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The start of season report for winter 17/18 is out, courtesy of ACL Airport Coordination Ltd:
American Airlines CANCELLED Cancel their New York – JFK scheduled service.
bmi regional NEW Plan to introduce a 6x p.w. scheduled service to Gothenburg – GOT (cont' from S17).
bmi regional NEW Plan to introduce a 6x p.w. scheduled service to Nuremberg – NUE (cont' from S17).
Brussels Airlines CHANGE Reduce frequency from 23x to 17x per week on Brussels – BRU.
Emirates CHANGE Reduce frequency from 21x to 14x per week on Dubai – DBX.
Emirates CHANGE Will introduce an A380 aircraft on the EK39/40 service (lunchtime) taking EK upto double daily A380 operations at BHX.
Eurowings NEW Plan to introduce a 2x p.w. scheduled service to Hamburg – HAM. Operated by Germanwings – 4U during S17.
Eurowings NEW Plan to introduce a 2x p.w. scheduled service to Salzburg – SZG starting in early December.
Eurowings NEW Plan to introduce a 4x p.w. scheduled service to Vienna – VIE.
Flybe NEW Plan to introduce a 6x p.w. scheduled service to Hamburg – HAM (cont' from S17).
Flybe CANCELLED Cancel their 12x p.w. Rotterdam – RTM scheduled service.
Flybe CANCELLED Cancel their 3x p.w. Nantes – NTE scheduled service.
Flybe CANCELLED Cancel their 7x p.w. Luxemburg – LUX scheduled service.
Germania CANCELLED Cancel their 1x p.w. Chambery – CMF charter service.
Jet2.com NEW Four aircraft base at BHX, operating to Southern European destinations. *Update, since this was compiled, Jet2 is now 5 based, becoming 6 from Dec*
Monarch Airlines CHANGE At the time of writing of this report, Monarch Airlines' AOC remains suspended and the slots remain allocated to the carrier.
Norwegian CANCELLED Is no longer planning to operate during W17. Routes terminated include Malaga – AGP, Las Palmas - LPA and Tenerife South – TFS.
Ryanair CANCELLED Cancel their 2x p.w. Palma-PMI scheduled service.
Small Planet Airlines CANCELLED Will terminate their 1x week service to Tenerife South- TFS.
Thomas Cook (UK) NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. scheduled service to Marsa Alam - RMF and Amilar Cabral – SID.
Thomas Cook (UK) CANCELLED Will terminate their 1x week service to Las Palmas – LPA.
Thomson Airways CANCELLED their 1x p.w. Punta Cana – PUJ charter service.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. every two weeks charter service to Goa – GOA.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. every two weeks charter service to Phuket – HKT.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. scheduled service to Hurganda – HRG.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. scheduled service to La Romana – LRM
Turkmenistan Airlines CHANGE Plan to increase frequency from 3x to 5x per week on Ashgabat – ASB..
United Airlines CANCELLED Will terminate their 4x p.w. service to New York, Newark – EWR.
Vueling CANCELLED Will terminate their services to Malaga-AGP, Alicante – ALC and Tenerife South – TFS.
Wizz Air CANCELLED Will terminate their 3x week service to Sofia – SOF.
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A total of 317,269 seats down on the previous winter, but I believe Jet2 have added more seats since this report was compiled (Monarch had a total of 494,824 seats available)
Notable seat increases:
Aer Lingus
Blue Air
bmi regional
Eurowings
Jet2
Thomas Cook
American Airlines CANCELLED Cancel their New York – JFK scheduled service.
bmi regional NEW Plan to introduce a 6x p.w. scheduled service to Gothenburg – GOT (cont' from S17).
bmi regional NEW Plan to introduce a 6x p.w. scheduled service to Nuremberg – NUE (cont' from S17).
Brussels Airlines CHANGE Reduce frequency from 23x to 17x per week on Brussels – BRU.
Emirates CHANGE Reduce frequency from 21x to 14x per week on Dubai – DBX.
Emirates CHANGE Will introduce an A380 aircraft on the EK39/40 service (lunchtime) taking EK upto double daily A380 operations at BHX.
Eurowings NEW Plan to introduce a 2x p.w. scheduled service to Hamburg – HAM. Operated by Germanwings – 4U during S17.
Eurowings NEW Plan to introduce a 2x p.w. scheduled service to Salzburg – SZG starting in early December.
Eurowings NEW Plan to introduce a 4x p.w. scheduled service to Vienna – VIE.
Flybe NEW Plan to introduce a 6x p.w. scheduled service to Hamburg – HAM (cont' from S17).
Flybe CANCELLED Cancel their 12x p.w. Rotterdam – RTM scheduled service.
Flybe CANCELLED Cancel their 3x p.w. Nantes – NTE scheduled service.
Flybe CANCELLED Cancel their 7x p.w. Luxemburg – LUX scheduled service.
Germania CANCELLED Cancel their 1x p.w. Chambery – CMF charter service.
Jet2.com NEW Four aircraft base at BHX, operating to Southern European destinations. *Update, since this was compiled, Jet2 is now 5 based, becoming 6 from Dec*
Monarch Airlines CHANGE At the time of writing of this report, Monarch Airlines' AOC remains suspended and the slots remain allocated to the carrier.
Norwegian CANCELLED Is no longer planning to operate during W17. Routes terminated include Malaga – AGP, Las Palmas - LPA and Tenerife South – TFS.
Ryanair CANCELLED Cancel their 2x p.w. Palma-PMI scheduled service.
Small Planet Airlines CANCELLED Will terminate their 1x week service to Tenerife South- TFS.
Thomas Cook (UK) NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. scheduled service to Marsa Alam - RMF and Amilar Cabral – SID.
Thomas Cook (UK) CANCELLED Will terminate their 1x week service to Las Palmas – LPA.
Thomson Airways CANCELLED their 1x p.w. Punta Cana – PUJ charter service.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. every two weeks charter service to Goa – GOA.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. every two weeks charter service to Phuket – HKT.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. scheduled service to Hurganda – HRG.
Thomson Airways NEW Plan to introduce a 1x p.w. scheduled service to La Romana – LRM
Turkmenistan Airlines CHANGE Plan to increase frequency from 3x to 5x per week on Ashgabat – ASB..
United Airlines CANCELLED Will terminate their 4x p.w. service to New York, Newark – EWR.
Vueling CANCELLED Will terminate their services to Malaga-AGP, Alicante – ALC and Tenerife South – TFS.
Wizz Air CANCELLED Will terminate their 3x week service to Sofia – SOF.
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A total of 317,269 seats down on the previous winter, but I believe Jet2 have added more seats since this report was compiled (Monarch had a total of 494,824 seats available)
Notable seat increases:
Aer Lingus
Blue Air
bmi regional
Eurowings
Jet2
Thomas Cook
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Primera Air to Toronto from 23 June 2018, 3pw
Update: The Birmingham Airport news release is wrong, stating that flight commence in May (I thought they read these forums, or maybe it was just PK when he was there)
Update: The Birmingham Airport news release is wrong, stating that flight commence in May (I thought they read these forums, or maybe it was just PK when he was there)
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The Primera Schedule as it currently stands...
Monday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Tuesday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF055 BHX 16:10 – YYZ 19:40
A/C2 PF056 YYZ 21:10 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Wednesday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Thursday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF055 BHX 16:10 – YYZ 19:40
A/C2 PF056 YYZ 21:10 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Friday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Saturday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF055 BHX 16:10 – YYZ 19:40
A/C2 PF056 YYZ 21:10 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Sunday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Monday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Tuesday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF055 BHX 16:10 – YYZ 19:40
A/C2 PF056 YYZ 21:10 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Wednesday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Thursday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF055 BHX 16:10 – YYZ 19:40
A/C2 PF056 YYZ 21:10 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Friday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Saturday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF055 BHX 16:10 – YYZ 19:40
A/C2 PF056 YYZ 21:10 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
Sunday
A/C1 PF051 BHX 17:45 – EWR 21:00
A/C1 PF052 EWR 22:30 – BHX 10:30 (+1)
A/C2 PF053 BHX 17:15 – BOS 20:15
A/C2 PF054 BOS 21:45 – BHX 09:30 (+1)
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It is Primera own press release that is wrong ! It is STN that is due to start in May (according to booking engine) and not BHX as stated in the PR
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Great news from Primera - and perhaps method to Transat's madness?
Primera quite literally have to work for BHX, the airport has taken a lot of knocks recently with airlines pulling out. 3 scheduled transatlantic destinations is a good result bearing in mind the disappearance of AA, UA and TS.
I have seen increased advertising for Primera incl. The Metro, Leamington Spa station and around the Bull Ring. But it's going to need a lot more than that to make the general public aware and more importantly, get them booking!
Primera quite literally have to work for BHX, the airport has taken a lot of knocks recently with airlines pulling out. 3 scheduled transatlantic destinations is a good result bearing in mind the disappearance of AA, UA and TS.
I have seen increased advertising for Primera incl. The Metro, Leamington Spa station and around the Bull Ring. But it's going to need a lot more than that to make the general public aware and more importantly, get them booking!
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In your post 76 you wrote that TS was still very much alive for summer 2018 but in your above post you have included them as disappearing along with AA and UA.
Are TS still at BHX for summer 2018 as there seems to be some confusion as to them remaining.
In your post 76 you wrote that TS was still very much alive for summer 2018 but in your above post you have included them as disappearing along with AA and UA.
Are TS still at BHX for summer 2018 as there seems to be some confusion as to them remaining.
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Well I guess with the A310s leaving the fleet at TS they probably felt that a once weekly summer only flight from BHX to YYZ wasn't viable with a A330 and the aircraft would make more money elsewhere but it's a shame to lose another long haul airline at BHX.
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Norwegian are stopping all flights to Spain from BHX. Yet another drop in capacity, I know current based airlines are trying to increase capacity to fill the gap after monarch but will it be enough? Prime time to attract some new airlines (I heard a rumour of easyjet but is probably someone's pipe dream).
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I believe that Norwegian are ceasing many flights to the UK from Spain, not just BHX. With the Jet 8 based aircraft for 2018 this takes capacity on the main holiday routes to the level of that before Jet 8 arrived and Monarch left, somewhere between the capacity offered in summer 2015/2016. Of course Veuling have all but withdrawn as well to the holiday hot spots.
The Easyjet rumor surfaces every now and again but always seems to have little substance, more likely is an increase from Ryanair. Ryanair were not able to advertise the usual extra flights/saving holidays bye bye Monarch fanfare this winter as they had just cancelled flights as there was on one to fly them. As this settles down and passes into history I would expect some increase for summer 2018.
Capacity will not reach 2017 levels but perhaps the yield per seat may be better for those that remain.
The Easyjet rumor surfaces every now and again but always seems to have little substance, more likely is an increase from Ryanair. Ryanair were not able to advertise the usual extra flights/saving holidays bye bye Monarch fanfare this winter as they had just cancelled flights as there was on one to fly them. As this settles down and passes into history I would expect some increase for summer 2018.
Capacity will not reach 2017 levels but perhaps the yield per seat may be better for those that remain.
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As a very frequent user AGP-BHX losing Norwegian, Vueling and Monarch is quite a blow, add Vueling good BCN connections gone too, not looking good. I'm not aware of Monarch's yield but during last winter period the A321's were pretty much full all the time, including the rows of extra legroom seats. It looks like a few connecting flights with Brussels Airlines, Eurowings, Swiss etc. I always take extra legroom seats so the choice is bad, I've looked at some dummy bookings there are days without even one direct AGP-BHX direct service! I don't use Ryanair. A terrific reduction in choice.
FQTL Steve....
have you seen prices for flights since the demise of Monarch ?
Looked at ALC & AGP for March next year prices have gone thru the roof, such a shame to lose Monarch as they offered good service/flights. Now they, Vueling, Norwegian etc have cut back it seems to be due to supply & demand RYR LS etc have now been able to charge more
have you seen prices for flights since the demise of Monarch ?
Looked at ALC & AGP for March next year prices have gone thru the roof, such a shame to lose Monarch as they offered good service/flights. Now they, Vueling, Norwegian etc have cut back it seems to be due to supply & demand RYR LS etc have now been able to charge more
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Yes I am totally aware of that as well as TS previously dropping EDI which was picked up by AC Rouge but the point is that TS won't receive the first of those 12 leased A321LR's from AerCap until Spring 2019.
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I agree with you re: Monarch, great service and really good flight times. I have a second home in North Wales and need time to get to the airport, so Monarch provided excellent flight times without having to stay over at the airport. I have looked at options, I think Vueling are still doing BCN this winter, and there is an option with Iberia vis MAD to AGP but I'll need to stay over the night before. I am really staggered at the reduction in seats it must mean leakage to other airports. Monarch a great loss to BHX, and the end probably of the long run of impressive growth. BHX-AGP needs 2x daily even in the winter.
I agree with you re: Monarch, great service and really good flight times. I have a second home in North Wales and need time to get to the airport, so Monarch provided excellent flight times without having to stay over at the airport. I have looked at options, I think Vueling are still doing BCN this winter, and there is an option with Iberia vis MAD to AGP but I'll need to stay over the night before. I am really staggered at the reduction in seats it must mean leakage to other airports. Monarch a great loss to BHX, and the end probably of the long run of impressive growth. BHX-AGP needs 2x daily even in the winter.
I am really staggered at the reduction in seats it must mean leakage to other airports. Monarch a great loss to BHX, and the end probably of the long run of impressive growth. BHX-AGP needs 2x daily even in the winter.
Sometimes enthusiasts are too quick to look for new services / increased capacity / higher passenger figures without considering the business consequences.
That said in the case of BHX/AGP it has been a bit of a case of famine to feast to famine. A happy medium (and you don't find many happy mediums!) would be preferable.
