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not worth it. It would be convenient but really you need somewhere that acts as a feeder airport such as DUB. EI Connects PAX from Europe to N America and N America to Europe where as MAN just acts as people’s ‘local airport’
I read the other day on another forum that it is 3 B789 plus part time B788, 2 B763 , 13 B738 and the bit I cannot remember is how many B752
but of course this all depends on the MAX situation.
but of course this all depends on the MAX situation.
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Are you just a wind-up merchant? If not, I'd be interested in how you define 'local'.
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I assume he’s talking about the high level of O&D at MAN, rather than suggesting MAN is some sort of tinpot backwater. There is no dominant hub airline at MAN, which limits commenting flow. A lot of posters are obsessed with connections, as if they solve any problem. But the reality is connections are low-yield, helping to fill the plane, but not necessarily profitable. All of MANs long haul is supported by good volume and good yield O&D, which is quite an achievement.
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I had a first on Friday 29th Nov with EK when on the evening flight. The the ground power was disconnected before the A/C power was up. Total black out on board and 45min delay before all systems back up. It was a first for me, and the re boot time surprised me a little. Italian skipper also obviously not impressed as we had a quick take off and fast trip to DXB, be interested to know who picks up the tab for fuel etc.
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I had a first on Friday 29th Nov with EK when on the evening flight. The the ground power was disconnected before the A/C power was up. Total black out on board and 45min delay before all systems back up. It was a first for me, and the re boot time surprised me a little. Italian skipper also obviously not impressed as we had a quick take off and fast trip to DXB, be interested to know who picks up the tab for fuel etc.
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Mr Mac
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The ground crew have to inform the flight crew prior to a disconnect...but did this happen?
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FEP or GPU power being accidentally disconnected happens multiple times a day, at MAN alone - nevermind across the globe! Whether it's through the FEP/GPU tripping, the GPU running out of fuel, someone accidentally turning the GPU/FEP off, knocking the cable out of the socket etc... I've seen it all before.
Including people driving the GPU away whilst it's still attached
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[QUOTE=750XL;10638228]Dnata handle EK.
FEP or GPU power being accidentally disconnected happens multiple times a day, at MAN alone - nevermind across the globe! Whether it's through the FEP/GPU tripping, the GPU running out of fuel, someone accidentally turning the GPU/FEP off, knocking the cable out of the socket etc... I've seen it all before.
Including people driving the GPU away whilst it's still attached
Interesting...thanks for the insight. I’ve not much idea how ground ops work, however, if it’s causing a big problem, as in this case, what improvements can be made to reduce the chances of this happening before it actually needs disconnecting...? Appreciate it’s sometimes too easy for this to happen...
FEP or GPU power being accidentally disconnected happens multiple times a day, at MAN alone - nevermind across the globe! Whether it's through the FEP/GPU tripping, the GPU running out of fuel, someone accidentally turning the GPU/FEP off, knocking the cable out of the socket etc... I've seen it all before.
Including people driving the GPU away whilst it's still attached
Interesting...thanks for the insight. I’ve not much idea how ground ops work, however, if it’s causing a big problem, as in this case, what improvements can be made to reduce the chances of this happening before it actually needs disconnecting...? Appreciate it’s sometimes too easy for this to happen...
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It’s becoming the norm that tech crew are unwilling to Start the APU until the final moment.
untill the APU has started the ground crew shouldn’t remove the external power.
my observations are that tech crew get clearance APU just started or about to start.
Ground power is removed sometimes to early. Complete reboot needed which takes 30 to 40 mins aircraft dependent.
Some tech crew English is appalling, some refuse to speak in English, mixed messages happen causing last minute snags.
Do not always blame the contractor. In my experience most of the time the fault is with the tech crew. Lack of communication then want immediate pushback.
untill the APU has started the ground crew shouldn’t remove the external power.
my observations are that tech crew get clearance APU just started or about to start.
Ground power is removed sometimes to early. Complete reboot needed which takes 30 to 40 mins aircraft dependent.
Some tech crew English is appalling, some refuse to speak in English, mixed messages happen causing last minute snags.
Do not always blame the contractor. In my experience most of the time the fault is with the tech crew. Lack of communication then want immediate pushback.
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Thanks for the reply. I am not sure this is that common, or if it is, I have been very lucky as this, as I say was a first, and I do a minimum of circa 250000 flying miles a year and never experienced it. Thanks for the back ground re handlers as I know someone in Geneva who is quite senior at Dnata , so I think some gentle leg pulling maybe in order ! Anybody know who recompenses the airline for the delay / extra fuel burn will that be Dnata as well ?
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Mr Mac
Kind regards
Mr Mac
Thanks for the reply. I am not sure this is that common, or if it is, I have been very lucky as this, as I say was a first, and I do a minimum of circa 250000 flying miles a year and never experienced it. Thanks for the back ground re handlers as I know someone in Geneva who is quite senior at Dnata , so I think some gentle leg pulling maybe in order ! Anybody know who recompenses the airline for the delay / extra fuel burn will that be Dnata as well ?
Kind regards
Mr Mac
Kind regards
Mr Mac
I had a first on Friday 29th Nov with EK when on the evening flight. The the ground power was disconnected before the A/C power was up. Total black out on board and 45min delay before all systems back up. It was a first for me, and the re boot time surprised me a little. Italian skipper also obviously not impressed as we had a quick take off and fast trip to DXB, be interested to know who picks up the tab for fuel etc.
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Mr Mac
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Mr Mac
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It happens. Somethimes its a breakdown in communication between gound crew/engineer/flight deck, I've even see a flight crew deselect the gound power before the APU is on-line. Often it just drops off line on its own. It's been a major headache at MAN for years. The 'newer' aircraft such as the A350 and B787 are very heavy electrical users (up to 180 KvA) and the FEP (Fixed Electrical Power) at MAN has been subject to upgrades ever since the 747-400 appeared but as usual at MAN it seems to be on the cheap every time. Any delay caused will be subject to the usual blame game. Ground handling, airport equipment or tech etc.