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Old 5th Jan 2020, 15:33
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Wouldn`t call a 30M airport a medium regional airport
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 15:39
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Originally Posted by HKGBOY
Is single runway OPS normal for Sunday afternoons? Colleague on MAN-DUS from T2 - 35 minutes from pushback T2 to take off- awful lot of fuel & time wasted queuing at what is a medium regional airport but with unused assets (?)
SUMMARY
1.1 During the winter period, dual-runway operating hours will operate based on seasonal demand.
2.0 PROGRAMME
2.1 Standard dual-runway operating hours will be altered in line with demand for the 2019/20 winter season.
All times quoted in this Operational Advice Notice are local.
3.0 STANDARD RUNWAY OPERATING HOURS (Monday to Friday Inclusive)
3.1 Runway 05L/23R and 05R/23L will be in operation between 06:30hrs - 10:30hrs and 16:00hrs – 20:00hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times unless traffic demands both
runways to be operational.
3.2 SATURDAY STANDARD RUNWAY OPERATING HOURS
3.2.1 Runway 05L/23R and 05R/23L will be in operation between 06:30hrs - 10:30hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times unless traffic demands both
runways to be operational.
3.3 SUNDAY STANDARD RUNWAY OPERATING HOURS
3.3.1 Runway 05L/23R and 05R/23L will be in operation between 16:00hrs – 20:00hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times unless traffic demands both
runways to be operational.
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 18:10
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount

Really? Would be keen to see some examples. Who in their right mind would pay that to fill economy TCX equivalent seats
Well I am writing this from Barbados, booked before TCX went. After TCX went another couple wanted to join us, prices from MAN for prices were £2k each !! I kid you not, but could get LGW for under £800. Consiquently we are here alone. Our VS flight was completely full. I am also investigating next Januarys winter avoidance holiday to MCO, and finding MAN has a far greater price premium than usual. Its been widely reported that VS aint the only ones, Jet2 have also been publically bashed all over the place for similar hikes in prices as seats are at a premium.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 01:54
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Vickers check out my previous posts, VS wanted 7.5K for economy seats to fly at the end of Dec to Bgi, we flew from LGW beach fleet just under 2k premium, VS are royally living it up have now spoken to 23 people from the Cheshire Greater Man area who have flown from LGW this hols and 2 via FRA.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 07:38
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On a positive note high yields in the short term will strengthen the finances of some these Airlines who are often struggling to turn over profit, therefore helping to secure local & national jobs in the future. Business is business at the end of the day. It's simple supply & demand. You can't blame the airline's for cashing in.

Also, oil prices are increasing as per the onset of War. The airlines are going to need all the help they can.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 07:38
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On a positive note high yields in the short term will strengthen the finances of some these Airlines who are often struggling to turn over profit, therefore helping to secure local & national jobs in the future. Business is business at the end of the day. It's simple supply & demand. You can't blame the airline's for cashing in.

Also, oil prices are increasing as per the onset of War. The airlines are going to need all the help they can.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 11:15
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Originally Posted by eggc
Well I am writing this from Barbados, booked before TCX went. After TCX went another couple wanted to join us, prices from MAN for prices were £2k each !! I kid you not, but could get LGW for under £800. Consiquently we are here alone. Our VS flight was completely full. I am also investigating next Januarys winter avoidance holiday to MCO, and finding MAN has a far greater price premium than usual. Its been widely reported that VS aint the only ones, Jet2 have also been publically bashed all over the place for similar hikes in prices as seats are at a premium.
When you leave it late to book and combined with what happened with Thomas Cook meaning there were many people scrambling to find alternatives or have no holiday at all, it's little wonder prices skyrocketed. It could also be argued in some cases that prices have been artificially low.

As for MCO next January, although you can probably book packages already with Virgin Holidays you do realise VS don't open for bookings until about 11 months out?
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 12:22
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BGI on VS is available in business class for less than £2k throughout the summer...
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 13:29
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TUI are picking up the MAN - CCC using the B787, previously served by TCX using the A330

Credit: Routes online.

TUI Airways in summer 2020 season plans to launch new long-haul route from Manchester, which sees 1 weekly Manchester – Cayo Coco service. From 26MAR20, Boeing 787-8 aircraft will operate this route on Thursdays, switching to 787-9 on Sundays.

26MAR20 – 23APR20
TOM174 MAN1000 – 1525CCC 788 4
TOM175 CCC1755 – 0625+1MAN 788 4

03MAY20 – 18OCT20
TOM174 MAN1000 – 1425CCC 789 7
TOM175 CCC1655 – 0625+1MAN 789 7

25OCT20
TOM174 MAN1000 – 1525CCC 789 7
TOM175 CCC1755 – 0625+1MAN 789 7
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 14:12
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BGI on VS is available in business class for less than £2k throughout the summer...
Summer in the Caribbean is considered off-season particularly from July/August onwards.
One of the problems with Virgin, TUI (and Thomas Cook were the same) is that they prioritize their seats for their holiday brands leaving independent travellers to pick up the scraps sometimes at exhorbitant fares.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 14:19
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One question I've been meaning to ask the forum is:
What new flights / destinations will there be in 2020 and what service / frequency upgrades are there (announced and bookable rather than rumours)? I'm aware of some but I'm sure not all, it's difficult to keep track.
It seems remarkably difficult to get a summary anywhere. You would think that MAN would be singing this from the rooftops but their website is just a mess of car parking special offers and duty free promotions whenever I look.
If someone could summarize, I would be very grateful (and may even get to fly on some of them!)
Thanks in advance
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 14:20
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The TUI website suggests these flights will be to VRA (Varadero Airport), not CCC.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 14:26
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Originally Posted by rkenyon
BGI on VS is available in business class for less than £2k throughout the summer...
There is no business class from MAN, unless you mean premium economy ? Summer is also out of season. It’s mainly a winter destination.

i mentioned in a earlier post when trying to add friends, VS wanted an ADDITIONAL £500 per passenger to downgrade me and’th Mrs from Premium Economy to Economy to sit with our friends if they came. VS didn’t hide the reason....severe lack of seats and full flights ! We chose not to accept their offer obviously !!
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 16:58
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Originally Posted by eggc


There is no business class from MAN, unless you mean premium economy ? Summer is also out of season. It’s mainly a winter destination.

i mentioned in a earlier post when trying to add friends, VS wanted an ADDITIONAL £500 per passenger to downgrade me and’th Mrs from Premium Economy to Economy to sit with our friends if they came. VS didn’t hide the reason....severe lack of seats and full flights ! We chose not to accept their offer obviously !!
Virgin sell their Upper class on all flights from MAN
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 17:34
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I stand corrected, thanks PDX...thought the 330's were only 2 class....didnt spot the upper class seats on way out and we were close to the front. Must need glasses
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 17:38
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Originally Posted by eggc
I stand corrected, thanks PDX...thought the 330's were only 2 class....didnt spot the upper class seats on way out and we were close to the front. Must need glasses
The 200s have 19 seats ex Air Berlin I believe.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 17:45
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Yeah, your spot on...19 lie flat...they hid them well from us paupers in Economy / Premium Economy

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Old 6th Jan 2020, 20:19
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Originally Posted by Scottie Dog
SUMMARY
1.1 During the winter period, dual-runway operating hours will operate based on seasonal demand.
2.0 PROGRAMME
2.1 Standard dual-runway operating hours will be altered in line with demand for the 2019/20 winter season.
All times quoted in this Operational Advice Notice are local.
3.0 STANDARD RUNWAY OPERATING HOURS (Monday to Friday Inclusive)
3.1 Runway 05L/23R and 05R/23L will be in operation between 06:30hrs - 10:30hrs and 16:00hrs – 20:00hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times unless traffic demands both
runways to be operational.
3.2 SATURDAY STANDARD RUNWAY OPERATING HOURS
3.2.1 Runway 05L/23R and 05R/23L will be in operation between 06:30hrs - 10:30hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times unless traffic demands both
runways to be operational.
3.3 SUNDAY STANDARD RUNWAY OPERATING HOURS
3.3.1 Runway 05L/23R and 05R/23L will be in operation between 16:00hrs – 20:00hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times unless traffic demands both
runways to be operational.
So there will be delays then. Fuel wasted and time wasted. When traffic demands? How fast is the response when traffic builds up?
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 00:57
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We cant possibly upset the posh folk at the other end of airport ! Always makes me laugh a/c dog leg to avoid a few upper class villages in Cheshire, but sail straight out over densely populated, but much poorer, Stockport.
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 07:33
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Originally Posted by eggc
We cant possibly upset the posh folk at the other end of airport ! Always makes me laugh a/c dog leg to avoid a few upper class villages in Cheshire, but sail straight out over densely populated, but much poorer, Stockport.
I wonder where the airport management are located?
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