Stansted-3

[USERNAME_]

Originally Posted by mik3bravo

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[southside bobby]

Another excellent set of figures produced in August...

Pax 2,975,568 on the month for +8.5%.

Rolling 12 months now 27,223,584 for +7.9%.

Record day 24th August with 101,500 pax passing thru.

Cargo +3.8% on the month for over 22,000 tonnes.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

BAA and later MAG have utterly destroyed the Stansted experience. The concept of kerb to plane for which the terminal was built has now reached a nadir of the worst procession through the most shops of any UK airport. To be clear, no airport I have been in takes you through such a tortuous route before you sight an aircraft.
There’s just no room! The restaurants were queued out blocking people trying to run for flights.

The rest of the airport is fine, Sat 1 and 2 have decent seating and views but with no return to terminal option without a help phone, most people are trapped in the terminal. At least at LHR, frequent fliers can get out to the satellites in good time and back if required. Such a shame as STN started out with amazing potential but it’s a zoo at the moment.

[southside bobby]

According to Routes... EWG (continue) utilizing leased TUIfly B738 a/c systemwide for Winter18...

Visits for STN will be a 1 weekly appearance on the CGN sched

& 6 weekly visits on the HAJ sched.

[wowzz]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot

BAA and later MAG have utterly destroyed the Stansted experience. The concept of kerb to plane for which the terminal was built has now reached a nadir of the worst procession through the most shops of any UK airport. To be clear, no airport I have been in takes you through such a tortuous route before you sight an aircraft.
There’s just no room! The restaurants were queued out blocking people trying to run for flights.

The rest of the airport is fine, Sat 1 and 2 have decent seating and views but with no return to terminal option without a help phone, most people are trapped in the terminal. At least at LHR, frequent fliers can get out to the satellites in good time and back if required. Such a shame as STN started out with amazing potential but it’s a zoo at the moment.

Totally agree with your comments. Having used STN for some 25 years, I cry when I think about the excellent airport it was then, compared to what it has become. I haven't used the airport for 3 years - I refuse to have to sit on the floor (which was the situation when I last flew from there) because all the passenger space has been given over to retail units. And every time I read a post like #1105, showing yet more pax being shunted through a terminal that is not fit for purpose, my resolve to continue to avoid the place is strengthened.

[rouelan]

Originally Posted by daz211

Heard a rumour Primera are expected to bring the B739max to Stansted in November, not sure how many, could we expect some more Transatlantic destinations on the departure boards.

It seems that all 7m9 are allocated for next summer (Germany, BRU, MAD).

By the way, bit stange that all new bases are on sale for next summer but not STN (neither CDG).

Do we know if Primera currently block seats on the 321Neo ? Quite a long way to EWR isnt it.

[daz211]

Originally Posted by rouelan

It seems that all 7m9 are allocated for next summer (Germany, BRU, MAD).

By the way, bit stange that all new bases are on sale for next summer but not STN (neither CDG).

Do we know if Primera currently block seats on the 321Neo ? Quite a long way to EWR isnt it.

The Neo has no problems getting to EWR, I heard the Max’s were due at STN sometime in November, but maybe for training purposes looking at the new bases, might we see some STN routes operated buy aircraft destined for BRU, MAD, FRA and the none appearance of a summer 19 schedule at STN I’m unsure but loads are very healthy so I would be surprised if we don’t see dates announced soon.

[southside bobby]

I should have added congratulations in my previous post to all airport partners/workforce & MAG themselves for producing such healthy figures recorded by STN this Summer notwithstanding the extra employment opportunities & boost to the local & wider economy.

Certain readers taking personal exception to # 1105 above need to avert future gaze as it is certain the good news posts will continue.

Thanks.

[STN406]

Emirates Figures

Another good positive post for Stansted here regarding the Emirates figures.

A/D
05/09 353/329
06/09 363/315
07/09 354/357
08/09 343/338
09/09 362/320
10/09 347/311
11/09 343/308
12/09 344/tbc

So that’s a 99.7% load factor for the arrivals over the last 8 days, and departures at 92.4% over the last 7 days. This is if my maths right.

However you look at least his these figures are just amazing and well beyond mine and a lot of other airports staff expectations.
Even the based Emirates representatives are amazed at the factors. The arriving flights have got a lot of connecting passengers on them, not sure of the percentage rate though. Still talks that Emirates are looking to add a second daily flight some point next year.
A small note on a comment above about how Stansted’s changed from its original purpose of being curb to plane. I don’t think BAA when they originally built the terminal thought it would knocking on the door of 30 million passengers.

[rouelan]

Originally Posted by daz211

The Neo has no problems getting to EWR, I heard the Max’s were due at STN sometime in November, but maybe for training purposes looking at the new bases, might we see some STN routes operated buy aircraft destined for BRU, MAD, FRA and the none appearance of a summer 19 schedule at STN I’m unsure but loads are very healthy so I would be surprised if we don’t see dates announced soon.

Thanks daz;
Indeed looks like a 7m9 will be delivered to Primera in November. Makes sense it will be used for training, possibly in STN or CDG
I did quick math with CAA stats (June) and theroritical capacity (scheduled number of flights X gauge) and was not impressed by load factors (only EWR slightly over 80%). Maybe it improved in peak period, maybe my reasoning is wrong but, by LCC standard, it is low, eg compared to Norwegian in LGW

[rouelan]

Originally Posted by STN406

Another good positive post for Stansted here regarding the Emirates figures.

The arriving flights have got a lot of connecting passengers on them, not sure of the percentage rate though.

Impressive figures !

But how is it that EK has so many connecting passengers ? Do they have any interline agreement (not to my knowing) or are they "self connecting" ?

[USERNAME_]

Originally Posted by rouelan

Thanks daz;
Indeed looks like a 7m9 will be delivered to Primera in November. Makes sense it will be used for training, possibly in STN or CDG
I did quick math with CAA stats (June) and theroritical capacity (scheduled number of flights X gauge) and was not impressed by load factors (only EWR slightly over 80%). Maybe it improved in peak period, maybe my reasoning is wrong but, by LCC standard, it is low, eg compared to Norwegian in LGW

I can vouch for the EWR flights, when the services first started they were incredibly busy but seemed to die down a little. On the contrary however, Boston and Toronto depart with full loads regularly, as does IAD.

[STN406]

Originally Posted by rouelan

Impressive figures !

But how is it that EK has so many connecting passengers ? Do they have any interline agreement (not to my knowing) or are they "self connecting" ?

What I mean is a lot of passengers are are connecting through Dubai to Stansted. E.g from Mumbai/Lahore/Perth/Singapore

[inOban]

I may be naive, but I had always assumed that nearly everyone on an Emirates flight would be connecting. Can't think why anyone would want to visit Dubai, certainly not more than once.

[Musket90]

Perhaps the freight carried in the Emirates B777 helps towards profitability of the route.

[_aax1]

Originally Posted by rouelan

Thanks daz;
Indeed looks like a 7m9 will be delivered to Primera in November. Makes sense it will be used for training, possibly in STN or CDG
I did quick math with CAA stats (June) and theroritical capacity (scheduled number of flights X gauge) and was not impressed by load factors (only EWR slightly over 80%). Maybe it improved in peak period, maybe my reasoning is wrong but, by LCC standard, it is low, eg compared to Norwegian in LGW

Have you taken into account the amount of cancellations they’ve had across all routes? Loads are pretty good in my opinion for transatlantic from a Airport that hasn’t served any of the markets concerned for years.

[davidjohnson6]

Ryanair have now released a large number of routes for booking from Stansted for the summer 2019 season. The following are not on sale as of yet - they may go on sale for S19 in the future, or this may indicate route termination

Rijeka (already closed for S18)
Dole (winter 2018/19 only)
Frankfurt Hahn
Lublin
Basel

Grenoble operates in S18 and also W18 - as a ski route perhaps this is going from year round to winter seasonal

[FRatSTN]

I'd be very surprised if some of those routes terminated, though wouldn't be out of the norm if maybe 2 or 3 of them go.

[Paulesx]

Pobeda

anyone know what’s happened to the pobeda kalingrad flights ? Looked today and no availability showing for winter 18 , LED still showing available.

Whilst on the subject of Russian carriers anyone know what happened to the proposed STN-ZIA flights from norwind ?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

I don’t think BAA when they originally built the terminal thought it would knocking on the door of 30 million

They genuinely intended STN to be London’s third airport with growth to come at the expense of a full and regulated LHR, hence planned from day one to grow to four satellites of which we are only at three today. Interesting to hear people are connecting to Emirates, who would do that connecting via STN that couldn’t do it way easier flying out of their local airport? Gotta be majority ex-UK surely? Who has a codeshare on this flight?