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Old 15th Nov 2018, 08:11
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EK baggage handling

There has been negative comment about baggage handling for EK
My experience off EK37 on Tuesday evening was fine,the only complaint was the escalator down to Passport Control was,as usual,taken out of action and there was a queue for the tiny lift.
Once in the hall we were through in less than 3 minutes (3 aircraft in) and our luggage was already on the belt.
Long may it continue...
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Originally Posted by ssflyer
There has been negative comment about baggage handling for EK
My experience off EK37 on Tuesday evening was fine,the only complaint was the escalator down to Passport Control was,as usual,taken out of action and there was a queue for the tiny lift.
Once in the hall we were through in less than 3 minutes (3 aircraft in) and our luggage was already on the belt.
Long may it continue...
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Lucky you! Our experience of EK39 was dreadful but I guess in hindsight it WAS Midday ''rush hour" and BHX can't be expected to deal with this every day event.
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Blue Air/Diversions

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A great pity if true. I flew this route in March and the flight was excellent both ways - including free drinks and a hot meal! Just like flying in days gone by - I'm wondering if they are having a route and aircraft shuffle at LCA in response to the loss of Cobalt.

We are left with just one Blue Air route to OTP, although they are increasing the frequency I seem to remember reading?

I guess it will have to be Jet2 next time....the Jet2 juggernaut rolls on.....
Blue Air schedule currently being loaded 4 a week same as last year until mid June then a new Wednesday service making 5 a week - in the end better than expected.

Diversions the overnight closures are not holding BHX back too much this week

Five from Southampton Wednesday

At least seven tonight - Bristol. Southend (2), London City (2) Stansted (2) - The Netjets seemed to be going to Stansted and then Luton but broke off on finals and headed north to BHX

Six from Bristol last Friday as well.

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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 21:44
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October passengers figures up 6.1%

BHX Press Release

After months of negative figures an impressive turnaround as the Monarch decreases work themselves out.

The bit to take out of these is "record October". 1,141,864 was the final figure and November should also be a record and the % increase greater.

Fairly quiet week a few Bristol diversions today but these are getting routine these days. However not much noted route news wise although Emirates operated both flights on 3 class aircraft but it is November.

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Pete,

A great set of figures indeed and a welcome move to positivity!

It is amazing to think it is already one year since the collapse of ZB, it only seems like minutes to me!

With increases for S19 from Jet2, TCX and TUI, lets hope it is a much brighter year for BHX than 2018. The cloud on the horizon of course is what will happen to BE, whatever does happen will see big changes for BHX, lets hope these are for the positive although I worry that both parties rumoured to be interested (IAG & Virgin) are looking at BE as an opportunity to feed traffic into LHR (and for Virgin MAN), I am not sure how BHX, SOU, EXT etc would fit into either parties current route networks, unless we see a return of something like BA Regional or Virgin Little Red (neither of which in previous incarnations were very successful).

Of course we also have a host of lost routes and carriers, now that BHX is perhaps in a more 'sustainable' place and assuming we now see some continued growth in pax, perhaps some of these routes will re-appear, one can only but hope as always with BHX....
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Originally Posted by GayFriendly
Pete,

A great set of figures indeed and a welcome move to positivity!

It is amazing to think it is already one year since the collapse of ZB, it only seems like minutes to me!

With increases for S19 from Jet2, TCX and TUI, lets hope it is a much brighter year for BHX than 2018. The cloud on the horizon of course is what will happen to BE, whatever does happen will see big changes for BHX, lets hope these are for the positive although I worry that both parties rumoured to be interested (IAG & Virgin) are looking at BE as an opportunity to feed traffic into LHR (and for Virgin MAN), I am not sure how BHX, SOU, EXT etc would fit into either parties current route networks, unless we see a return of something like BA Regional or Virgin Little Red (neither of which in previous incarnations were very successful).

Of course we also have a host of lost routes and carriers, now that BHX is perhaps in a more 'sustainable' place and assuming we now see some continued growth in pax, perhaps some of these routes will re-appear, one can only but hope as always with BHX....
TCX in S19 is down on this year
Jet 2 and TUI will hopefully be the main growth drivers
Hopefully BHX can back up to 13m but FlyBe is the big concern and they have well over 2m seats pa ex BHX
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Turkish Airlines in last week’s schedule update extended schedule listing into winter 2019/20 season, on/after 27OCT19. In preliminary schedule filing, additional routes to be served by 737 MAX 9 was filed, but not covered on Airlineroute.

Planned 737 MAX 9 service in W19 as follows.
Istanbul – Birmingham eff 28OCT19 4 weekly
Nice to see a 737 MAX on a regular schedule into Brum (courtesy of airlineroute)
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October international route analysis


Obviously you can see I haven't finished but I picked out the important/easy ones.

Qatar -OMG and it goes to show it doesn't matter how good loads are it means nothing in terms of yield otherwise Delhi would not have been slashed.........or there again we are on about Air India, Overall not too bad but of course the Monarch figures are filtering out although still some loads heading in the right direction or like Vienna just getting worse. Source: CAA for the passenger figures, FR24 for the rotations and aircraft types - Load Factors are estimated based on best estimates from various sources. You have to remember a lot of routes have the business class section moveable so you can never get an accurate load factor on Lufthansa, Air France etc. There must be diversion pax in some routes as Gdansk and Katowice would be over 100% as I don't think there were any extras

Special Credit: Scottie Dog for giving me an idiots guide and this one followed it!

Jet2 started their short season Ivalo today which I think is twice a week

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New CEO

Nick Barton previously of Luton
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Nick Barton previously of Luton
Cue the bar room HR directors popping up to say why he is the wrong person for the job!!!
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From the Luton Thread

Nick Barton is leaving Luton and will join BHX in January after four years with Luton and eight at Stansted, where he was managing director.
At Birmingham, he will oversee a £500 million upgrade and expansion. It is planned to grow the facility from the current 13 million passengers a year to 18 million.

At Luton he oversaw expansion from 12 million passengers to 18 million at a cost of £160 million. Watch the guy carefully as he might well cut the plans to the bone with a low rent finish like he did at Luton.
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Well, Brum will be spending £500m on what cost Luton £160m!
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Well, Brum will be spending £500m on what cost Luton £160m!
I imagine that this disparity may well have something to do with BHX looking to cater for full service carriers that expect some sort of level of service for passengers who have paid dearly for their business class tickets, whereas LTN caters pretty well exclusively for no frills carriers, who's customers might want, but won't get full service facilities - or at least I guess that is the thinking.
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Well he oversaw a huge growth at LTN in both pax figures and flights, I think he will be exactly the shot in the arm BHX needs to pull it out of its slumbers.

Yes, it will be a difficult act to balance the needs of full cost and loco airlines in terms of expansion (or the needs that we on this forum perceive them to be) but EDI have managed pretty well to do so with long haul, full service and loco (an FR base that serves over 50 destinations in summer, not to mention a big EZY base as well!) there is no reason why BHX can't keep its full service carriers happy whilst encouraging much needed growth in loco service destinations and frequency and who knows maybe some new long haul (OK that's probably too much to hope for...).

Will he chase after EZY, who knows?

I wish him all the best and I do think it is positive and exciting news for BHX, if only to see what direction he eventually takes the airport in once he has settled into the role
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Yes, it will be a difficult act to balance the needs of full cost and loco airlines in terms of expansion (or the needs that we on this forum perceive them to be) but EDI have managed pretty well to do so with long haul, full service and loco (an FR base that serves over 50 destinations in summer, not to mention a big EZY base as well!) there is no reason why BHX can't keep its full service carriers happy whilst encouraging much needed growth in loco service destinations and frequency and who knows maybe some new long haul (OK that's probably too much to hope for...).
EDI isn't 2 hours down the road from the two principal UK gateways for longhaul travel, and is a capital city with a big inbound tourist market. BHX does have a good business base however, and hopefully the new CEO won't lose sight of this in a dash to grow the "discounter" segment of the market. Not every passenger wants Aldi and Lidl service, some prefer Sainsburys and Waitrose. I'm sure he's bright enough not to!
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BHX will never replicate the hugely expanded network at EDI as you rightly point out they are in different markets and locations in terms of other airports.

My point is that EDI have mostly managed to allow legacy and low cost to flourish alongside each other. So has MAN who were IMO even later than BHX to wake up to the need to attract loco carriers but have done so very successfully.

Their business models must be flexible enough to do so. BHX needs to adapt its business model likewise to grow (faced with such intense competition for pax from MAN, LTN and perhaps BRS) as like it or not, growth at most UK regional airports in the past decade has been mostly loco

BHX needs to further look at its cost base and become more commercially attractive to airlines across all spectrums to enhance its network and hence attractiveness to pax.
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BHX needs to further look at its cost base and become more commercially attractive to airlines across all spectrums to enhance its network and hence attractiveness to pax.
Why BHX needs to charge such exorbitant fees to carriers is beyond me. Lets hope the new MD will look at this and do something about it.
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New CEO & November passenger figures

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Why BHX needs to charge such exorbitant fees to carriers is beyond me. Lets hope the new MD will look at this and do something about it.
You would hope this was made clear at interview. He might have conceded no major change of business model as part of the job or hopefully he can use his own ideas.

November 2018 - BIRMINGHAM.....824,531...... up...….7.44%

Highlights.....most core routes up although one that was down was actually good compared to other UK airports and one that was up was terrible still and no guesses where I am going with this.

Dubai....53489...……….446 pax….77% (18 3 class varying 489-519 seats) down 5%
Qatar.....8633...……….144 pax…..57% up 8%

Obviously not a great month for either but: -

STN-DXB...…...15385...…….256 per flight...……...72%...……. 354 seats
EDI-DXB---------11084...…….252 per flight...……...70%.........360 mainly with some 354 seats
GLA-DXB...…….32490...……272 per flight...……...76%
MAN-DXB...…...74346...…….413 per flight...……...75%...……Manchester load factor might be slightly higher depending on how many 489 seat config operated
NCL-DXB...…...18104...…….302 per flight...…….. 74%,,,,,,,,,,mix of 360/428 mainly the latter
BHX-DXB...…...53489...… .446 per flight..............77%

Qatar are grim everywhere with Cardiff 119 per flight 47%, BHX, 144 er flight 57%,, EDI 175 per flight 60% and Manchester 173 per flight 61%.


Turkish at BHX up 8% 10164 121 per flight around 75%.

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Manchester load factor might be slightly higher depending on how many 489 seat config operated
Apologies for going off topic, but always a bit baffled by these sorts of comments. We know that load factor isn't particulary relevant, but surely it should be calculated based on what the route is sold as rather than what actually turns up on the day i.e. the load factor of a poorly selling route is artificially inflated if a smaller/alternatively configured a/c is usedp?
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Load Factor

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Apologies for going off topic, but always a bit baffled by these sorts of comments. We know that load factor isn't particulary relevant, but surely it should be calculated based on what the route is sold as rather than what actually turns up on the day i.e. the load factor of a poorly selling route is artificially inflated if a smaller/alternatively configured a/c is usedp?
I do see your point but it is really to add a bit of context to show that often the expected aircraft has been changed. There is absolutely no way of knowing what seats were actually on sale although in respect of BHX, the 2 class A380 was changed 18 times over the two flights in November and these were known about months in advance and it was clear some flights were capped at 519 or 489 but I have no idea of how many. Same for Glasgow where I am sure they had a 98% load factor based on what was due but again no idea how many were planned at 428 two class rather than three class.

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