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Old 10th Jul 2018, 18:20
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Originally Posted by RealFish
Apologies if it's already been posted upstream, but BA Summer 2019 flights are now appearing online and are bookable. Destinations, timings and equipment (EMB 190SR) appear to be the same as this year, ie Florence, Palma and Malaga and the fares seem remarkably reasonable. Services start on 18th May.
Cheers RealFish- not previously reported on this thread

Turkish - back to double daily next summer (April) up 2 from this summer. The morning is shown as the MAX.

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When do you think Gibralter will be re-instated been a while since Monarch went now?
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GIB/Eurowings/Vueling

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When do you think Gibralter will be re-instated been a while since Monarch went now?
GIB - could be a while unless the MAX will be able to use GIB and possibly when/if Jet2 base them.

Eurowings - From LAX_LHR on the MAN thread I checked BHX and indeed they have matched the MAN schedule with an extra Dash 8 at 12.00 - 12.35 Monday Friday making it 4 a day. A319's showing on the other flights

Vueling - Thursday BCN appears in GDS for next summer making it daily. A321 on the Tuesday service now for a few weeks

Swiss Sunday morning flight restored for the ski season and the evening season all week showing as a BCS3 which is 40 odd extra seats per flight if it happens.

All very small gains but positives and in terms of DUS not exactly needed and smacks more of filling aircraft slots in winter ala FR & EI Dublin style.

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As a regular user of EWG on the DUS run, I agree that the fourth daily rotation comes as quite a surprise. With the odd and very few exceptions I've yet to travel on flights roughly exceeding 60% loads (excludes the morning flights which I have never used).
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Pete Each and every new service counts just as I certainly count the new Sun Air flight to Oslo ex MAN even if it is only 30 seats or whatever
as you just don`t know where it could lead to. 21/22 thousand pax month to DUS is not to be sneezed at so the business is there

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A quick calculation comes to almost 100% load factor on all flights Ian. Where do your figures come from? They certainly don't match what I have witnessed in the past 12 months with, as I said, the very odd exception. Perhaps I'm lucky with the flights I travel on. Last example was a Thursday evening BHX-DUS A319 with 86 pax at the end of last month. Earlier, on a Tuesday outbound we had about 100 on the evening DUS-BHX and they had cancelled the afternoon flight!
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CAA website, don`t forget return flights as well
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
It's the "football fan" mentality, which frankly exists on just about every "airport" thread in this section of PPRuNe (I don't use the other sites) - including BHX and MAN. Some posters often treat their favourite airport as they might view their football club, and the management in the same way as they would view a football manager. You even hear cries of "foul" if one airport dares to promote itself on what someone else considers to be their "home club's" territory. The word "we" is used a lot, suggesting some sort of ownership or attachment, when in reality they have little or no direct professional association with the airport. The word "we" is used in the same way in a sports context by fans, who again, unless they are members of the club, have no direct association with it.

It might be good if some of those kinds of posts were moderated a bit more zealously, given that this is supposed to be a "professional" (in the broadest sense of the word) site, but I rather imagine they all have far too much to do in their day jobs to waste their time on such action.

It matters not who breaks the news, good or bad, they are merely passing on information that they have not previously seen mentioned on a thread.
Well said. It’s actually quite sad to see the mentality of some posters on here...
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CAA website, don`t forget return flights as well
Yes, I took that into consideration. Having just checked the CAA website, the figures you quote are for ALL carriers on the route. Don't forget Flybe operate 4 a day on weekdays too. Therefore, at present, there are at least 7 rotations a day on weekdays (less at weekends). I haven't time to do all the figures accurately because EWG have a tendency to swap and change gauge quite regularly (A320/A319/DHC-8) and Flybe is also a mix with E175/DHC-8. But I'd say the loads are, on average, roughly what I said.
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
When do you think Gibralter will be re-instated been a while since Monarch went now?
When,if ever, it features in the Jet2 Holidays brochure.
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I see that the FA and / or BHX have told England supporters that they should not come to BHX to welcome the team back from Moscow.

I assume that is because they don't want hordes of hopeful wellwishers descending on the PAX terminal. Will the MSCP on the Elmdon side be off limits for the afternoon I wonder, as I imagine that they will arrive there.
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I see that the FA and / or BHX have told England supporters that they should not come to BHX to welcome the team back from Moscow.
Brilliant! A sure way to ensure that even more people will come now!
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This has been a PR disaster. BHX should have made it clear they were issuing a plea on behalf of the FA and deflected as much criticsm as possible.

Instead they basically issued a fairly blunt and terse statement that gave the impression they were making the decision.

Maybe they were, but some spin should have been in order !
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Primera/VLM/Jet2

Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
A big delay on Primera PF 2933 to AGP scheduled 0700 delayed to 2300. Anyone know if this is a technical problem or crew issue?
Not sure how much longer they will be a worry at BHX: - Credit F4A

Palma ends 2 September instead of 30 September

Barcelona - all greyed out which will then just leave Malaga until Alicante, LPA, TFS and KEF start in December (what are the odds)

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Antwerp not bookable after 10 August.

Well that was a brief purple patch - normal service has been resumed

Better news - A few extra Jet2 added in winter such as two Salzburg's during Feb half-term on a Saturday and Thomas Cook have two night Dalaman's until mid November and three Antalya's.

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Originally Posted by Navpi
This has been a PR disaster. BHX should have made it clear they were issuing a plea on behalf of the FA and deflected as much criticsm as possible.

Instead they basically issued a fairly blunt and terse statement that gave the impression they were making the decision.

Maybe they were, but some spin should have been in order !
haven't seen any negative feed back

and why would they want thousands turning up who, at best, would pay to park and disrupt their main business???
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Antwerp not bookable after 10 August.
No surprise, for all the reasons given before they even started. There wasn't even a remote chance with the frequency and timings.
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So the only new airlines to launch at BHX in summer 18 either pull out or are seemingly pulling out before summer has even ended....you couldn't make it up!

Might start taking bets on how long Air Arabia Maroc will last...3 weeks? 3 months? 😐
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I can't understand why Sharm is still off limits to UK operators. Maybe Air Arabia should dip their to in that particluar bath. The resort has been deemed safe enough.
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Sharm is still off limits due to poor airport security. The resort itself is fine, but the airport isn’t still deemed norm to be fine.
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Jet2 to Reykjavik (KEF)

Flights bookable in March 2019, route is only bookable as a return flight and must originate in the UK:

7th Out / returns to MAN
11th Out / Return
14th Out empty / Return

These are Northern Lights City Breaks only, but maybe something more regular in the future?

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