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Old 11th Oct 2018, 17:36
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I canít be the only one who likes airports with lots of good shops to browse round? I hate flying to the little tin pit eu airports where all they have is a tiny cafe thatís never open and a collection of hard seats.

bearing in mind I do tend to get to the airport 2 hours prior at least because I hate rushing I find all the shops a rather pleasant distraction. The only airport I havenít enjoyed recently was Luton - but to be fair they were in the middle of seemingly taking the terminal apart so there wasnít much of anything, but even then the lounge was pretty good.

i assume the detractors are the types who turn up to flights using the just in time Model and arrive at the gate sweaty and out of breath. I choose not to do that

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Old 12th Oct 2018, 06:58
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Daz - I understand what you mean, but if you fly regularly rather than once or twice per year, duty free and arriving 2 hours before a flight start to lose their appeal. To a frequent flyer, an airport is little more than a port facility. A train station has no security screening but I can arrive just a few mins before a teain departs and be ok - why does an aiport need 90 mins or even 2 hours with just hand luggage ?

I understand the need for security but arriving at an airport one hour before departure should be enough - screening a passenger who understands the security process well and who does not present any red flags should take no more than 5 or 10 mins from arriving in a queue to being able to entering a main departure lounge.
Thinks there's a bit more to it than that, like for example when things go wrong as a result of passengers (i.eterrorists). On a Train, worst case scenario, the line(s) is blocked and a few trains are delayed or cancelled. Worst case for aviation? i only need to reference the two numbers either side of 10 to make my point there. If everyone can get peace of mind from a few extra checks, which inevitably take time then i believe its a price worth paying. It then depends on specific airports to determine how long you wait there, the likes of STN/MAN are some of the worst.

Also worth considering is the frequency and reason for travel. Most Train passengers are commuters so there's the everyday element and the need to avoid delays where possible. Aviations is much less frequent aside from a few commuters, but even then they won't be twice daily
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Plane.Silly View Post
Thinks there's a bit more to it than that, like for example when things go wrong as a result of passengers (i.eterrorists). On a Train, worst case scenario, the line(s) is blocked and a few trains are delayed or cancelled. Worst case for aviation? i only need to reference the two numbers either side of 10 to make my point there. If everyone can get peace of mind from a few extra checks, which inevitably take time then i believe its a price worth paying. It then depends on specific airports to determine how long you wait there, the likes of STN/MAN are some of the worst.

Also worth considering is the frequency and reason for travel. Most Train passengers are commuters so there's the everyday element and the need to avoid delays where possible. Aviations is much less frequent aside from a few commuters, but even then they won't be twice daily
Could I just correct you with your worst case train scenario. On 11.03.2004 193 people died and over 2000 were injured on trains in Madrid. Just over a year later 52 died in London. Those events have not led to security checks delaying passengers because it simply cannot be done.

Because there are only a handful of airports compared to train stations it is possible to carry out both identity checks and screening of everything being taken on board. I'm perfectly happy with that, but it doesn't have to equate to long queues. That's simply a matter of adequately resourcing the requirement. Of course the airports are more than happy to fast track you through the process if you're prepared to pay for the privilege. Which proves that queues are not required to provide better security, in my opinion.

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Old 12th Oct 2018, 09:42
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Fantastic growth in September...

Busiest ever September resulting in...

Pax 2,683,052 + 225,000 or + 9.2%.

Rolling 12 months now 27,448,541 or + 6.9%.

Cargo ops down v slightly.

Given that September was a full month with PRI ops then obviously growth next month will be tempered to a degree.
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 12:05
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Inaugural PBD/Pobeda service from/to LED with B738 flown today.
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 17:31
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Swissport have lost the Ryanair contract to Omniserve.

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-appoints-handler-at-london-stansted-airport/
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 20:03
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RYR ground ops at STN transfers to OmniServ operating as Blue Handling from Feb.

Unique to STN as Swissport will continue handling RYR at various other airports.
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 21:15
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Also quite unique to STN will be that all three of the main carriers will have dedicated ground handling
FR/Blue Handling
EZY/Stobart
LS/(Self handle)
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 21:50
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN View Post
Also quite unique to STN will be that all three of the main carriers will have dedicated ground handling
FR/Blue Handling
EZY/Stobart
LS/(Self handle)
Has Stobart signed exclusivity to easyJet?
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 06:34
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As part of the total overall deal were not Stobart "restricted" to EZY ops for one year?.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 07:22
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
As part of the total overall deal were not Stobart "restricted" to EZY ops for one year?.
Which will expire on 1st March 2019

Also quite unique to STN will be that all three of the main carriers will have dedicated ground handling
FR/Blue Handling
EZY/Stobart
LS/(Self handle)
So this unique situation will be in place for 1 month as Blue Handling commence on 1st Feb 2019
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 16:23
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Air Corsica/CCM confirm new weekly STN-Calvi service from 18.5.19.

Additionally Ajaccio,Bastia & Figari commence earlier in 2019,now from April.

Offering flex bookings to enable flying into one island airport & departing from another.

Full Summer`19 up to 10 flights pw.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 06:30
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Titan 320 POWK working MT1822 to Enfidha on 17-10-18, replacing Smartlynx YL-LCT which appears to have failed at TFS on MT1285 yesterday

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Old 18th Oct 2018, 09:43
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Good to see a series of 4 Royal Jordanian B788 charters planned centred around Aqaba with the first this AM.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 14:46
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Good to see a series of 4 Royal Jordanian B788 charters planned centred around Aqaba with the first this AM.
Do we know who they are for?
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 15:44
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I would hazard a guess at a cruise charter. Stopped at Aqaba on a cruise few years ago, good jumping off point to visit Petra and Wadi Rum.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 17:06
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Voyages to Antiquity (their ship is the Aegean Odyssey) so may be their flights to Aqaba for their cruises ?

Previous direct UK charters to Aqaba were with Voyages Jules Verne Holidays who used GB airways, Monarch and Astraeus
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 22:39
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Royal Jordanian Airlines operate seasonal charters to Aqaba from Copenhagen, Helsinki and Stockholm, I do wonder if the airline might consider the same to STN at some point.

Good to see Royal Jordanian Airlines operating their B788's into Stansted albeit just the four flights on behalf of the cruise company ''Voyages of Antiquity'' which if anyone isn't aware is a British company operating just the one vessel the AEGEAN ODYSSEY.
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 18:40
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LONDON STANSTED


FLIGHT CANCELLATIONS
Ibiza (IBZ) - BA2291/BA2337 cancelled between 18 May and 26 October 2019 & BA2336 cancelled between 19 May and 26 October 2019
Florence (FLR) - BA2331/BA2330 cancelled between 19 May and 20 October 2019
Palma (PMI) - BA2295/BA2294 cancelled between 4 May and 11 May 2019

Customers will be moved onto the closest suitable British Airways operated services from other London airports. Alternatively, standard customer guidelines apply

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Old 19th Oct 2018, 18:44
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LONDON STANSTED


FLIGHT CANCELLATIONS
Ibiza (IBZ) - BA2291/BA2337 cancelled between 18 May and 26 October 2019 & BA2336 cancelled between 19 May and 26 October 2019
Florence (FLR) - BA2331/BA2330 cancelled between 19 May and 20 October 2019
Palma (PMI) - BA2295/BA2294 cancelled between 4 May and 11 May 2019

Customers will be moved onto the closest suitable British Airways operated services from other London airports. Alternatively, standard customer guidelines apply

Not sure about FLR and IBZ but Palma appears to still be on sale? I presume 'Flight cancellations' doesn't mean the routes are terminating?
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