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New name?
I have a thought about the "masterplan" which I would only ever share annonymously.
If HS2 and the Birmingham Interchange do happen as planned it is predicted that the journey time to London Euston may fall to as little as 38 minutes. This would make BHX an attractive option for some people travelling to central London, and BHX would, in a way, become one of London's airports.
The airport and the city and the region would then have two options, either to market that new connectivity in some way, or to continue to market BHX solely as a gateway for Birmingham and the midlands region.
If HS2 and the Birmingham Interchange do happen as planned it is predicted that the journey time to London Euston may fall to as little as 38 minutes. This would make BHX an attractive option for some people travelling to central London, and BHX would, in a way, become one of London's airports.
The airport and the city and the region would then have two options, either to market that new connectivity in some way, or to continue to market BHX solely as a gateway for Birmingham and the midlands region.
Rail link to London post HS2 - A lot of work would need to be done to Birmingham "International' railway station to posh it up. Its a draughty old hole at the best of times.
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''Consultant Arup is carrying out both the architectural and engineering design for the Interchange Station alongside the design of HS2’s London terminus, Euston Station in a deal worth £60M to £70M.
The design for Interchange is now in the detailed design phase with station building plans to be submitted early next year, for a request for approval under Schedule 17 of the Act to the local planning authority''
https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/exclusive-hs2-birmingham-interchange-design-change-knocks-year-off-construction/10036869.article
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The master plan is 15 years, 2033 NOT 2023 !
Hence my comment.
The difficulty with the flights ex BHX will be cost, we all know any directs to BHX will attract a premium fare and low frequency. If you are flying to London do you choose multiple frequency and lower cost OR the prospect of a direct to BHX ?
Hence my comment.
The difficulty with the flights ex BHX will be cost, we all know any directs to BHX will attract a premium fare and low frequency. If you are flying to London do you choose multiple frequency and lower cost OR the prospect of a direct to BHX ?
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I have a thought about the "masterplan" which I would only ever share annonymously.
If HS2 and the Birmingham Interchange do happen as planned it is predicted that the journey time to London Euston may fall to as little as 38 minutes. This would make BHX an attractive option for some people travelling to central London, and BHX would, in a way, become one of London's airports.
The airport and the city and the region would then have two options, either to market that new connectivity in some way, or to continue to market BHX solely as a gateway for Birmingham and the midlands region.
If HS2 and the Birmingham Interchange do happen as planned it is predicted that the journey time to London Euston may fall to as little as 38 minutes. This would make BHX an attractive option for some people travelling to central London, and BHX would, in a way, become one of London's airports.
The airport and the city and the region would then have two options, either to market that new connectivity in some way, or to continue to market BHX solely as a gateway for Birmingham and the midlands region.
The marketing team could be clever in selling the airport as a London terminal but that would surely annoy people in the midlands.
another factor would be the cost of travel on the new trains. Price it too highly and it will be carrying air.
I know that you can purchase rail air fares from wherever to London Euston via BHX so wonder if airlines worked with the rail companies more, more people would fly via BHX. However the uptake of these fares are low. I’ve never seen one.
38 mins is nothing. At the moment the train takes 1hour10 mins and there are A LOT of season ticket holders travelling between these stations and a few who use BHX as their airport of choice.
(I now work for the railway hence in the know)
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it would be comparible to Gatwick and quicker than Heathrow if travelling via the Piccadilly line.
The marketing team could be clever in selling the airport as a London terminal but that would surely annoy people in the midlands.
another factor would be the cost of travel on the new trains. Price it too highly and it will be carrying air.
I know that you can purchase rail air fares from wherever to London Euston via BHX so wonder if airlines worked with the rail companies more, more people would fly via BHX. However the uptake of these fares are low. I’ve never seen one.
38 mins is nothing. At the moment the train takes 1hour10 mins and there are A LOT of season ticket holders travelling between these stations and a few who use BHX as their airport of choice.
(I now work for the railway hence in the know)
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Hey, here's an idea, let's just rename Britain 'London' and have done with it. It would save all those knowledge poor Americans having to worry themselves that the two things are actually different.
''Hi - where are you from?''
''I'm from England''
''Cool. What part of London do you live in?''
''Hi - where are you from?''
''I'm from England''
''Cool. What part of London do you live in?''
Hey, here's an idea, let's just rename Britain 'London' and have done with it. It would save all those knowledge poor Americans having to worry themselves that the two things are actually different.
''Hi - where are you from?''
''I'm from England''
''Cool. What part of London do you live in?''
''Hi - where are you from?''
''I'm from England''
''Cool. What part of London do you live in?''
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If you believe that you have not read the masterplan or looked at the artist impression of the expanded departure lounge which they are due to start work on Q1 2019.
As GF says, take a walk down the international pier. Nice and quiet and seats to sit on and a great view of the goings on.
If you believe that you have not read the masterplan or looked at the artist impression of the expanded departure lounge which they are due to start work on Q1 2019.
As GF says, take a walk down the international pier. Nice and quiet and seats to sit on and a great view of the goings on.
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Still, I understand why its Profit before Comfort.
Given that the actual business profit to do with the aircraft themselves is , apparently, so poor, they might be forgiven for closing the runway and building a Superstore on the land.
End of cynical Sunday.
And here's me thinking it was an Airport and not an extension of Merry Hill.
Still, I understand why its Profit before Comfort.
Given that the actual business profit to do with the aircraft themselves is , apparently, so poor, they might be forgiven for closing the runway and building a Superstore on the land.
End of cynical Sunday.
Still, I understand why its Profit before Comfort.
Given that the actual business profit to do with the aircraft themselves is , apparently, so poor, they might be forgiven for closing the runway and building a Superstore on the land.
End of cynical Sunday.
Much as we like to denigrate them, many people actually like airport shops (somebody I work with memorably said "I don't feel my holidays started until I've bought a new handbag"). With airlines looking to relentlessly cut costs, the airports have to make money some how
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I'm waiting for the Christmas offer from any of them to match Jet2's 1ltr Gordon's 47% proof Gin or especially the delighful Captain Mrgans Spiced Rum - both effectively at 12 bottles a pound! Hic! Lol!
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Any chance we could get back on track? things seem to have 'tippled' over here
I'll try to help...Jet2 recently launched their Xmas 19-20 city programme. Still keeping EWR off the cards, but plenty more for Iceland and Northern light flights,
Also an increase of flights to VIE and PRG, with BUD and KRK new additions as well (albeit for a limited series)
I'll try to help...Jet2 recently launched their Xmas 19-20 city programme. Still keeping EWR off the cards, but plenty more for Iceland and Northern light flights,
Also an increase of flights to VIE and PRG, with BUD and KRK new additions as well (albeit for a limited series)
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BE
Well we might all be turning to supermarket spirits with today's news that BE is more than likely going up for sale. Too early to tell what will happen and not fair on anyone to speculate as nothing confirmed but not looking good. Just over a year on from the Monarch collapse I really fear for the staff and BHX in general. At best I think we will see a much slimmed down airline and yet more BHX routes chopped. Fingers crossed they find a buyer and it's not private equity. Trouble is - who will buy?
Well we might all be turning to supermarket spirits with today's news that BE is more than likely going up for sale. Too early to tell what will happen and not fair on anyone to speculate as nothing confirmed but not looking good. Just over a year on from the Monarch collapse I really fear for the staff and BHX in general. At best I think we will see a much slimmed down airline and yet more BHX routes chopped. Fingers crossed they find a buyer and it's not private equity. Trouble is - who will buy?
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No mention of improving/ expanding things for the poor old sardine-crammed Pax I see.
We've already given up on BHX and its cramped facilities its already expensive car parking and wall to wall retail and have jumped ship to EMA for 2019. Our airline of choice flys from both to our destinations at similar prices and often better timings.
Only time will tell if we've done a wrong 'un.
We've already given up on BHX and its cramped facilities its already expensive car parking and wall to wall retail and have jumped ship to EMA for 2019. Our airline of choice flys from both to our destinations at similar prices and often better timings.
Only time will tell if we've done a wrong 'un.
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And FWIW out of 3 Jet2 trips this year LS1229/1230 BHX - FUE - BHX, the Airbridge was only used twice, once outbund and once on Arrival. The other 4 times were via the good old bus or walk - just lke EMA will be, I guess.
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