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There is nothing to stop a customer changing lanes. This is another MAG silly rule that they believe stops passengers from selecting a different lane if they can observe different and less onerous screening in their new chosen lane. Quite why that should ever be the case is a mystery to me, but that’s what they say. Fallen foul of that one before now too.
Other ministry of silly rules stuff at MAG airports includes their policy on use of mobile phones in their extensive queues, their policy on taking frozen food through staff search and their approach to medicines in passenger hold baggage alongside other liquids. All are unique to MAG.
Other ministry of silly rules stuff at MAG airports includes their policy on use of mobile phones in their extensive queues, their policy on taking frozen food through staff search and their approach to medicines in passenger hold baggage alongside other liquids. All are unique to MAG.
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Having been based at MAN for the last 14 years you describe something that I have never witnessed. Yes, they sometimes have their own interpretation that causes a fuss, but it’s usually short lived and gets ironed out fairly quickly. I have never ever witnessed any of them going “crazy”, nor have I ever witnessed them “barking and shouting”. I find security at MAN very straight forward, I remove my iPad and my liquids from my bag, remove my coat/blazer and my phone and put them through the scanner, I walk through the scanner and collect my belongings on the other side, simple. I have found other airports far more restrictive making me remove my belt and my shoes, neither of which I do at MAN. They aren’t perfect but they do not deserve the picture you paint.
Nor is the ban on the use of mobile phones.
Above comments were made from my own experience of flying through 22 UK airports this year. That clearly doesn't make it a definitive list.
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How are Jet doing out of MAN ?
Reports suggest they defaulted on their bank payments on December 31st, forcing a disclosure statement to the Indian Stock Exchange...
Reports suggest they defaulted on their bank payments on December 31st, forcing a disclosure statement to the Indian Stock Exchange...
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Most outbound are full or close to full and inbound are pretty full. Don't have any figures to hand but will get some examples next week.
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there are one or two of the staff who insist on seperate trays per electronic item in T3. So imagine, work laptop then iPad. Then go my liquids (not allowed in same tray as my bag or electrical) but can go with my belt and phone. Then goes my main cabin bag. Then goes my laptop bag. Then goes my jacket (not allowed under either bag. I have just sent 6 trays through security search. In Glasgow, Edinburgh and Heathrow this would be in 2, max 3. These airports are all fine with multiple electronics if they are flat and has no issue with liquids being in there either as long as they aren’t on top of anything. Also no issue with multiple bags or bags on top of coats. Sure makes the process faster if the number of trays are reduced by 50-66%... repeat that by x many passengers!
Returned to The Island through Schiphol on 28th Dec. Coat, laptop still in case, wallet, keys, travel bag, all in one box and through the scanner without problems. Friendly staff also, so it can be done.
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In my recent experience at T3 trays get rejected and sent to the "naughty side" no matter that they are compliant. For example - boots removed, placed into tray on their own - rejected for hand search. The security operator rolled his eyes, blamed the remote operator of the scanner, and said there was nothing wrong.
Last week, my iPad and a coat in a tray - rejected for hand search because the coat was slightly touching (but not covering) the iPad.
"We do things properly in Manchester" is a refrain I have heard many times - I guess this is drilled into the security operatives at their briefings, but the implication is that other airports don't?
Last week, my iPad and a coat in a tray - rejected for hand search because the coat was slightly touching (but not covering) the iPad.
"We do things properly in Manchester" is a refrain I have heard many times - I guess this is drilled into the security operatives at their briefings, but the implication is that other airports don't?
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I travel monthly through MAN airport, always find the security operators constantly grabbing search trays off passengers whilst placing contents in before they have finished, resulting in passengers using sometimes four or five trays with belongings in. As the poster above has just mentioned, other airports in UK and Europe you can manage to fill several trays and go through search areas without any need for this with numerous trays. All this results in extra queues at MAN airport security amongst other problems, I also notice the constant shouting by security personnel walking around the search area at queues of passengers explaining the liquid regulations, this is unprofessional and not done at other airports.
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I travel monthly through MAN airport, always find the security operators constantly grabbing search trays off passengers whilst placing contents in before they have finished, resulting in passengers using sometimes four or five trays with belongings in. As the poster above has just mentioned, other airports in UK and Europe you can manage to fill several trays and go through search areas without any need for this with numerous trays. All this results in extra queues at MAN airport security amongst other problems, I also notice the constant shouting by security personnel walking around the search area at queues of passengers explaining the liquid regulations, this is unprofessional and not done at other airports.
The whole pantomime was completely unnecessary and avoidable.
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Some example figures for the Jet Airways Mumbai service as promised.
When this new service was originally announced it was 4x weekly, advanced bookings were so strong that it was upgraded to 5x weekly before the first flight. According to reports from Jet, advanced bookings on many flights are around 90% iirc. I believe their A332's have 251 seating so some very good LF's.
20/12 191 217
21/12 151 247
22/12 183 220
23/12 161 255
24/12 192 256
31/12 223 240
3/1/19 215 251
4/1/19 246 238
Just for interest, here are a few for the new Ethiopian too. This service operates 4x weekly, initially via Brussels.
30/1 88 152
1/1/19 112 86
2/1/19 83 125
4/1/19 135 128
When this new service was originally announced it was 4x weekly, advanced bookings were so strong that it was upgraded to 5x weekly before the first flight. According to reports from Jet, advanced bookings on many flights are around 90% iirc. I believe their A332's have 251 seating so some very good LF's.
20/12 191 217
21/12 151 247
22/12 183 220
23/12 161 255
24/12 192 256
31/12 223 240
3/1/19 215 251
4/1/19 246 238
Just for interest, here are a few for the new Ethiopian too. This service operates 4x weekly, initially via Brussels.
30/1 88 152
1/1/19 112 86
2/1/19 83 125
4/1/19 135 128
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Light years ahead of the UK?
To be honest, I am sick and tired of being told by security staff and customer services that Manchester security delays are caused solely by passengers.
Clearly Manchester has an issue with staffing and training.
Often very inadequate staffing for a demand that is known in advance.
Far too many body searches and an extremely high bag rejection rate- way beyond that of almost any other airport in the world. In many-maybe the majority of cases, there is no valid reason for bag rejection. Either the staff training is crap or the equipment they are using is crap.
If you've got 45 minute delays in late December - then I'd give MAN a swerve for summer.
Clearly Manchester has an issue with staffing and training.
Often very inadequate staffing for a demand that is known in advance.
Far too many body searches and an extremely high bag rejection rate- way beyond that of almost any other airport in the world. In many-maybe the majority of cases, there is no valid reason for bag rejection. Either the staff training is crap or the equipment they are using is crap.
If you've got 45 minute delays in late December - then I'd give MAN a swerve for summer.
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I know I said I wouldn’t post but:
Aside from copious amounts of either B/S And/or over exaggerated examples (Ive seen figures and have personal evidence that at least ones ‘experience’ on here is complete B/S), but, all of you are moaning on the wrong place.
Complain to MAG, not anonymous moans on here. It ain’t going to change unless you direct your complaints to the right people. In particular, I know that Mr A Tis has been given the opportunity to direct complaints to the head of security, yet declined because they were ‘too busy’. Not too busy to post inane drivel on here though, eh?
either put up or shut up. Direct your complaints to the right people and spare all the other readers this boring nonsense. If it’s as bad as you lot say it is, work to sort it. Like I say, to busy to formally complain but not too busy to post to people on here who frankly don’t give a sh*t how long it took you to get through security.....
Aside from copious amounts of either B/S And/or over exaggerated examples (Ive seen figures and have personal evidence that at least ones ‘experience’ on here is complete B/S), but, all of you are moaning on the wrong place.
Complain to MAG, not anonymous moans on here. It ain’t going to change unless you direct your complaints to the right people. In particular, I know that Mr A Tis has been given the opportunity to direct complaints to the head of security, yet declined because they were ‘too busy’. Not too busy to post inane drivel on here though, eh?
either put up or shut up. Direct your complaints to the right people and spare all the other readers this boring nonsense. If it’s as bad as you lot say it is, work to sort it. Like I say, to busy to formally complain but not too busy to post to people on here who frankly don’t give a sh*t how long it took you to get through security.....
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Southside. Many thanks, but, It’s precisely the recent pages of moans on here by the usual suspects as to why I don’t post on here anymore. There has been plenty of news, but, when readership is way down thanks to the moaners, why bother?
had to post in this instance though, as bit my tongue long enough but knowing that at least one person is telling complete porkies and then another too busy to formally complain but not too busy to post on here, I took the bait. Like I say, no one cares how long it took an anonymous and frankly unverified person to clear security, so either put up or shut up. very simple.
had to post in this instance though, as bit my tongue long enough but knowing that at least one person is telling complete porkies and then another too busy to formally complain but not too busy to post on here, I took the bait. Like I say, no one cares how long it took an anonymous and frankly unverified person to clear security, so either put up or shut up. very simple.
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Totally sympathize & agree,the thread has been captured by the agenda posters in recent times as it has been before from time to time here.
There undoubtedly will be a silent majority who are zoning out again now because of it but would readily welcome NEWS as provided on this thread in the inimitable way as previously.
There undoubtedly will be a silent majority who are zoning out again now because of it but would readily welcome NEWS as provided on this thread in the inimitable way as previously.