although last summer did see several 739;s with the same capacity but the schedule was only 12 a week.
Ryanair loading winter 2019/20 with the only possible surprise is that Porto is bookable for most of the winter. It has operated in winter before and had moderate loads and allegedly rubbish yields and vanished completely for a few years. Of the few flights bookable the frequencies are the same as this winter although Verona showing just weekly.
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Due to fly next Saturday from BHX to LPA via BRU on the 6.20am flight . I can see the last two 6.20 flights have been cancelled and tomorrow's flight is as well. Should I be worried?
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Don't know about the other days you mentioned but today's SN cancellations are weather related, both arrivals cancelled today (meaning tomorrow's 06.20 is) as well as a BE110 from AMS due 18.20. I see the Jet2 Grenoble diverted away from BHX as well and a whole host of flights this afternoon and evening are delayed due to earlier strong winds.
I don't know of any other reasons why there have been so many SN cancellations recently, I can only assume it's related to the CR9 whereby the knock on effects of disruption are more difficult to catch up with than with the SN mainline fleet. SN are treating BHX with the shabby end of the stick for a route that always shows consistely high fares and has good LF's.
I'm guessing your on a mileage burn trip or are there no LPA flights on the day you want to fly?
I don't know of any other reasons why there have been so many SN cancellations recently, I can only assume it's related to the CR9 whereby the knock on effects of disruption are more difficult to catch up with than with the SN mainline fleet. SN are treating BHX with the shabby end of the stick for a route that always shows consistely high fares and has good LF's.
I'm guessing your on a mileage burn trip or are there no LPA flights on the day you want to fly?
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Need to get to a wedding at 5pm and the first direct flight arrives at that time on Saturday. Wife is a teacher so we can't go the day before. Thanks for the replies . It puts my mind at rest a little
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Jet2 S20
Impressive growth again.
Budapest (2pw) carries on from winter and new routes are Nice (3pw), Murcia Corvera (2pw) and Kefalonia (1pw)
I haven't had time to plough through the schedules on the likes of ALC/PMI, but I've found the following frequency increases:
Antalya from 4 to 6 weekly
Dalaman from 5 to 6 weekly
Burgas, Corfu, Dubrovnik, and Pisa 2 to 3 weekly
Chania, Izmir and Verona from 1 to 2 weekly
Lanzarote from 6 weekly to daily
Split is 2 weekly all summer instead of just July-August
Larnaca from 3 to 4 weekly
Only real disappointment as far as I can see is no growth on Rome or Venice
Budapest (2pw) carries on from winter and new routes are Nice (3pw), Murcia Corvera (2pw) and Kefalonia (1pw)
I haven't had time to plough through the schedules on the likes of ALC/PMI, but I've found the following frequency increases:
Antalya from 4 to 6 weekly
Dalaman from 5 to 6 weekly
Burgas, Corfu, Dubrovnik, and Pisa 2 to 3 weekly
Chania, Izmir and Verona from 1 to 2 weekly
Lanzarote from 6 weekly to daily
Split is 2 weekly all summer instead of just July-August
Larnaca from 3 to 4 weekly
Only real disappointment as far as I can see is no growth on Rome or Venice
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Sending an A350 on 2nd April - heard two versions as to why, the first to celebrate the third anniversary of ops (even though it started 30 March?). The second version is to test out for a permanent upgrade.
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Qatar & Turkish
Turkish - Already showing as an A333 tomorrow no doubt bring back the MAX pax which never quite made it.
Jet2 2020 - Appears to 12 based at least in June so up 2 aircraft on 2019 but gaps on some days.
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According to Twitter- Air India are suspending Birmingham-Delhi and Amritsar due to the longer routing caused by the closure of Pakistani airspace. The link isn't showing but user is SeanM1997.
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According to Twitter- Air India are suspending Birmingham-Delhi and Amritsar due to the longer routing caused by the closure of Pakistani airspace. The link isn't showing but user is SeanM1997.
https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status...78708097830912
https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status...78708097830912
BHX - Amritsar pre Pakistan Airspace restrictions between 8.02 flying time to 8.37 and since the restrictions 11.14 - 11.41 - it also most drops as far south as Mumbai before turning west.
Delhi pre restrictions 8.27 - 9.03 and with restrictions 10.48-11.13 (today)
Credit: FR24
I can't believe many airlines even AI could take that hit for much longe on what is to be fair a secondary destination like BHX.
Proof in the pudding will be how quick they return when it is all sorted...………..if of course it does get sorted.
Unfortunate really with Turkmenistan not operating either.
Air India DEL-MAD also suspended so not just BHX.
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