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Old 24th Jul 2019, 20:27
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23L arrivals

Has there been some sort of issue with 23R as arrivals into MAN have been using 23L for the last half hour, makes for a noisy evening locally.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 23:17
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Has there been some sort of issue with 23R as arrivals into MAN have been using 23L for the last half hour, makes for a noisy evening locally.
FR with a burst tyre was circulating
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 07:20
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Has there been some sort of issue with 23R as arrivals into MAN have been using 23L for the last half hour, makes for a noisy evening locally.
An emergency repair to 23R was required.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 09:54
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Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants View Post


An emergency repair to 23R was required.
Hi JFP,

Not sure if you can answer this.

If MAN had been on easterlies, would T/O's be allowed on 05R?
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 09:57
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Yes is the answer but at a reduced departure rate due backtracking involved, however at that time of day most were arrivals
All I can say thank god we have the second runway as it would have cause many diversions and huge delays
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 13:03
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If MAN had been on easterlies, would T/O's be allowed on 05R?
Yes, done it myself a long time ago. It’s a pain in the bum though as flights have to backtrack the runway for departure, it therefore affects flow rates quite dramatically.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 14:11
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Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants View Post


Yes, done it myself a long time ago. Itís a pain in the bum though as flights have to backtrack the runway for departure, it therefore affects flow rates quite dramatically.
Thanks guys,

I have landed on 23L as SLF but never seen an aircraft depart from 05R, hence the question.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 14:54
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They backtrack aircraft in groups of upto 3 aircraft at a time same as landings
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 13:38
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 13:38
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 13:55
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 13:56
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 13:59
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Manchester Airport, in collaboration with Menzies Aviation, EasyJet and Jet2.com, will be trialling the concept of a remote de-icing pad for Winter 2019/2020. However, a pre-season test of the process will be undertaken at the end of July.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 18:38
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Originally Posted by Scottie Dog View Post
Manchester Airport, in collaboration with Menzies Aviation, EasyJet and Jet2.com, will be trialling the concept of a remote de-icing pad for Winter 2019/2020. However, a pre-season test of the process will be undertaken at the end of July.
will not be happening at the end of July as the decision on where the two deicing lads are going has not been made yet
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 18:50
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will not be happening at the end of July as the decision on where the two deicing lads are going has not been made yet
OAN 77-2019 REMOTE DE-ICING PAD OPERATION reproduced on another forum shows it between B4 and B5.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 22:38
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They have changed there mind as of Wednesday night
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 00:05
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Since this is now in the public domain I thought I would post this which is taken from the Minutes of the Annual Meeting of the Manchester Airport Consultative Committee meeting on 12th April 2019

Members had also expressed disappointment that no permanent fix was imminent for the leaking roof over the Skylink and that the walkways were difficult to repair as they were old and it was hard to obtain replacement parts.

Brad Miller explained that both of these issues had also been raised by airlines. The walkways were also of non standard design which meant parts were difficult to source. Both items would be part of a medium Ė long term review but there would be no immediate fix.

I had separately written to the Chief Operating Officer and the following is part of the response received:

"As you are aware, the majority of the travellators at Manchester Airport, are aging assets which, need maintaining on a more regular basis. We are currently revising the holding for long lead time items with a view to minimising asset downtime. This review extends beyond the Skylink and covers all lifts, escalator and travellator assets with any stock being held on site at Manchester.

The elevators closest to the GTI have been out of action due to exceptional circumstances. Both lifts in this area were out of service due to a local power station being flooded, which affected the power supply. Whilst one of the elevators was reinstated very quickly the other suffered a power board failure during the outage, and I am happy to report that this lift has now subsequently been returned to service."


Hopefully we will see improvements over the coming months - although this will not be a quick fix.


These out of service escalators and travellators require replacement of core drive components which have a long non-UK manufacture lead time.

These assets form part of a remediation plan that is now live and will span from June-October 2019. Our facilities management team are continually addressing the leak issue within the Skylink area however, until all leaks are identified, and the areas repaired, the capturing of water will remain in the interest of passenger and visitor safety. Whilst we appreciate the appearance may not be appealing on the eye it is only a temporary measure and is being constantly reviewed.
You wonder why they buy non standard equipment in the first place. Instead of these costly repairs in customer experience & money- why were they not replaced with modern, efficient standard models years ago?
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 08:15
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​​​​Mr. A ĎTis what you have here with the travalators is a direct result of competitive tendering and the specification procurement processes.

Someone out their got their product built into an NBS Standard with an architect and that practice along with quantity surveyors built it into the bills at pricing stage.

Little things like none stock sprockets, pinions, chain pitches , pulleys , motors gearboxes and indeed parts that are certified or hold any form of intellectual property rights are ubiquitous within manufacturing processes in an attempt to lock in future maintenance and repairs for the said business models.

As said sometime ago I know this process these machines and currently some parts are on a minimum 12 week lead time plus shipping from the date final manufacturing is approved.

When the tenders go out to price the works add another 2 months at the very least !

And as for storage some of these parts will need to be held on site in a hanger in dry and clean conditions because my warehouses and those of the competitors in Leicester Northampton and Telford ainít got the space for long term storage.

Nor would we want to take the risk of damage and loss without a significant payment up front .

All these add to the cost and prices charged.

Some of the chains and pulley and cables might well look the same as parts available from Brammer off the shelf however the risk assessment time and certification processes on these machines will preclude them from use period.

Go have a look on YouTube at some of the botched repairs and DEATHS especially in China and South East Asia , it ainít nice.

So cut the airport authorities a bit of slack on this matter at the moment , itís a work in process .

It very costly and will take some time.

if they issue a tender to completely replace the machines we are talking at least a year in procurement , a month to install and several millions of pounds !

The three main assembly plants for these machines have order books and schedules for at least three years already.

So no quick solutions sorry.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 13:18
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Parked today on the new pier- gate 104. Rouge late as usual but held off stand due no guidance docking switched on and also some FOD on the run in area.
it,s a heck of a walk to immigration & thatís from one of the nearest gates. Two paltry walkways that barely impact the trek.
Canít help but feel underwhelmed by the new facility. Will there be more walkways?
On a positive note, no queues at immigration and bags arrived swiftly, which is very unusual for Swissport,
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 13:38
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Sorry about the walk but, as has been said before, you are having to currently also cross the entire width of the new terminal extension before reaching the present immigration facility. Hopefully, once the extension opens next April it will not be such a hike.
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