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Old 24th Oct 2017, 15:50
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You are so right. I was sitting in my car waiting at the lights to cross the runway end when the Capitol DC 8 took off and it's maingear smashed through the plastic fencing. I think it's only the fact that the ground dropped away to the A120 that it became airborne at all. Loads of splintered fencing and clouds of exhaust fumes!! Happy days!
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 15:55
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Planespeaking...Respect...I only witnessed some of the after effects..ie NO fence!!.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 00:03
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
Primera Air to launch London Stansted-USA flights in 2018
All things to all men, no focus (!) Decide what you're doing methinks.
BOS/JFK/YYZ are some of the competitive routes from London and are already more than well served by a wide range of established fairly well known carriers offering products to suit all budgets... I think Primera will find it near impossible to compete without making huge losses.

Personally I think that Primera would be more successful if it concentrated on operating to destinations not yet served by a low cost airline and where airlines such as AA/DL/BA have little or no competition. Destinations such like BDL, BWI, CLT, DTW and PHL
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 08:32
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From working in the terminal in retail/customer service, I see countless American/Canadian travellers everyday. Most having flown in to LHR/LGW and flying to Europe or coming from European hubs and flying out of STN on the vast network of routes it offers to Europe and beyond.
I donít have figure to support this but having seen this with my own eyes it clear to me that flights to the US are needed and should work.
In the summer holidays I remember speaking to a Canadian family who had come to London for a holiday. Having travelled to Buffalo from Canada got JetBlue to MCO and TCX from their to STN as it was cheaper, than any other option at the time.
Pick holes in this post if you want but I donít think itís fair to pick holes in Primera until they have started operating and can prove to be doing well or not doing well.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 15:03
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I'm certain STN can support flights to North America and that there is sufficient demand. Primera will be up against it though, they can easily fill the flight regardless of being unknown so long as they are appearing at the top of searches. But to be at the top of the searches you need to be the cheapest, which then brings into question whether they can make enough money or sustain such fares for long enough to become established.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 20:51
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And if they do become successful,how long before AA make an appearance???
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:48
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Going back to when AA made it's second attempt at STN we all know why they did but then EOS and Maxjet were in different markets to what Primera is offering so I don't see AA making a reappearance at STN anytime soon and why would they!
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 01:33
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Agree with the above post, AA won't come back as Primera is a LCC and majority economy, where as EOS etc were going to tap into AA's biggest money spinner. AA also seem to be reducing their JFK ops significantly.

Norwegian is probably the airline that will watch Primera most. I imagine IAG will also be watching closely in a different way with their A321LR on order.

Primera will go down well at STN I think, their schedule and aircraft size seems just right. Hopefully will open some more doors for long haul at STN.


Also, Thomson/TUI long haul has come to a end as of yesterday.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 17:44
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Originally Posted by leadinghand View Post
And if they do become successful,how long before AA make an appearance???
Hopefully MAG would be wise enough not to shout themselves in the foot by letting them
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 18:23
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As above. AA were only defending the Premium pointy end. Otherwise you’d see them chasing after Norwegian at LGW. They’re not interested in fending off economy competition.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 18:34
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Totally agree. However my point stands, now the business are separated they can refuse airlines if they can see they will damage future business.
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Old 27th Oct 2017, 01:31
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Their partner BA is doing the defending at Gatwick.
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Old 27th Oct 2017, 04:37
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Originally Posted by whitelighter View Post
Totally agree. However my point stands, now the business are separated they can refuse airlines if they can see they will damage future business.
I don't think any airport would refuse an airline especially a big name such as AA it's business at the end of the day and either way it could succeed or fail that's business to. But let's give Primera the benefit of doubt and hope they can make a success of their transatlantic operations from STN before we start considering the likes of AA entering the market again.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 11:27
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Couple of BAW fog diversions this AM.
B772 From Oakland enroute LGW.
A320 From Hamburg enroute LHR.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 12:15
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Inaugural Air Mediterranean MAR510 from ATH arrived at STN a short while ago.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 13:26
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MAG will this month celebrate the 100 millionth passenger thru the terminal since acquiring ownership in 2013.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 17:37
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If I arrive on a UK domestic flight at LHR I can proceed through Flight Connections without additional screening as I am cleared to DfT standards. When I arrive o a domestic flight at Stansted, is the netting all along the ceiling to prevent said DfT standard cleared arriving passengers from lobbing something undesirable over the wall to departing passengers? MAG again?
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 23:09
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At STN unlike LHR you will have to be processed through security again as you can not connect directly from one flight to another one.
I would imagine the netting is to stop things being thrown over yes. It is also present when going down the stairs to Satellite 3 as the stair-case goes under the wall for UK border control.
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Old 6th Nov 2017, 00:56
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
If I arrive on a UK domestic flight at LHR I can proceed through Flight Connections without additional screening as I am cleared to DfT standards. When I arrive o a domestic flight at Stansted, is the netting all along the ceiling to prevent said DfT standard cleared arriving passengers from lobbing something undesirable over the wall to departing passengers? MAG again?
This double screening happens at Gatwick as well. Was on a BA through ticket and had to come out and then go back through security again. Even though I was BA to BA in same ticket.
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Old 6th Nov 2017, 06:05
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Originally Posted by STN406 View Post
At STN unlike LHR you will have to be processed through security again as you can not connect directly from one flight to another one.
I would imagine the netting is to stop things being thrown over yes. It is also present when going down the stairs to Satellite 3 as the stair-case goes under the wall for UK border control.
Unless it's changed very recently though it has been possible to directly connect, or pass something over to someone, at domestic Sat 2. In my case Glasgow-Ibiza or Porto.

If you arrived into Sat 2 with a printed boarding card for somewhere else, would they turn you away if you tried to get into the main departures area saying "sorry, I accidentally walked to the wrong gate"?
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