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LH returning with MAN-FRA 6 per week😊
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...nd-manchester/
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...nd-manchester/
Great to hear, just want Munich to be restarted, and I will be very happy . Getting a bit fed up of the multiple stops to and from especially as much of the infrastructure within the various routes I have used have been closed so long waits in empty terminals.
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Mr Mac
This is not a practice I have heard of before. Especially if the aircraft are being permanently withdrawn from service.
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It's completely normal? Depending on finance on engines or the airframes, they will need to be refitted back with their stated engines under whatever terms with the leasing company. It's an entirely normal practice to move engines around the fleet to balace usage and then to fit back their original engines with the frame to return to lessors. As I understand all of the VS fleet is financed in one way shape or form?
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I would guess put the newest engines on the newest airframes VV the old ones, some would be more saleable than others as a result I imagine.
Spanners, JSCL.
I know about the swapping engines at start of life to spread the overhaul across the fleet.
Engines get changed ad hoc due to failures or pending faults but what I'm talking about is the returning of the original engines back to the original airframe. An airframe that is being scrapped for example. Seems strange as the engines will be amongst the first items to be removed.
I know about the swapping engines at start of life to spread the overhaul across the fleet.
Engines get changed ad hoc due to failures or pending faults but what I'm talking about is the returning of the original engines back to the original airframe. An airframe that is being scrapped for example. Seems strange as the engines will be amongst the first items to be removed.
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Spanners, JSCL.
I know about the swapping engines at start of life to spread the overhaul across the fleet.
Engines get changed ad hoc due to failures or pending faults but what I'm talking about is the returning of the original engines back to the original airframe. An airframe that is being scrapped for example. Seems strange as the engines will be amongst the first items to be removed.
I know about the swapping engines at start of life to spread the overhaul across the fleet.
Engines get changed ad hoc due to failures or pending faults but what I'm talking about is the returning of the original engines back to the original airframe. An airframe that is being scrapped for example. Seems strange as the engines will be amongst the first items to be removed.
If they've done various swaps which means they have different engines on the aircraft relating to a different financier, theyll revert them back to ensure they're returning the aircract with its appropriate engines. As its the financier/lessor that is really scrapping them, not VS as to my understanding they don't own them?
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Spanners, JSCL.
I know about the swapping engines at start of life to spread the overhaul across the fleet.
Engines get changed ad hoc due to failures or pending faults but what I'm talking about is the returning of the original engines back to the original airframe. An airframe that is being scrapped for example. Seems strange as the engines will be amongst the first items to be removed.
I know about the swapping engines at start of life to spread the overhaul across the fleet.
Engines get changed ad hoc due to failures or pending faults but what I'm talking about is the returning of the original engines back to the original airframe. An airframe that is being scrapped for example. Seems strange as the engines will be amongst the first items to be removed.
Imagine if you were the owner of the newest 747 and it had 2 or 3 of the oldest engines. You wouldn't be happy.
These are the parts that will have the biggest value if the aircraft are going to be parted out.
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Easy from 15 June
§ Belfast-Birmingham
§ Belfast-Bristol
§ Belfast-Edinburgh
§ Belfast-Glasgow
§ Belfast-London Gatwick
§ Belfast-Liverpool
§ Belfast-Newcastle
§ Birmingham-Belfast
§ Bristol-Belfast
§ Edinburgh-Belfast
§ Edinburgh-London Gatwick
§ Glasgow-Belfast
§ Glasgow-London Gatwick
§ Inverness-London Gatwick
§ Isle of Man-London Gatwick
§ Isle of Man-Liverpool
§ London Gatwick-Belfast
§ London Gatwick-Edinburgh
§ London Gatwick-Glasgow
§ London Gatwick-Inverness
§ London Gatwick-Isle of Man
§ London Gatwick-Nice
§ Liverpool-Belfast
§ Liverpool-Isle of Man
§ Newcastle-Belfast
France
§ Bordeaux-Lyon
§ Bordeaux-Nice
§ Paris Charles de Gaulle-Nice
§ Paris Charles de Gaulle-Toulouse
§ Lille-Nice
§ Lyon-Bordeaux
§ Lyon-Nantes
§ Nice-Bordeaux
§ Nice-Paris Charles de Gaulle
§ Nice-London Gatwick
§ Nice-Lille
§ Nice-Nantes
§ Nice-Toulouse
§ Nice-Geneva
§ Nantes-Lyon
§ Nantes-Nice
§ Toulouse-Paris Charles de Gaulle
§ Toulouse-Nice
Switzerland
§ Geneva-Porto
§ Geneva-Barcelona
§ Geneva-Lisbon
§ Geneva-Nice
Spain
§ Barcelona-Geneva
Portugal
§ Porto-Geneva
§ Lisbon-Geneva
as has been said the engines 'belong' to the aircraft so need returning. Same at any end of lease handback for engines, Apu and gear unless negotiated otherwise. Usually have to be in a preagreed condition aswell, whether that be by recently visiting the engine shop and/or confirmed by a video borescope. Otherwise they'll be big financial penalties.
Imagine if you were the owner of the newest 747 and it had 2 or 3 of the oldest engines. You wouldn't be happy.
These are the parts that will have the biggest value if the aircraft are going to be parted out.
Imagine if you were the owner of the newest 747 and it had 2 or 3 of the oldest engines. You wouldn't be happy.
These are the parts that will have the biggest value if the aircraft are going to be parted out.
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EMA has a lot of direct cargo flights from USA and mainland Europe, mainly through integrators and the likes of AeroLogic ( which I think is owned by DHL and Lufthansa ) , I was involved in some air cargo movements last week which arrived direct from CVG into EMA per Boeing 767, operated on behalf of DHL, but can't remember the actual carrier now.....and they were 20 tonnes paletised shipments, not parcels
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Yes, as someone seemed to delight in posting a long list of easyjet services operating from mid-June but not MAN (on the pretext of replying to a quote that MAN wasn't listed), as this is the MAN thread, I'm glad you pointed out that flights are loaded from 1 July. Prices are shown for quite a wide range of destinations, including multi-daily flights to the likes of AMS, BFS & CDG.
I wonder how many seats are available on a/c.
I wonder how many seats are available on a/c.
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Yes, as someone seemed to delight in posting a long list of easyjet services operating from mid-June but not MAN (on the pretext of replying to a quote that MAN wasn't listed), as this is the MAN thread, I'm glad you pointed out that flights are loaded from 1 July. Prices are shown for quite a wide range of destinations, including multi-daily flights to the likes of AMS, BFS & CDG.
I wonder how many seats are available on a/c.
I wonder how many seats are available on a/c.
Flights for July are loaded atm but I would imagine a lot of them will be taken off sale in a few weeks time. This was the case in April, May & June.
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MKY661, you may well be right of course, particularly if this (unwarranted in the view of many) quarantine policy is extended beyond June, or so little notice is given of its cessation that folk won't have booked flights.
I doubt there will be any rush of bookings for any route, until the quarantine issue is resolved and secondly, the FCO advice on overseas travel - which impacts "most" peoples travel insurance. Given the way refund matters have been dealt with by many airlines, this pay now & don't worry you can change/refund if cancelled- isn't going to cut the mustard with many. The majority will simply wait until both the above issues are resolved. The rare exception might be with Jet2 who have performed very well with customer refunds, thereby inspiring confidence in change/refunds if flights are cancelled. (All Jet2 flights cancelled until July 1st)