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Old 15th Mar 2018, 18:57
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Vueling have increased BCN-MAN to 8 weekly for August and 1st week of Sept:

VY8748 BCN 1210 MAN 1345
VY8749 MAN 1425 BCN 1745
Daily

VY8758 BCN 1820 MAN 1955
VY8759 MAN 2040 BCN 2359
Monday’s

Confirmed and bookable.
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 11:27
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Originally Posted by Dobbo_Dobbo View Post
Hmmm...

You would assume MAN would be at the forefront of any non-London UK service.

I thought Gatwick was in the frame ?
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 11:37
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Gatwick is in the frame but the CEO has also stated he is looking away from London too. It could be that Gatwick is getting a transit flight (suggested by someone) and MAN a stand alone flight, likely to be 2-3 weekly initially I’d imagine.
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 13:29
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Bad press re queues to get through T1 security

Frustrated passengers say they have been queuing for 90 minutes in the departures hall at Manchester Airport .

There are currently long delays affecting check-in desks and security in the Terminal One section of the airport.

A spokeswoman for Manchester Airport said it is unclear why there are long queues today, but explained T1 is busy with passengers this morning.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...elays-14418601
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 16:36
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Bad press re queues to get through T1 security




https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...elays-14418601
Are they still redoing the main security checkpoint and routing almost everyone through the ground level one? If so that creates significant log jams.
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 17:17
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Reportedly a couple of incidents with buses in the staff car park delaying security staff reporting in, plus a faulty scanner out of service.
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Old 17th Mar 2018, 09:25
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Originally Posted by pholling View Post
Are they still redoing the main security checkpoint and routing almost everyone through the ground level one? If so that creates significant log jams.
More to do with the fact that they've put the T1 staff in a car park that's basically in Styal, on a route that has again been subject to massive delays of late, and now apparently a lack of resilience in the bus operation when something goes wrong.
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Old 17th Mar 2018, 10:54
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All of this fairly predictable to the average citizen never mind people who are paid well to manage risk and to avoid such eventualities.

On another matter.....to those out there who still think business class demand is weak in the regions....I'm off on a trip on Monday. I got the last seat in business on the outbound. For the return, I've been wait-listed in business for the last two weeks and face a long haul trip in economy if something doesn't free up.
So this particular airline is faced with a client wanting to give it more money for comfort but not being able to....hmmm
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Old 17th Mar 2018, 11:53
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FF is right, the terminal should not grind to a halt for the want of a contingency in the staff buses.
If there was a decent bus network in the local area, many would forgo the staff car park hassle- sadly the public bus network continues to contract and for many, it is worse than it was 40 years ago.
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Old 17th Mar 2018, 20:38
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Originally Posted by pholling View Post
Are they still redoing the main security checkpoint and routing almost everyone through the ground level one? If so that creates significant log jams.
Bizarre treatment a week ago at T1 security. I dropped my wife off at departures so she could do the luggage drop for easyJet, whilst I took the car to the Meet & Greet reception.

I dropped the car off, went into the terminal at ground level arrivals, went up to departures, walked through the regular security lanes and went into the departure lounge. Whilst in security, in a text conversation with my wife, we both understood the other to be in security but could not see each other. It was only an hour later that I realised she had been refused entry to the regular security, but had to go through the ground level lanes, despite being next to the entrance to main security at the EZY bag drop.

Still don't know why she was refused and I was permitted?
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Old 18th Mar 2018, 14:32
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Originally Posted by Espada III View Post
Still don't know why she was refused and I was permitted?
They open and close the upper security depending on how many people are queueing. I went through last Monday just as they re-opened the regular security (about 11:30am). I was in FastTrack, and the queues were quite long for the standard security.
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Old 18th Mar 2018, 17:56
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Mrs S on shuttle today two hours waiting to go to LHR missed connection to AUS spending night in hotel then flying via JFK. She,s not happy.....
Cheer,s Sam
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 11:36
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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rking-14433966

Wonderful!!
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 11:49
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It’s annoying that people now have to pay, but I also agree that something needs to be done about the traffic around the site. Came off a flight at 11pm the other day, and the roads around the airport were gridlocked. (Granted I know that is to do with all the roadworks but still).

Also, it doesn’t help that people sit in the drop off lanes waiting to pick up, and then as Tricia says, just circling the site when moved on only to come back again (mostly taxi drivers doing this but I’m not going to go into the poor driving standards of cab drivers lately).

Once again it seems the minority have ruined it for the majority.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 11:57
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Its just very poor planning by MAG. All the roadworks at once have changed so many routes that SatNavs can't keep up. The number of people that are driving around totally lost is staggering. The road signs are dreadful and confusing. I get stopped by stressed and lost drivers nearly every day as I walk into work.

This is just money grabbing to hide the problem.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 12:27
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There probably is an element of money grabbing but traffic management is needed, as said, the people hogging the free pick up lanes and circling the site to avoid the fees are not lost.

I actually quite like the idea of the remote and free pick up/drop off. If it helps remove some traffic from the CTA then go for it.

As for the money grabbing, with 1bn (scrap that, I mean 750m) being spent on the terminal, the effort to claw back money was going to begin somewhere.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 17:01
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I can see the remote drop-off area turning to chaos within days - I will bet real money that queues will build up as, inevitably, MAG will manage to provide too few busses and passengers will resort to getting as close as possible and then walking.....
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 17:23
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What is needed are more multi-storey car-parks. These should have been built years ago.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:40
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Bad form.
Just one further reason for me to try to avoid business trips by air as much as possible. Skype and WhatsApp can take care of a surprising amount of things these days The entire flying experience is just torture now.
Avoid the whole horrible place where ever possible.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 19:34
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Originally Posted by ZOOKER View Post
What is needed are more multi-storey car-parks. These should have been built years ago.
I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment, albeit I think the desired outcome (clearing the terminal forecourts of as much traffic as realistically possible) will require a much wider solution than building more car parks

In particular, the airport requires a much faster and more reliable method of getting people from remote car parks to the terminal buildings. Bussed solutions do not cut it at it stands now, and certainly won't if the airport has genuine aspirations of growing beyond 30-35 million annual passengers.

Obviously better (faster, cleaner, more reliable and comfortable) public transport so as to encourage a greater percentage of airport journeys helps, but people use the car far more outside of London so I'm not sure this is a realistic aspiration without massive investment and generational changes in behaviour.

In the short term, the apparent value engineering of the TP appears to continue apace. When all is said and done, it will be interesting to trace this process back through the various design iterations - but that's a subject for another day!
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