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Old 9th Nov 2019, 09:40
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Originally Posted by BIZZYBOY


What an awful looking and uninviting addition. Who designs these bolt on ideas. Sir Norman Foster would certainly not approve. When you look at Airports around the world they are meant to hold some beauty and be inspiring keeping the romance of air travel fresh and alive. Stansted when built done just that unfortunately it has not maintained or kept to the original look.
I second that- it looks hideous and doesn't align at all with STN's design philosophy of the original terminal. Certainly a step backwards as far as aesthetics go, although glad to see it is only temporary.
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I second that- it looks hideous and doesn't align at all with STN's design philosophy of the original terminal. Certainly a step backwards as far as aesthetics go, although glad to see it is only temporary.
My thoughts are the same with the new arrivals terminal (when it’s built). It bears no resemblance to the current terminal. Where as under BAA ownership the terminal was extended a couple of times. Surely extending it out further towards the Radisson would be better (aesthetically). Do (what was the BAA) own the rights to the original design?
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My thoughts are the same with the new arrivals terminal (when it’s built). It bears no resemblance to the current terminal. Where as under BAA ownership the terminal was extended a couple of times. Surely extending it out further towards the Radisson would be better (aesthetically). Do (what was the BAA) own the rights to the original design?
I think you'll find that M.A.G really don't care about aesthetics and more about the bottom line. If you follow the MAN thread, you'll see just how bad a job they've done with the T2 expansion. The project has really been value engineered to within an inch of its life with absolutly no redeeming architectural features what so ever and bears no resemblance to the still modern looking original T2 construction.
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Anyone know what the temporary looking outside extension is at the far end of the terminal building?

Contains two new "superlanes" for security, running trials at the moment. Will have the new 3D scanners fitted next year (liquids in bag laptops in bag as at Schiphol ),at the moment using same as rest of security lanes but twice the length twenty staff per lane.
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Anyone know what the temporary looking outside extension is at the far end of the terminal building?

Contains two new "superlanes" for security, running trials at the moment. Will have the new 3D scanners fitted next year (liquids in bag laptops in bag as at Schiphol ),at the moment using same as rest of security lanes but twice the length twenty staff per lane.
Any interior shots of the new temporary extension?
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Originally Posted by JW95
I see that Jet 2 has succeed in acquiring all of Thomas Cook's slots at STN. Will be interesting to see how these are used and possible new routes opening up from here- certainly, interesting times ahead for LS, and in time could see them overtake EZY to become number 2 at STN.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50350531

I wonder what new routes (if any) can we expect, in addition to expansion on existing frequencies?
in terms of based AC they are already number 2
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Ural airlines

Ural STN - DME service now showing for summer 20
As can be found in GDS and Ural website


still 4 x p/w but with some amended flight times

site won’t let me post the link but can be found on routes online

Flight has potential when looked as a point to point vs Wizz, but with with the addition of the new DME connections ( as opposed to ZIA) the connections have lots on onward potential for the likes of St Petersburg / sochi / Yekaterinburg / kazan / novosibiersk / Tomsk Etc,

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If I remember correctly there were plans for a mezzanine seating area above the shops and restaurants airside. Does anyone have any updates?
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If I remember correctly there were plans for a mezzanine seating area above the shops and restaurants airside. Does anyone have any updates?
I believe the mezzanine area has now been opened, I think it is where the Camden restaurant is?
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I believe the mezzanine area has now been opened, I think it is where the Camden restaurant is?
I’m aware of that one and it’s the same in the Windmill Pub but I was meaning a generic passenger seating area that I believe was planned.
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That extension looks like a contractors village of bolted together portocabins and is the sort of thing penny pinching Luton would build as a permanent structure. Got to say it looks awful.

Surprised these are the first photos of this monstrosity to be seen. Does no one here who posts regularly visit the airport with a camera? Seem not or was it knocked up over a weekend as it looks rather modular.

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Originally Posted by Harrych


I’m aware of that one and it’s the same in the Windmill Pub but I was meaning a generic passenger seating area that I believe was planned.
Definitely didn't see one on my last visit, only the areas you've mentioned above, although, i do recall seeing contractors and building work going in in the departure lounge back in September, so perhaps it has since been opened?
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Originally Posted by LTNman
That extension looks like a contractors village of bolted together portocabins and is the sort of thing penny pinching Luton would build as a permanent structure. Got to say it looks awful.

Surprised these are the first photos of this monstrosity to be seen. Does no one here who posts regularly visit the airport with a camera? Seem not or was it knocked up over a weekend as it looks rather modular.
Whilst I agree that aesthetically it looks poor/out of place, it is (as mentioned) temporary.

There’s also a big area of scaffolding right in the middle of the outside of the front of the building. I can only guess they are building a new entrance/exit point to the terminal?

The new check in area looks great. Will look amazing once this has been extended the full length of the building and security has been re-located. There’s a great transformation video on YouTube for anyone who is unfamiliar with what is planned.
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Whilst I agree that aesthetically it looks poor/out of place, it is (as mentioned) temporary.

There’s also a big area of scaffolding right in the middle of the outside of the front of the building. I can only guess they are building a new entrance/exit point to the terminal?

The new check in area looks great. Will look amazing once this has been extended the full length of the building and security has been re-located. There’s a great transformation video on YouTube for anyone who is unfamiliar with what is planned.
The huge ammount of scaffolding was to repaint/clean the smoke dammage from the bus fire last year. It has taken seven months to build the security superlanes hardly "knocked up in a weekend"
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The huge ammount of scaffolding was to repaint/clean the smoke dammage from the bus fire last year. It has taken seven months to build the security superlanes hardly "knocked up in a weekend"
Thanks for the info carousel.
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Does anyone know how the air India loads have been recently?

Do they carry cargo?
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Originally Posted by BIZZYBOY
What an awful looking and uninviting addition. Who designs these bolt on ideas. Sir Norman Foster would certainly not approve. When you look at Airports around the world they are meant to hold some beauty and be inspiring keeping the romance of air travel fresh and alive. Stansted when built done just that unfortunately it has not maintained or kept to the original look.
Ouch!
Sad to say this is what happens when award winning iconic buildings (YES, I mean you Stansted Airport) need to be adapted at commercial rates to add shareholder value.
It was built as a national asset part of UK PLC, capitalist though I am, this is the price of flogging of the family silver. Worth it though, on balance. Just. Maybe...
But yes, looks awful, am a huge fan of original un-adapted building with clear purpose. MAG has had particular issues where MAN T3 is not being used close to it's designed purpose of high frequency commuter flights for business purposes on mainly 100 seat aircraft, with the odd heavy. MAN T2 also suffers from "Half pint pot" syndrome, but in fairness, STN is now a long way from the hassle free way to board an Air UK 146 to connect via AMS.
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Alas beautifully designed buildings cost more money than basic pre-fabricated sheds... and most of us want to be able to fly as cheaply as possible when going for leisure
Yes there is a limit (Marseille terminal 2, with metal cages, I am looking at you) but Stansted seems to be sufficiently comfortable that people will put up with its desire to extract money from pax via retail
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Alas beautifully designed buildings cost more money than basic pre-fabricated sheds... and most of us want to be able to fly as cheaply as possible when going for leisure
Yes there is a limit (Marseille terminal 2, with metal cages, I am looking at you) but Stansted seems to be sufficiently comfortable that people will put up with its desire to extract money from pax via retail
It's not "extra money" in any way, it's core revenue. Airline charges have withered so much that to even cover costs, airports have to discount massively to get the operators in at all, (e.g. Ryanair) and as a consequence, the money comes from retail charges and profit share. The only things that really matter, are safety, security and shopping, there's no other way. There are exceptions like LHR where a premium is paid as yields can be *much* higher, or YYZ where you either pay or fly from Hamilton.
Personally, I grew up watching BAA build shiney new facilities at GLA, only for the market to fragment and move East. It was only the agreed strategy to force growth at GLA what allowed an ROI to justify what GLA now has over EDI. Even though EDI has way more traffic, the facilities at GLA remain superior, with 12 airbridge capable stands, something EDI is only now addressing and only in a rather basic manner.
STN was (re-)built with another world in mind, less Westfield more Heathrow.

BAA was allowed to take a wider strategic view but it was close to being a monopoly, and now we may have gone a little too far the other way?

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