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Old 27th Sep 2018, 09:15
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BACF Gone (?)

I've just received an e-mail from BA cancelling my Florence booking for next year. As Palma and Malaga are no longer bookable either, it looks as though BA have flown the nest (again).

It's a real shame. On the flights I used this year, the aircraft was almost full (as was 'C'), and August was shewing around 94%. It was also noticeable on my trip that there were quite a few Italian nationals using the service.

FLR is still bookable from City, Stanstead and Manchester.

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BA, Thomas Cook & easyjet

Originally Posted by RealFish
I've just received an e-mail from BA cancelling my Florence booking for next year. As Palma and Malaga are no longer bookable either, it looks as though BA have flown the nest (again).

It's a real shame. On the flights I used this year, the aircraft was almost full (as was 'C'), and August was shewing around 94%. It was also noticeable on my trip that there were quite a few Italian nationals using the service.

FLR is still bookable from City, Stanstead and Manchester.
It does look like bye bye BA again.

In a further kick in the teeth - Thomas Cook have removed Varna and SKG from sale for summer 19 adding to Paphos and Cosimo leaving 7 flights fewer next season with all flying on based aircraft - still 4 based not one away based flight as far as I could see.

easyjet are maintaining their Belfast schedule in high summer other than the third Wednesday flight so some good news. Geneva remains three a week as well - phew!

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 21:41
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It's always possible (I have no inside knowledge) that the BACF flights have been block booked by specialist tour operators or a local travel agent. I notice, on a random date I checked, that the FLR flight from EDI had only 7 seats left, which suggests that much of the capacity had been chartered.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 17:41
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Air India w18/19

Reducing services from 7pw to 6pw from 19 Oct 2018 with the Friday service being suspended
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Air India

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Reducing services from 7pw to 6pw from 19 Oct 2018 with the Friday service being suspended
Yes Airline route have woken up from their deep sleep and read my post of 9th September - 3 weeks for them is not bad but just about sums up BHX's importance

Emirates by the way on that very same website are reported to have downgraded loads of services in November (Rome 3 -2, PRG 2-1, BCN A388-B77W and loads of Southern hemisphere cuts) but BHX still showing as double daily A388.

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Old 30th Sep 2018, 09:57
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Originally Posted by jon01
Emirates winter 18/19

The lunchtime EK39/40 flight will be downgraded from an A380 to a B777-300ER from 7th November 2018

It is not known if this is permanent or temporary

Looks like this plan has been scrubbed due to a shortage of Boeing pilots!
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 10:01
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That would make sense because the Edinburgh flights have been put to 5x weekly for the same reason.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 11:08
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Arvidsjaur charters

I have seen reports of 2x weekly charter flights between Birmingham and either Arvidsjaur in the far north of Sweden or Kittila in north Finland during the winter. These are aimed primarily at the car/truck industry for winter testing of vehicles (there is a test centre very near Arvidsjaur airport) but the operator is reportedly happy to take money from private individuals as well. I have seen FlyCar definitely will operate from various airports in Germany with a large local car industry but does anyone know about the possibility of flights from Birmingham ?
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I have seen reports of 2x weekly charter flights between Birmingham and either Arvidsjaur in the far north of Sweden or Kittila in north Finland during the winter. These are aimed primarily at the car/truck industry for winter testing of vehicles (there is a test centre very near Arvidsjaur airport) but the operator is reportedly happy to take money from private individuals as well. I have seen FlyCar definitely will operate from various airports in Germany with a large local car industry but does anyone know about the possibility of flights from Birmingham ?
Not sure about Kiittila, but FlyCar has a timetable on its website that does list flights between Birmingham and Arvidsjaur.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:29
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Primera

According to STN thread, Primera have gone bust today with a statement being issued by the airline to say it has ceased operations with immediate effect. Aircraft have been impounded at STN.

One year on from when ZB went down another goes.

Good luck for all those now sadly out of work. I flew Primera AGP-BHX two days ago (Saturday) and was very impressed by the aircraft and crew who were all genuinely friendly and handled a medical event on board with utmost professionalism. I commiserated with them about the base at BHX closing, not knowing they would be no longer flying as two days later. Sad times, however one cannot help to think that the maverick, un-planned expansion at such speed must have been a contributory factor in its demise.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 09:44
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I flew BHX to AGP yesterday afternoon they must have known it explains the captain's final announcement. Very sad great crew and service and clean aircraft etc. Feel sorry for staff. But last year I was a Monarch casualty on that day so escaped the same fate this time.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 10:27
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
I flew BHX to AGP yesterday afternoon they must have known it explains the captain's final announcement. Very sad great crew and service and clean aircraft etc. Feel sorry for staff. But last year I was a Monarch casualty on that day so escaped the same fate this time.
Sad indeed. Can you paraphrase Captains announcement?
​​​​​​ I hope your return flight sorted.
We too were Monarch casualties on Oct 2 last year - in FUE at the start of a holiday. Hotel was brilliant about it all and eventual return flight was a Qatar 320 on a BA code, more or less on time. Although Jet2 have done us proud on our flights since then, great service and, so far, relatively new aircraft, we still miss that "we're all in this together" atmosphere of the Monarch crews.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 11:13
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Primera @ bhx

My better half flew out Friday & back Sunday to Malaga, she knows little about aviation but said very nice flight with good crew, nice clean aircraft & on time both ways. Also said 3/4 or more full on both flights
We had booked to grand canaries for February that got cancelled...... but we did get full refund within 14 days.
All in all a bit of a shame it didn’t work out for Primera, but I have to say the last month or so they were making some strange business ideas/plans.
BHX has now lost even more of the popular Mediterranean flights & after the BA announcement of them pulling flights from Brum it’s not been a good week or so, on the plus side I suppose at least there will be some more suitable 737 that Jet2 May want !
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 21:33
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BACF

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...hedule-in-s19/

BACF to cease their routes from BHX at the end of S18

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BACF & Ryanair

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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...hedule-in-s19/

BACF to cease their routes from BHX at the end of S18

BACF - Reported on the 27th September on this thread and just routesonline once again just catching up what has been known for over a week.

Ryanair

Two of the BACF routes cancelled see increases next summer from Ryanair - Palma from 7 a week to 9, Malaga from 9 a week to 11 and Alicante from 10 a week to 11 although they were not all bookable earlier. These frequencies are similar to the high season 2018 ones but now start in early April or late March. Still 5 based departures Tuesday and Saturday but still expecting a revision to stay 4 based but you never know.

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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 07:34
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
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Two of the BACF routes cancelled see increases next summer from Ryanair - Palma from 7 a week to 9, Malaga from 9 a week to 11 and Alicante from 10 a week to 11

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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 07:37
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Six channel thanks for your concern only booked a single flight. I have am apartment pon the Costa del Sol so live there and in UK. The captain did the usual except he didn't looking forward to us travelling with Primera Air again and looking back now the staff were really professional however with hindsight I now realise they were somewhat unhappy. I've only flown twice with them but would have happily continued to use them. I hope they all find new jobs soon
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
Six channel thanks for your concern only booked a single flight. I have am apartment pon the Costa del Sol so live there and in UK. The captain did the usual except he didn't looking forward to us travelling with Primera Air again and looking back now the staff were really professional however with hindsight I now realise they were somewhat unhappy. I've only flown twice with them but would have happily continued to use them. I hope they all find new jobs soon
Us too. A mini-Monarch situation for both cabin and flight crew and, as always with these things, at the wrong end of the 'season'. Maybe they can get on the Jet2 hiring Interviews?
We wish them well.

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Winter 2018/9 sun routes release and some healthy increases.
Tenerife - Virtually a minimum of 9 a week often 10 and occasionally more at Christmas (8 this winter)

Arrecife - Starts at 6 at week in then 5 in December to mid Feb before going daily from half-term until the end of April (5 this November)

Las Palmas - Starts at 4 a week in November then 3 by mid month and remains 3 until it goes back to 4 mid-February (3 this November)

Fuerteventura - 3 all winter (up from 2 this coming winter)

Alicante - November up to 11 then down to 7, December 7 (not daily!) 5 in January, Feb starts at 5 and ends with 7 a week, 8 a week in March and around 9 April

Palma - Starts in November at 5 week before reducing to 2 until early January when in breaks until back to 2 weekly in February, then 3 a week in March and at least daily April (stops mid November)

Malaga - Nov up to 7 and ends at 5 until mid Feb then 6 and 7 March at least daily in April (5/6 in November 2018)

Faro - Operates all winter, November starts at 5 a week but ends at 2 a week (stops mid November 2018), Then 2 until February but ends the month with 5 a week, March 6 and April at least daily (stops Mid November in 2018)

FNC - 2 no change

Malta - November weekly until mid month and then from February

Paphos- Starts at 5 a week in November then reduces to 2 until February then 3 March and 4 April (once weekly by the end of November 2018 - February)

Larnaca - November then April (no change)Antalya - Starts at 5 a week in November reducing to 2, stays at 2 in Dec, 1 a week in January then 2 in February, 3 in March and April

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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Winter 2018/9 sun routes release and some healthy increases.
Tenerife - Virtually a minimum of 9 a week often 10 and occasionally more at Christmas (8 this winter)

Arrecife - Starts at 6 at week in then 5 in December to mid Feb before going daily from half-term until the end of April (5 this November)

Las Palmas - Starts at 4 a week in November then 3 by mid month and remains 3 until it goes back to 4 mid-February (3 this November)

Fuerteventura - 3 all winter (up from 2 this coming winter)

Alicante - November up to 11 then down to 7, December 7 (not daily!) 5 in January, Feb starts at 5 and ends with 7 a week, 8 a week in March and around 9 April

Palma - Starts in November at 5 week before reducing to 2 until early January when in breaks until back to 2 weekly in February, then 3 a week in March and at least daily April (stops mid November)

Malaga - Nov up to 7 and ends at 5 until mid Feb then 6 and 7 March at least daily in April (5/6 in November 2018)

Faro - Operates all winter, November starts at 5 a week but ends at 2 a week (stops mid November 2018), Then 2 until February but ends the month with 5 a week, March 6 and April at least daily (stops Mid November in 2018)

FNC - 2 no change

Malta - November weekly until mid month and then from February

Paphos- Starts at 5 a week in November then reduces to 2 until February then 3 March and 4 April (once weekly by the end of November 2018 - February)

Larnaca - November then April (no change)Antalya - Starts at 5 a week in November reducing to 2, stays at 2 in Dec, 1 a week in January then 2 in February, 3 in March and April

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Brilliant stuff, OltonPete.
Love the Saturday FUE Winter addition. All the FUE Winter timings are at sensible o'clock unlike the current Summer ones which are all second aircraft rotations on the back of LS1203 /4 thus LS1229 arrives at FUE mid/late evening and worse, LS1230 is a red-eye return, arriving back at BHX when the ground handling are past caring, not that they do anyway.
Be nice to see LS1229/30 and 1203/4 swap rotations.
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