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Old 24th Mar 2019, 12:28
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jon01, I'm not so sure it has anything to do with the airport change but more to do with shortage of aircraft equipment.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 15:23
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Surprise surprise Air India have extended the closure of the routes. I'd be surprised to see them back anytime soon.

Delhi – Amritsar – Birmingham Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30JUN19
Delhi – Birmingham Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30APR19
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 23:47
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AI - if at all. From daily 787 and 4 x weekly Turkmen connections to.no scheduled India flights. Pax will have to get used to the M40.....

Just 3 scheduled long haul routes and destinations left at BHX S19 - Dubai, Doha and Islamabad.

Where next for long haul at BHX? Answers on back of a postage stamp please!
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 08:26
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AI - if at all. From daily 787 and 4 x weekly Turkmen connections to.no scheduled India flights. Pax will have to get used to the M40.....

Just 3 scheduled long haul routes and destinations left at BHX S19 - Dubai, Doha and Islamabad.

Where next for long haul at BHX? Answers on back of a postage stamp please!
The way I read the AI situation is that they have suspended DEL-BHX until the end of April, and ATQ until the end of June. That shows a very clear intention to return to BHX. It would have been much easier to have suspended the routes, then quietly dropped them, which they clearly haven't done.

Turkmenistan have been banned by the EU on safety grounds. Surely when they have sorted out those issues they will be back, they have been a fixture at BHX for donkey's years and especially were AI to really kill off ATQ from BHX would come back stronger.

Turkish have been a victim of the 737MAX debacle, and again there is no sign of them drastically cutting back, they had planned to return to twice daily.

What I am saying that it's easy to be depressed by recent events, but AI is geopolitical situation, Turkmenistan a technical issue, and Turkish again a safety thing. All, I feel sure will be back. When all is said and done, BHX has a deal more long haul than most UK airports, and definetely airports that are so close to LHR and MAN.

If our "leaders" continue to play canute and / or fiddle while Rome is burning, BHX and many other UK airports could have much more to worry about that temporary suspensions of long haul routes.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 23:42
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The way I read the AI situation is that they have suspended DEL-BHX until the end of April, and ATQ until the end of June. That shows a very clear intention to return to BHX. It would have been much easier to have suspended the routes, then quietly dropped them, which they clearly haven't done.

Turkmenistan have been banned by the EU on safety grounds. Surely when they have sorted out those issues they will be back, they have been a fixture at BHX for donkey's years and especially were AI to really kill off ATQ from BHX would come back stronger.

Turkish have been a victim of the 737MAX debacle, and again there is no sign of them drastically cutting back, they had planned to return to twice daily.

What I am saying that it's easy to be depressed by recent events, but AI is geopolitical situation, Turkmenistan a technical issue, and Turkish again a safety thing. All, I feel sure will be back. When all is said and done, BHX has a deal more long haul than most UK airports, and definetely airports that are so close to LHR and MAN.

If our "leaders" continue to play canute and / or fiddle while Rome is burning, BHX and many other UK airports could have much more to worry about that temporary suspensions of long haul routes.
Pakistani airspace reopened and Air India Delhi bookable from Sunday 3 days a week.

Not so confident re Amritsar as that stays canned until 30 June but maybe AI are not so confident about the airspace that far north.

Jet and AI Delhi Heathrow today still avoided Pakistani airspace but I suppose it will take a few days to get back to normal but plenty of other airlines are well and truly using it.

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Old 28th Mar 2019, 06:39
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S19 ACL Slot Allocations

The ACL Summer season report is now out

It shows an increase in seats of 717,041, but this will depend on Turkmenistan restarting and Amritsar returning. This figure also includes slots held by Spicejet and Indigo to Amritsar, which will not start until later in the year, if at all

Jota have no slots, so it looks like the recent private Bratislava flight series will be short lived

Pakistan showing an increase, this might be slots for the rumoured Sialkot service

Lots of increases and decreases, overall nothing too exciting. I think we have to wait until 2020 for everything to settle down, normality to resume and hopefully no more cutbacks

The full report is here: BHX Summer 19 Season report

Good news to see Delhi resuming this Sunday

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Old 29th Mar 2019, 13:21
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Originally Posted by OltonPete View Post
Jet and AI Delhi Heathrow today still avoided Pakistani airspace but I suppose it will take a few days to get back to normal but plenty of other airlines are well and truly using it.

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I flew on KL from Bangkok yesterday and that flight diverted to avoid Pakistani airspace.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 09:34
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Qatar 33 A359 today

Today’s Qatar is A359 ....pretty sure a first visit of this type & only time not a Dreamliner?
Noticed stand 54 yesterday had stop bar for 359 written on it
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 18:31
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Jet 2 Preveza

Now bookable weekly from S20
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 05:56
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Now bookable weekly from S20
There appears to be a trend here

Already Jet2 have replaced Flybe on the Sunday ski flight to Lleida next winter, the Jet2 Preveza parallels the Flybe Sunday flight for s20 (which is still showing at the moment) and Jet2 are starting Kefalonia in s20, which could also be used instead of the weekly Flybe on this route

So are Flybe pulling out of charters because of all the changes happening with the company and Jet2 taking advantage?
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 12:18
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These will be for Jet2Hols in their own right. The current charters to EFL and PVK on BE are for Ionian Island Holidays as a charterer. Who knows - If Ionian decide there may still be a second BHX-PVK
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 14:09
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These will be for Jet2Hols in their own right. The current charters to EFL and PVK on BE are for Ionian Island Holidays as a charterer. Who knows - If Ionian decide there may still be a second BHX-PVK
The Jet2 flights to Lleida are for Neilson Ski, who have chartered the Jet2 aircraft

Ionian and Sunvil could still take seats on the new Jet2 services to Greece, we shall see
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 18:00
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A new series of charter flights went on sale today to Dubrovnik. Unusually they run weekly on Sundays from 9th Feb 2020 until 3rd May 2020 for cultural holidays in Croatia and Montenegro. Flights are expected to be operated by Croatia Airlines routing via Manchester
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 17:03
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February route Analysis

Credits: CAA for the monthly provisional passenger figures. Number of rotations: my own records and FR24 paid subscription and load factors - various seat map websites.

Note only four routes lost over Feb 2018 but not sure if that is good or bad as the overall list of destinations is average. Obviously these are just estimates base don the above and is only an indication of how the routes are doing.


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Old 12th Apr 2019, 21:58
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Interesting that of all the 5.000+ pax/month routes DUS (together with OTP) appears to have had the biggest growth with more than 30 per cent more pax - and that it is BHX 5th biggest route after DUB, AMS, DXB and CDG.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 11:22
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Interesting that of all the 5.000+ pax/month routes DUS (together with OTP) appears to have had the biggest growth with more than 30 per cent more pax - and that it is BHX 5th biggest route after DUB, AMS, DXB and CDG.
And that despite Vienna loads being absolutely dire, Laudamotion are joining the fray. Can't see Agadir lasting unless something fundamental changes either.
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Old 14th Apr 2019, 06:29
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Munster v Saracens semi-final 15:15, Ricoh Arena, Coventry - Saturday, April 20th

Ryanair have added 18 extra flights and Aer Lingus 2 to cope with demand for this Rugby Champion's Cup semi, there are also some private charters and GA flights

Aer Lingus:
20 April Cork - Birmingham 11:00
20 April Birmingham - Cork 21:15

Ryanair:

19 April Cork - Birmingham 08.10 & 11.30
19 April Shannon - Birmingham 15.15 & 18.35
19 April Dublin - Birmingham 20.10 & 20.30
20 April Cork - Birmingham 06.40
20 April Dublin - Birmingham 06.55 & 09.00
20 April Shannon - Birmingham 10.00
20 April Birmingham - Cork 20.00
20 April Birmingham - Shannon 23.20
21 April Birmingham - Cork 07.00 & 10.20
21 April Birmingham - Shannon 14.05 & 17.20
21 April Birmingham - Dublin 19.45 & 20.40

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Old 14th Apr 2019, 21:24
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[Wizz doing great on their new Cluj route, far better than Blue Air ever did. What a pity they're so dominant and big at Luton, I think a Wizz Base at BHX would go great guns. Still, with Luton becoming so busy and slot constrained at peak times,,perhaps we will continue to see new routes from Wizz in addition to krakow
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 06:31
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I think a Wizz Base at BHX would go great guns.
Don't forget BHX is one of the most expensive airports to operate from so it would be difficult for a smaller loco to base themselves there. That and the ridiculous £3 for 5 minutes to drop off is not an incentive to fly from BHX these days.
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 14:37
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I got just as annoyed about those drop off charges when they were only a pound. I got my taxi to drop me off at the International station and I took the free Air-Rail link. I also discovered that taxis from the station were cheaper than from the airport (where they have to pay a surcharge!
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