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[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Glasgow had a lounge at two daily I think?

KL had a big operation at STN back in the day. What was once the AirUK operation, later KLMuk and finally Buzz. What is now the weatherspoons in satellite 2 was once a KLM lounge. Some of the blue panelling still remains!

Oh that’s brilliant, modern UK aviation right there!

[STN406]

Originally Posted by pamann

HiFly have operated from Satellite 1 a couple of times of late, so I’d say yes.

Though we did have the HiFly A388 in Stansted a couple of times. It didn’t use any jet bridges, so all passengers used steps and none of the flights where full. If I remember they where just about half full.

[brian_dromey]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot

Glasgow had a lounge at two daily I think?


Oh that’s brilliant, modern UK aviation right there!

Just pointing out that STN hasn't always been a the LCC central that it is today.

Can anyone remember where the MaxJet and No1 lounges used to be, any photos of them or evidence of where they used to be? Were they in the same locations and is this where the rumoured Emirates lounge might be?

[pamann]

Originally Posted by brian_dromey

Just pointing out that STN hasn't always been a the LCC central that it is today.

Can anyone remember where the MaxJet and No1 lounges used to be, any photos of them or evidence of where they used to be? Were they in the same locations and is this where the rumoured Emirates lounge might be?

Number One lounge was at the far end of satellite 1. Runway end.

Not to sure about satellite 3.

To to be honest it was probably more of a low cost hub back then (MaxJet days). At least in 2019 Stansted has more legacy/full service carriers then it did back then including Emirates with its First suites. Air India coming, SAS, BA thanks to MAG. Hopefully more diversity of airlines to follow.

[_aax1]

Turkish Flights

Does anyone else think there will be some new airlines replacing some of the capacity lost by TCX to the Turkish holiday resorts of AYT, BJV and DLM?

Dalaman was 12 weekly in the peak summer whilst Antalya was daily from memory from STN alone. You only need to look at prices on Skyscanner from London to AYT, DLM and BJV to see the flights are in really high demand, there needs to be some uplift in capacity.

Could we see Pegasus putting some direct flights on to these destinations? Or possibly a new entrant such as Turkish Airlines, SunExpress or Correndon coming in with scheduled ops with tour operators buying seats in addition to direct sales?

[whitelighter]

Last thing that airport needs more flights by airlines that can’t understand simple instructions.

[pamann]

Originally Posted by whitelighter

Last thing that airport needs more flights by airlines that can’t understand simple instructions.

Care to elaborate?

[whitelighter]

Let’s just say there are certain carriers where extra slow words twice is almost the standard.

and you certainly don’t try to push any limits

[pamann]

Originally Posted by whitelighter

Let’s just say there are certain carriers where extra slow words twice is almost the standard.

and you certainly don’t try to push any limits

Still doesn’t make any sense to me. Though I’m assuming it’s in relation to the aforementioned Turkish carriers? English not being their first language, so what’s the issue?

In other news...

Tui have added a flight to Enfidha on a Friday next summer. Showing as ‘other carrier’ so assuming it’ll be Nouvelair or similar. There’s other gaps in the programme on a Thursday and Friday I believe? I’d expect we’ll see some changes/new flights in the next couple of weeks.

[dc9-32]

Still doesn’t make any sense to me. Though I’m assuming it’s in relation to the aforementioned Turkish carriers? English not being their first language, so what’s the issue?

I would say that if any crew do not understand English, it becomes a flight safety issue. There are standards to maintain.

[pamann]

Originally Posted by dc9-32

I would say that if any crew do not understand English, it becomes a flight safety issue. There are standards to maintain.

There's no mention of crew in the original statement, hence why I probed. Sounds more like a sweeping xenophobic comment if you ask me.

[Packer27L]

Originally Posted by pamann

There's no mention of crew in the original statement, hence why I probed. Sounds more like a sweeping xenophobic comment if you ask me.

Sounds like an experienced ATC view if you ask me. Some carriers need wrapping in cotton wool when it comes to ensuring safety margins. Pilots from that part of the world calling “runway vacated” while still on the centreline does not fill one with confidence.

[pamann]

TUI Summer 2020 Programme

Monday
STN-MAH 0625/0950 MAH-STN 1100/1225
STN-DLM 0715/1315 DLM-STN 1425/1640
STN-LPA 1355/1820 LPA-STN 1925/2335
STN-CFU 1800/2300 CFU-STN 0005/0115+1
STN-AYT 2020/0240+1 AYT-STN 1650/1920 (other carrier)

Tuesday
STN-PMI 0625/0950 PMI-STN 1050/1220
STN-ZTH 0745/1320 ZTH-STN 1420/1550
STN-HRG 1355/2030 HRG-STN 2130/0200+1
STN-AYT 1715/2325 AYT-STN 0025/0250+1

Wednesday
STN-RHO 0735/1330 RHO-STN 1430/1640
STN-PFO 0815/1435 PFO-STN 1550/1830
STN-DLM 0920/1520 DLM-STN 0600/0820 (other carrier)
STN-KGS 1800/2345 KGS-STN 0045/0255+1
STN-IBZ 1955/2325 IBZ-STN 0025/0155+1

Thursday
STN-ZTH 0515/1050 ZTH-STN 1150/1320
STN-HER 0720/1315 HER-STN 1415/1620
STN-PMI 1050/1415 PMI-STN 0835/1000 (other carrier)
STN-DLM 1625/2220 DLM-STN 2320/0135+1
STN-BOJ 1755/2325 BOJ-STN 0040/0205+1

Friday
STN-MAH 0720/1045 MAH-STN 1200/1325
STN-CFU 0805/1305 CFU-STN 1405/1515
STN-JSI 1405/1920 JSI-STN 2020/2150
STN-TFS 1450/1915 TFS-STN 2030/0035+1
STN-NBE 1825/2125 NBE-STN 1415/1725 (other carrier)
STN-AYT 2020/0240+1 AYT-STN 1650/1920 (other carrier)

Saturday
STN-PMI 0755/1120 PMI-STN 1230/1400
STN-IBZ 0835/1205 IBZ-STN 1310/1440
STN-RHO 1535/2130 RHO-STN 2230/0040+1
STN-PFO 1610/2230 PFO-STN 2345/0225 +1
STN-DLM 1940/0140+1 DLM-STN 1620/1840 (other carrier)

Sunday
STN-FAO 0615/0905 FAO-STN 1005/1250
STN-EFL 0800/1320 EFL-STN 1420/1545
STN-LCA 1405/2030 LCA-STN 2155/0045 +1
STN-AYT 2020/0240+1 AYT-STN 1650/1920 (other carrier)


New routes on a Friday to Skiathos and Enfidha (Tunisia).

Lots of third party flying to Turkey/Third party flying to Palma on Thursday/Enfidha on Friday.

Looks like a gap on a Sunday afternoon, unless I've missed something?

[AirportPlanner1]

Sunday afternoon used to be time for SSH. The Sec of State announced today the U.K. ban has been lifted...

[OltonPete]

Emirates A380

Originally Posted by Musket90

Have heard the same that if A380 is introduced then schedule will reduce to 1 x daily.

Has Stansted had an Emirates A380 before?

It looks like they are getting EK37 DXB-BHX which did one approach and went around at BHX.

Pete

[daz211]

I heard he parked at FedEx, flight now on the departure board, STD to BHX 2105.
I guess if the double jet Bridge rumours are true, Stansted would be well placed for UK diverts.

[_aax1]

Eurowings

Last EW flight operates from STN today to CGN. Apart from a few ski flights to SZG, the airline has now completely pulled out of STN. A shame, bearing in mind they had up to 7 daily flights in their peak just last year.

[JW95]

Eurowings/Germanwings

Originally Posted by _aax1

Last EW flight operates from STN today to CGN. Apart from a few ski flights to SZG, the airline has now completely pulled out of STN. A shame, bearing in mind they had up to 7 daily flights in their peak just last year.

Sad to see them leaving STN. EW/Germanwings had been at STN for a very long time, and at one point was the sole operator of the CGN route before FR joined in with 3 flights daily. Always enjoyed flying with them and genuinely found the experience to be nicer than that of FR. The CGN route should be returning soon though (was moved to seasonal earlier this year, I guess because of competition with FR). So hopefully it won't be the last we see EW flying out of Stansted. I wonder if any other carrier might consider taking over some of EW's former routes? (e.g. STN-DUS, STN-STR).

[scodaman]

After 20 years of operation the last LDY - STN flight took off and returned yesterday. Route started in 1999 by Ryanair and was then taken over by Flybmi in 2017 when Ryanair pulled out. Was then operated earlier this year by Loganair the sister company of Flybmi when Flybmi went bust in Feb this year. Loganair moved the route to Southend starting today.

[WHBM]

Came through yesterday. Had used the Blue car park recently built at the north end of the site. Being mostly full, the walking distance from the terminal to the car at the outer end must be the best part of a mile, no kidding. Not fun after midnight in the rain. Plus it seems that you cannot leave the family in the terminal and come back with the car to pick them up at the door without getting done for further charges. But the key thing is the walking route, zig-zagged, incomplete and inadequately signed, in a way that is quite outside anything that would be within the regulations on public roads. Notably the zebra crossing at one point has been reinforced with substantial temporary warning signs of it for drivers, generally the indication of there having been one or more accidents there.

Customs queue at midnight gave us a tally on entry to gauge how long we had queued. We were 25 minutes. Officer receiving it said this was "quite good", and earlier that day they had 2 hours.