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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 18:09
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Hole in 23R.

Few diversions to LPL and EK19 gone to BHX.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 18:22
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Thanks for the info, hope the hot pour team are on shift!
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 18:51
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Nice to see two A388's on the deck at BHX
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 18:51
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Hot pour team are always on shift, more holes than a collinder sometimes.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 19:06
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I think most of us are supportive of Ringway, eggc, that's why we're here.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 22:04
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Few diversions to LPL and EK19 gone to BHX.
Would love to know what the fuel upload for EK19 is compared to LHR's EK3.

Sneeze at MAN and diverting is the norm. Long hold round Lambourne doesn't seem to phase anyone.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 22:28
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I think the problem among people is is they feel MAN are not doing enough to address basic problems just letting them get worse and worse.

Yes the border control is not really an issue they can control but they can put pressure on those who can if queue's are excessive.

The airport control the capacity level per hour, a review of that with airlines might be a positive move and see what changes if any might benefit passengers, airlines and the airport in general etc.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 07:49
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Originally Posted by Betablockeruk View Post
Would love to know what the fuel upload for EK19 is compared to LHR's EK3.

Sneeze at MAN and diverting is the norm. Long hold round Lambourne doesn't seem to phase anyone.
Good point. Out of interest, does anyone know how many flights landed on 23L while 23R was closed and how many diverted? Incidents like last evening's highlight the significant benefits of R2 but also its limitations.

As for LHR, it's sometimes a couple of holds out in the North Sea, a few more over the coast before they even get to Lambourne!
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 09:15
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Originally Posted by j636 View Post
I think the problem among people is is they feel MAN are not doing enough to address basic problems just letting them get worse and worse.

Yes the border control is not really an issue they can control but they can put pressure on those who can if queue's are excessive.

The airport control the capacity level per hour, a review of that with airlines might be a positive move and see what changes if any might benefit passengers, airlines and the airport in general etc.
With the current T2 works, it's going to get worse before it gets better. People will just have to live with remote gates for a couple of years.

As mentioned upthread, you hear about the times when the queues are very bad, but this is pretty rare IME.

The main issue I see is the traffic situation around T1 & T3. This could be avoided if the traffic wardens in T1 did their job and moved on the private hire (Uber and the like) drivers that sit in the T1 drop off bays waiting to pick people up.

T3 is a bit more difficult as the restrictions after the GLA incident have not been lifted.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 09:32
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Air Transat moving to an all A330 operation next summer.

As of now, there are no A310 scheduled past June.

Despite it being a declining market for a while, TS seems to be ever increasing, even if it is little by little. First winter got a boost, now Summer has a capacity increase too. Great to see.
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Old 24th Sep 2017, 12:43
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I'm going with a completely open mind, will make I'm through security with plenty of time to spare and will "go with the flow" - if I can find a decent wifi signal I will let you know my thoughts.
Arrived in T2 at 11.45am yesterday. Fairly busy terminal and a queue at the Monarch branded check in desks. There seemed to be enough staff as we moved pretty steadily through the "snake" - a smart move by the ground staff saw the Hainan branded check in pressed into use after their last pax were processed. At security just after midday where again pretty busy. Moved steadily through the system but - the shouting and bawling by the security staff threatened to spoil things. How do they get that graceless tone in their voices? Lessons from Vancouver security needed - the Canadians are never less than polite and friendly MAG please note.
There is quite a bit of evidence of the TP construction getting started but, to be honest, not as bad as London Bridge Station etc.
Called to the downstairs temporary departure area at 13.10 and boarding commenced soon after - all handled in a business like manner and departed just + 10 mins due ATC.
Monarch were fine and the flight was uneventful as it should be.

So on the whole little to complain about and having "enjoyed" the delights of Lagos, Islamabad and Mumbai a lot to appreciate ...
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 12:48
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MOAN ALERT ON
Had a new reason to moan about MAN last week.......
As usual pre-booked into Multistorey Carpark (T1 this time).
After usual queue up the entry ramp, saw two tatty cones in front of barrier. NO signage or explanation.
Now - as a regular user, knew the way round this is to drive (sorry, painfully slowly queue) through the dropoff zone and enter the Multistorey via the back entrance barriers (adding to the dropoff zone delays)
Got in the Multistorey to find it was completely full (hence I guess the cones at the front stopping non-prebooked shortstayers)
I spent 15-20 minutes driving all round the levels trying to find a space - along with many other people as we kept repeatedly passing each other. Was about to dump the car in one of their "Premium Spaces" (only half full) and leave a snotty note on the dash, but got a space in the end.
Not a good impression when you "Pre-Book" a space only to find there is none.
Not good for the airport that I then had 20 minutes less to spend money in the Terminal.
Obvious questions:
Why no explanatory sign at the entrance to the carpark - How hard is it to put a sign saying carparks basically full and only available to pre-bookers?. Why is the IT sales systems availability of spaces runs so tight the situation even occurs?
Why can't they adjust the entrance to the dropoff area so it uses the left hand lane of the entry sliproad ramp and leave the right lane open for the multi-storey - Yes, I understand the roadway closest to the Terminal doors is closed for security reasons, but it should be possible to put up a steel blast wall to at least allow the droppoff zone to be filtered in from left hand lane only, so multi-storey bookers would not normally queue.
Before anyone asks the usual - Yes, I have emailed the Airport!
Just sums the airport up for me a lot nowadays. Too busy, poor planning, poor communication and underinvested.
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For balance - Directed downstairs to Jet2 security area as upstairs was busy. Through in 15 minutes. Food in under 5 minutes, seat available. Boarding lounge fine, gate staff fine.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 13:44
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Some Virgin changes for next year:

1xB744 does MCO daily
1xB744 does MCO 5 weekly and LAS 2 weekly
1XB744 does JFK on Tue/Wed/Fri/Sun and ATL Mon/Thu/Sat
1xA333 does JFK on Mon/Thu/Sat and JFK Tue/Wed/Fri/Sun
1xA330 does SFO 3 weekly, BOS 2 weekly and BGI 2 weekly

Interesting to see a B744 on the New York and Atlanta run, but what's good that while the Upper class seats are down, overall seat capacity is up, in fact, it completely restores the weekly seat capacity lost by AA pulling the route, and actually adds a minimum of 149 seats per seek to the market.

The changes to Atlanta take place from 26th March, and JFK from 22nd May.

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Old 25th Sep 2017, 13:54
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Good to see some ACTUAL news about OUR UK Airports including Manchester.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 18:16
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
Some Virgin changes for next year:

1xB744 does MCO daily
1xB744 does MCO 5 weekly and LAS 2 weekly
1XB744 does JFK on Tue/Wed/Fri/Sun and ATL Mon/Thu/Sat
1xA333 does JFK on Mon/Thu/Sun and JFK Tue/Wed/Fri/Sun
1xA330 does SFO 3 weekly, BOS 2 weekly and BGI 2 weekly

Interesting to see a B744 on the New York and Atlanta run, but what's good that while the Upper class seats are down, overall seat capacity is up, in fact, it completely restores the weekly seat capacity lost by AA pulling the route, and actually adds a minimum of 149 seats per seek to the market.

The changes to Atlanta take place from 26th March, and JFK from 22nd May.
Is there something wrong in the first A330 destinations, LAX?

A positive response by VS/DL to AA leaving the MAN-New York market, perhaps. I think the last time we saw a 747 regularly flying this route was the late 1980s with BA/BCAL going LGW-MAN-JFK.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 19:16
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Is there something wrong in the first A330 destinations, LAX?
It looks like the Saturday rotation is incorrectly labelled as another Sunday rotation.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 19:31
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Manchester Statistics - August 2017 (Part 1)

Destinations that are either new (no passengers since my records started in January 2005), or have not been served for a number of years - if the latter then the month and year of the last service is shown.

No new routes to report

Three domestic statistics are currently missing from the CAA report for August.

Belfast City, Belfast International and Inverness are again missing from the initial monthly statistics for August.

Moving monthly and annual figures - based on CAA statistics

Monthly passengers - 3,165,031 + 7.9%
Annual Total- 18,972,653
Moving Annual Total - 27,493,488 + 11.6%

Monthly Movements - 19,948 + 4.8%
Moving Annual Movements - 195,422 + 10.6%

Manchester Statistics -August 2017 (Part 2)

Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers

PALMA............................................. 134,269
ALICANTE......................................... 110,724
AMSTERDAM..................................... 93,846
DUBAI................................................ 89,852
DUBLIN.............................................. 86,998
MALAGA............................................ 85,602
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA)............. 82,094
FARO.................................................. 75,785
ORLANDO.......................................... 63,063
IBIZA................................................... 61,575
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE)............. 56,263
HEATHROW....................................... 55,815
BARCELONA....................................... 54,532
ARRICIFE............................................ 50,165
DALAMAN.......................................... 50,097
NEW YORK JFK................................... 43,441
ABU DHABI......................................... 42,573
PAPHOS.............................................. 41,637
HERAKLION........................................ 39,139
MAHON............................................. 36,439
CORFU................................................ 35,419
FRANKFURT........................................ 34,813
LAS PALMAS....................................... 33,757
DOHA................................................. 32,728
RHODES.............................................. 32,045

CAA statistics for August are provisional.

Manchester Statistics - August 2017 (Part 3)

Top 25 destinations with highest percentage increase.

Destination......................................Total Pax....Schedule Pax....Charter Pax....Percentage change
TOULOUSE.......................................... 7,863............. 7,863.................. 0.................... 220.02
BERLIN (SCHONEFELD)...................... 28,774.......... 28,774................... 0................... 161.92
CAGLIARI................................................ 240..................................... 240................... 155.32
MIKONOS............................................ 6,425............. 6,425................... 0.................. 139.47
HAMBURG........................................ 30,146........... 30,146.................. 0.................... 119.08
OPORTO............................................. 9,221............. 9,221................... 0.................... 115.39
BOSTON............................................ 10,449........... 10,449.................. 0.................... 115.35
SPLIT................................................. 14,384............ 12,291........... 7,219.................... 99.252
CUNAGUA........................................... 5,528............. 5,528................... 0.................... 98.492
OLBIA................................................. 6,252.............. 4,784.......... 1 ,468..................... 98.413
DUBROVNIK...................................... 20,294............ 20,294................. 0...................... 93.129
KRAKOW........................................... 13,802............ 13,802.................. 0..................... 90.425
ILHA DO SAL CAPE VERDE.................. 5,820............... 5,820................. 0..................... 85.883
HURGHADA........................................ 8,764.............. 8,764.................. 0.................... 81.074
SALONIKA......................................... 11,249.............. 7,848............ 3,401................... 69.362
CATANIA (FONTANAROSSA)............... 7,523.............. 6,068........... 1,455.................... 64.725
LOS ANGELES...................................... 7,694............... 7,694................. 0.................... 46.972
GDANSK.............................................. 4,636............... 4,636................. 0.................... 45.011
NEWQUAY......................................... 10,545............ 10,545................. 0.................... 44.769
BILBAO................................................ 7,288.............. 7,288.................. 0.................... 43,804
LISBON.............................................. 26,419............ 26,419................. 0..................... 43.621
GIBRALTAR........................................ 11,241............ 11,241................. 0..................... 43.435
BOA VISTA.......................................... 5,828............... 5,828................. 0..................... 41.732
PREVEZA............................................ 11,755.............. 8,335........... 3,420.................... 38.473
LAS VEGAS......................................... 17,061............. 17,061................ 0..................... 37.473

CAA statistics for August are provisional.


Manchester Statistics - August 2017 (Part 4)

Figures for the European and long haul destinations that I consider to be the main points for our connecting traffic.

Foreign_airport……..Total_Pax 2016……..Total Pax 2017……% change
VIENNA…………………. 10,007……….…………… 10,891……………….. +8.8338
BRUSSELS……………… 15,807……………………. 16,729……………….. +5.8329
BEIJING…………………… 9,287………………….… 12,117.………………. +30.473
PRAGUE………………… 11,886……………………. 13,942…….…………. +17.298
COPENHAGEN………. 29,356……………………. 27,987……………….. -4.663
HELSINKI………………... 9,711…………….……... 10,356……………….. +6.642
PARIS (CDG)…………… 53,366……………………. 56,293…………….... +5.4848
DUSSELDORF…………. 19,761………..………….. 23,715……………….. +20.009
FRANKFURT MAIN…. 38,613……………………. 34,813….…………….. -9.841
MUNICH………………… 30,469..…………………. 33,324………………… +2.8061
HONG KONG………….. 10,543….………………… 11,112 ……….……… +5.3969
KEFLAVIK………………….. 7,839……………………… 9,823………………… +25.309
DUBLIN…………………… 90,135……………………. 86,998………….……. -3.48
MILAN (MALPENSA).. 14,017……………………. 17,239……………….. +22.986
ROME (FIUMICINO).. 12,348..………………….. 12,806……………….. +3.7091
AMSTERDAM…………. 91,456…………………….. 93,846.……………... +2.6133
ISLAMABAD……………. 25,268..…………………… 15,409………………. -39.02
LISBON …………………… 18,395…………………….. 26,419………..…….. +43.621
DOHA…………………….. 33,989…………………….. 32,728………………. -3.71
JEDDAH……………………. 8,074………………………. 9,101……………….. +12.72
SINGAPORE……………. 10,450………………………. 7,715……………….. -26.17
MADRID…………………. 14,963…………………….. 15,240………………. +1.8512
STOCKHOLM (ARN)… 13,254…………………….. 17,467………………. +31.787
GENEVA…………………. 19,286…………………….. 21,052….………..... +9.1569
ZURICH……………………. 9,548……………………… 10,929………………. +14.464
ABU DHABI…………….. 44,633……………….……. 42,573…..…………. -4.615
DUBAI…………………….. 81,321.……………………. 89,852………………. +10.491
ATLANTA……………….. 13,577…….……………….. 12,960………………. -4.544
CHICAGO…..…………… 10,127…………………….. 10,418………………. -2.793
HOUSTON……………..………… 0………………………. 4,981………………. +0.00
NEW YORK (JFK)……… 38,119…………………….. 43,441………..……. +13.962
NEW YORK (NEWARK). 9,152………………………. 9,180………………. +0.3059
PHILADELPHIA………… 11,758……………………… 11,796……..………. +0.3232
HEATHROW……………. 58,179……………………… 55,815……………… -4.063

CAA statistics for August are provisional.


Manchester Statistics - August 2017 (Part 5)

Comparison of top 25 destinations - July 2007 versus July 2017

Foreign airport...........................August-07...........August-17
PALMA.............................................. 118,879................. 134,269
DALAMAN.......................................... 83,056.................. 50,097
MALAGA............................................ 74,337.................. 85,602
ALICANTE........................................... 71,168.................. 110,724
HEATHROW....................................... 71,142.................. 55,815
FARO.................................................. 63,529.................. 75,785
DUBLIN............................................... 61,398.................. 86,998
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA)............. 56,374.................. 82,094
SANFORD.......................................... 50,775.................... 7,949
AMSTERDAM..................................... 50,751.................. 93,846
DUBAI................................................ 48,693.................. 89,852
IBIZA.................................................. 48,136.................. 61,575
LARNACA........................................... 46,059.................. 24,885
PAPHOS............................................. 44,084.................. 41,637
HERAKLION........................................ 42,332.................. 39,139
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE)............. 43,298.................. 56,293
RHODES............................................. 36,712.................. 32,045
MAHON............................................. 36,455.................. 36,439
ORLANDO.......................................... 30,016.................. 53,840
ARRECIFE........................................... 33,933.................. 50,165
CORFU............................................... 33,761.................. 35,419
ZAKINTHOS........................................ 32,897.................. 29,337
BODRUM........................................... 31,547.................. 12,217
GATWICK........................................... 30,800.................. 0
FRANKFURT....................................... 30,733.................. 34,813

CAA are statistics for August are provisional.

Last edited by Scottie Dog; 26th Sep 2017 at 07:43. Reason: Correction of Moving Annual Total (Passengers)
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 20:15
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Reported elsewhere the reason the 747 has been drafted in is due to overrunning A330 refits/maintenance.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 21:48
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Originally Posted by 7griffinjack View Post
It looks like the Saturday rotation is incorrectly labelled as another Sunday rotation.
I was thinking more that the JFK and the ATL route are split across one of the B744 and one of the A330s, just not sure which does which days.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 21:53
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The EK22 to Dubai was cancelled this morning after a mouse was spotted on board. Naturally the A380 involved was the one with a special "United for Wildlife" animal livery adorning the fuselage
The aircraft now has to be fumigated and the uninvited guest awaits its fate - if it hasn't escaped already !
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